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Temmett Samba Member
Joined: April 19, 2010 Posts: 334 Location: Ferndale, CA
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Posted: Wed Apr 28, 2010 7:28 am Post subject: Reviving Bettie (69 Squareback) |
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This thread is dedicated to showing the process of reviving my 69 Squareback as well as to solicit help along the way.
First things first, wiring. The wiring is a mess and since she is going to be my daily driver I want to make sure the electrical is done right. Right now the brake lights, turn signals, and wipers don't work. Each headlight is on their own switch (she can blink!) and who knows what else I may discover is wrong. Needless to say I need to replace all the wiring. Does anyone know where I can get a complete wiring harness for a 69 Square?
_________________ 1978 Westfalia - pre-purchase walk around
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sharkskinman Lateral Lunatic
Joined: April 26, 2006 Posts: 4030 Location: Deep In My Own Psyche
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Posted: Wed Apr 28, 2010 9:20 am Post subject: |
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what is that
did someone put all that shit under the hood
ive never seen under a 69 hood
but none i have aver seen are set up like that
is that a F.I. relay under there too??
funny
"Bettie" is my cars name to
(vegas...bettie page...)
but good luck
you should be able to find all the info you need _________________ 74 Mexi Swamp Thing. 70 square volksrod (Swamp Rat)..65 C10
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Mike Fisher Samba Member
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Posted: Wed Apr 28, 2010 9:37 am Post subject: |
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ISPWest sells a complete wiring harness for all carbureted Type 3's for $319.95. If that 69 is still has the fuel injection you've got bigger problems with wiring! _________________ https://imgur.com/user/FisherSquareback/posts
69 FI/AT square Daily Driver
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Temmett Samba Member
Joined: April 19, 2010 Posts: 334 Location: Ferndale, CA
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schlomo72 Samba Member
Joined: November 06, 2008 Posts: 61 Location: White Rock, Canada
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Posted: Wed Apr 28, 2010 11:37 am Post subject: |
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umm.. that wiring box is nailed to the wall of the trunk.. awesome PO hack job _________________ Click to view image |
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idealsociety Samba Member
Joined: February 25, 2010 Posts: 131 Location: North Branch, MN
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Posted: Wed Apr 28, 2010 2:11 pm Post subject: |
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in the PO's defense, at least its a real nail and not liquid nails _________________ My other Squareback is a 322hp Fiesta ST |
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Russ Wolfe Samba Member
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Posted: Wed Apr 28, 2010 2:19 pm Post subject: |
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sharkskinman wrote: |
is that a F.I. relay under there too??
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No, that is a domestic flasher relay. _________________ Society is like stew. If you don't keep it stirred up, you end up with a lot of scum on the top!--Edward Abbey
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Temmett Samba Member
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Posted: Wed Apr 28, 2010 5:57 pm Post subject: |
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Mike Fisher wrote: |
ISPWest sells a complete wiring harness for all carbureted Type 3's for $319.95. If that 69 is still has the fuel injection you've got bigger problems with wiring! |
Is ISPWest the only game in town? Since I'm rewiring the whole car is there anything you guys would suggest I do while I'm at it? _________________ 1978 Westfalia - pre-purchase walk around
1969 Squareback http://squarebackresto.wordpress.com/ |
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Temmett Samba Member
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Mike Fisher Samba Member
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Posted: Wed Apr 28, 2010 6:25 pm Post subject: |
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the VOLKSWAGEN SERVICE MANUAL Type 3 1968-1973 by Bentley is our Bible for Type 3 owners. It will tell/show you Everything. www.books4cars.com.
P.S. The stock fuse box is under the dash, but could be in the frunk I guess?
P.P.S. That Jbugs harness doesn't include the frunk wiring! _________________ https://imgur.com/user/FisherSquareback/posts
69 FI/AT square Daily Driver
66 sunroof,67,70,71,71,71AT,72,72AT,73 Parts
two 57 oval ragtops sold
'68 Karmann Ghia sold
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Bobnotch Samba Member
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Posted: Wed Apr 28, 2010 7:25 pm Post subject: |
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It's probably the same part. However you'll probably need to find a fuse box for a type 3, if yours is in the front trunk (pics aren't loading for me). There is supposed to be a Vintage VW show in Ypsi on May 23rd (mother's day). You might want to attend, and see if you can find some parts there that you need. I don't know yet whether I'm attending, as I'm trying to finish some stuff up around here (I'm northeast of Detroit). There's also the bug In at US 131 dragway in Martin Mi on May 2nd, you might find some parts there as well. Just a thought. _________________ Bob 65 Notch S with Sunroof
71 Notch ...aka Krunchy; build pics here;
http://www.thesamba.com/vw/forum/viewtopic.php?t=249390 -been busy working
64 T-34 Ghia...aka Wolfie, under construction... http://www.thesamba.com/vw/forum/viewtopic.php?t=412120
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Temmett Samba Member
Joined: April 19, 2010 Posts: 334 Location: Ferndale, CA
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Posted: Fri May 21, 2010 4:58 pm Post subject: |
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Okay, so I bought a complete wiring harness and began the install today. I'm green so I'm taking my time. What's really sweet is that my wife is all about the resto and is helping with the process. It doesn't get any better than that! We purchased the Bentley manual and it sure is a valuable tool. Here are some pics. Since the wiring was such a mess (including a custom hack), today was primarily prep work. The only downer was discovering some rust above the driver's side seat rail. Any advice on how to treat the rust?
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Russ Wolfe Samba Member
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Bobnotch Samba Member
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Posted: Fri May 21, 2010 6:15 pm Post subject: |
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Yup, and we'll get sick of waiting, and then move on. Or we get a couple of BS pics, then the ones you're asking about will have little red X's in the box. Ask me how I know? I'm one of those dial up users.
But Russ is right, download and save the color wiring diagrams from the Samba, and blow them up and laminate them. They're easier to follow that way. _________________ Bob 65 Notch S with Sunroof
71 Notch ...aka Krunchy; build pics here;
http://www.thesamba.com/vw/forum/viewtopic.php?t=249390 -been busy working
64 T-34 Ghia...aka Wolfie, under construction... http://www.thesamba.com/vw/forum/viewtopic.php?t=412120
Tram wrote: |
"Friends are God's way of apologizing for relatives." |
Tram wrote: |
People keep confusing "restored" and "restroyed". |
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Temmett Samba Member
Joined: April 19, 2010 Posts: 334 Location: Ferndale, CA
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Posted: Thu Jun 03, 2010 10:31 pm Post subject: |
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Alright, so today I ran the wiring for the dome light. Not a big task but at least I got something done. I have been dying to wash the car since I purchased it so I took a break from the electrical and pushed her out into the driveway so that I could scrubb away. Her paint has been neglected and the Arizona sun did a number but all in all she bounced back pretty well. I'm waxing the car in the morning. To aid the process I took some time to pull off all her jewelry. I'm crossing my fingers that the shine will come back. _________________ 1978 Westfalia - pre-purchase walk around
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Temmett Samba Member
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Posted: Thu Aug 19, 2010 6:34 pm Post subject: |
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Okay, the picture sizes have all been adjusted. Thanks Everett! And now on with the restoration...
Here are some