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Probably not listed as he doesn't have enough cores to offer them outright? If you have cores I'm guessing he can/will rebuild them.
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Temmett
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| Posted: Sun Feb 03, 2019 10:00 pm Post subject: Re: Reviving Bettie (69 Squareback) |
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Putting together a JBugs order:
2x Cylinder Head for 85.5mm, Dual Port
85.5mm Cast Piston & Cylinder Kit for 69mm Cranks
Engine Gasket Kit, 1300-1600, German with Flywheel Seal
Engine Hardware Kit, Complete
8x Pushrod Tube, 1300-1600cc Engines
16x Pushrod Tube Seal
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| Posted: Mon Feb 04, 2019 6:52 am Post subject: Re: Reviving Bettie (69 Squareback) |
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Tim at Volkbitz did my type 3 solex carbs. Yes he does not list them and does a fine job on them.
I was lucky to find the carbs in the classifieds...sent them to him. When I got them back bolted them on supplied fuel and spark, the engine fired right up, made the adjustments and all is fine.
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Bobnotch
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| Posted: Mon Feb 04, 2019 3:18 pm Post subject: Re: Reviving Bettie (69 Squareback) |
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Putting together a JBugs order:
2x Cylinder Head for 85.5mm, Dual Port
85.5mm Cast Piston & Cylinder Kit for 69mm Cranks
Engine Gasket Kit, 1300-1600, German with Flywheel Seal
Engine Hardware Kit, Complete
8x Pushrod Tube, 1300-1600cc Engines
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The push rod tube seals are in the complete engine gasket kit, so you don't need to order them separately.
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http://www.thesamba.com/vw/forum/viewtopic.php?t=249390 -been busy working
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Temmett
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What's up with this? The original fan shroud has a hole in it with a chrome plated plug. The donor shroud doesn't.
Also, I was looking at the generator tonight. At the very least it needs a new paint job. But what do you guys think about the oil gunk inside? Seems like it's not the best for ideal performance. Not the best pics. Sorry.
Getting closer to paint.
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| Posted: Fri Feb 15, 2019 8:02 am Post subject: Re: Reviving Bettie (69 Squareback) |
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| Good feedback for Tim at www.volksbitz.com in WA if you want them rebuilt. |
I don't see 32 PDSIT on the list of carbs he works on. |
He doesn't list them on his site but he does do them, and does a great job too:
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Bobnotch
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| Posted: Fri Feb 15, 2019 12:35 pm Post subject: Re: Reviving Bettie (69 Squareback) |
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What's up with this? The original fan shroud has a hole in it with a chrome plated plug. The donor shroud doesn't.
Also, I was looking at the generator tonight. At the very least it needs a new paint job. But what do you guys think about the oil gunk inside? Seems like it's not the best for ideal performance. Not the best pics. Sorry.
Getting closer to paint.
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The drain plug is something someone added during it's life. Maybe they thought it would help drain the oil leak.
For the generator, I'd probably spray it down with some electrical cleaner, then hose it out with some compressed air. Let it dry, then maybe do it again. Or, you could take it apart and clean it that way. Either way, you'll have to decide if you want to replace the brushes while you can get to both sides. Don't get me wrong, they're still in usable condition (above the top of the brush holders).
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| Posted: Fri Feb 15, 2019 12:59 pm Post subject: Re: Reviving Bettie (69 Squareback) |
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Take it apart in a drain pan & wash everything clean with gasoline/tooth brush & air.
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Temmett
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| Posted: Mon Feb 18, 2019 10:13 pm Post subject: Re: Reviving Bettie (69 Squareback) |
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| Temmett wrote: |
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| Good feedback for Tim at www.volksbitz.com in WA if you want them rebuilt. |
I don't see 32 PDSIT on the list of carbs he works on. |
He doesn't list them on his site but he does do them, and does a great job too:
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Wow! great work. I'm going to send them to him as soon as I can.
My son and I started a week-long push on the engine. Day one included further movement on cleaning the tin and fan shroud. In the last couple of weeks, we subjected all these parts to oven cleaner. Today we were able to finish cleaning out the cracks and crevices of the shroud.
After some grinding and sanding, we went to town making sure it was dirt free.
From there it was three coats of adhesion promoter...
Three coats of silver...
And three coats of clear coat...
We're pretty happy with the results.
We've been cleaning up the small bits that go on the shroud. I need to check ISP West for the little rubber nipple-gromet-thingy that's in one of the doors.
The tin needed more help. We hit each piece (and the mustache bar) with paint stripper and then after waiting the allotted time, started the hours-long process of scraping and scrubbing. My son did the scraping and I did the scrubbing with steel wool. I'll be removing metal slivers from my fingers for the rest of the year.
While we were at it we knocked out a few minor dents that were in the tin.
Toward the end of the day my son started cleaning up the valve covers.
Tomorrow is round two. We're hoping that by the end of the week we'll have the engine pretty much put back together and the engine bay ready to receive it. If not, at least we're going to give it one heck of a try. 
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| Posted: Tue Feb 19, 2019 7:57 am Post subject: Re: Reviving Bettie (69 Squareback) |
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We've been cleaning up the small bits that go on the shroud. I need to check ISP West for the little rubber nipple-gromet-thingy that's in one of the doors.
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That seems to just be an anti-rattle stopper; when the flap is fully open the rubber thing touches the fan housing.
You know what they remind me of, door silencers. The little gray rubber bits that go in commercial door frames to keep the doors from rattling.
If you can't find the real thing, PM me. I have a bag of about 100 of those door silencers so I'll be happy to send you a couple. 
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Wow! great work. I'm going to send them to him as soon as I can.
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Because Tim takes everything apart to re-plate (if you ask for that), when you get them back you will have to set the length of the throttle pull rods and you will also have to adjust the choke operating rods so that the throttle plate has a certain gap from the venturi with the choke closed, measured with a wire feeler gauge. The procedures & specs for both these operations are in the big blue Bentley.
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| Posted: Tue Feb 19, 2019 11:44 pm Post subject: Re: Reviving Bettie (69 Squareback) |
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Today we did a lot of tedious cleaning, but now the tin is finally all ready for paint! We got to one piece today and hit the cylinder numbers with red, per my son's request. I was bummed to see the denting on the top after the paint was down. Anyhow, it's going to be ten times better than it was. My son is happy with it and that's what matters.
We started the day by selecting which oil cooler to go with. Both looked pretty clean. I mean, they're not as bad as some I've seen in the forums. Yeah?
Does anybody know why the one on the top in the above pic has the flat panel on the far right while the bottom one doesn't? Both come from Squarebacks. We're going to swing by the hardware store tomorrow to pick up some weather stripping foam as per this thread: https://www.thesamba.com/vw/forum/viewtopic.php?t=230969&highlight=clean+oil+cooler
We also prepped the oil breather for paint.
Started to clean up the pulley
and the generator. Getting it ready for some silver/grey.
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| Posted: Wed Feb 20, 2019 1:32 pm Post subject: Re: Reviving Bettie (69 Squareback) |
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Our Square was originally FI. It was running dual Webers when we got it. We're converting it to dual Solexes. I saw on another thread a conversation about how the oil breather was different for FI and carb engines. The barn engine we picked up was running the breather in the following pic. Should we switch to it? There's a pic above of our current breather. It's the bigger model. Thoughts?
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| Posted: Wed Feb 20, 2019 2:13 pm Post subject: Re: Reviving Bettie (69 Squareback) |
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Our Square was originally FI. It was running dual Webers when we got it. We're converting it to dual Solexes. I saw on another thread a conversation about how the oil breather was different for FI and carb engines. The barn engine we picked up was running the breather in the following pic. Should we switch to it? There's a pic above of our current breather. It's the bigger model. Thoughts?
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Since both breathers are single cap, you can use either one. Pick the one you like the best, and use it.
The two cap breathers are the one you want to stay away from with a carb engine.
I hope this helps.
edit: Also before you paint the generator, double check it against the Bentley manual to test it and made sure it's still good. Now is the time to do that. 
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71 Notch ...aka Krunchy; build pics here;
http://www.thesamba.com/vw/forum/viewtopic.php?t=249390 -been busy working
64 T-34 Ghia...aka Wolfie, under construction... http://www.thesamba.com/vw/forum/viewtopic.php?t=412120
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| Posted: Fri Feb 22, 2019 10:45 am Post subject: Re: Reviving Bettie (69 Squareback) |
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Our Square was originally FI. It was running dual Webers when we got it. We're converting it to dual Solexes. I saw on another thread a conversation about how the oil breather was different for FI and carb engines. The barn engine we picked up was running the breather in the following pic. Should we switch to it? There's a pic above of our current breather. It's the bigger model. Thoughts?
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Since both breathers are single cap, you can use either one. Pick the one you like the best, and use it.
The two cap breathers are the one you want to stay away from with a carb engine.
I hope this helps.
edit: Also before you paint the generator, double check it against the Bentley manual to test it and made sure it's still good. Now is the time to do that. |
It does help. Thanks, Bobnotch.
Rain pushed out painting efforts inside. The humidity and cold didn't help things, but we set up a makeshift paint booth and got the job done. Most of the major parts have been painted.
With the painting mostly done we were able to turn our attention to putting the engine back together. We removed the old, burned up pistons and then started working on the new ones. It feels good to finally be putting this thing back together.
Now I'm off to search for a place that carries a piston ring compressor wrench.
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| Posted: Fri Feb 22, 2019 2:26 pm Post subject: Re: Reviving Bettie (69 Squareback) |
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Looks good. Just remember the arrow on the top of the pistons points toward the flywheel end. I like to put the snap ring that goes in the middle on first. Then slide the pin toward the middle. Then you have room to get the other snap ring on.
Keep in mind you can use a piece of steel band strap for a ring compressor, as you'll need to remove it with the cylinder part way on. Use an old piston to bend the strap into the shape you need, then add 2 little bends at the ends so you can squeeze the strap to close up the rings for installation.
Air cooled VW engines are kind of the opposite/backward of regular engines when it comes to installing pistons into cylinders.
I hope this helps.
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71 Notch ...aka Krunchy; build pics here;
http://www.thesamba.com/vw/forum/viewtopic.php?t=249390 -been busy working
64 T-34 Ghia...aka Wolfie, under construction... http://www.thesamba.com/vw/forum/viewtopic.php?t=412120
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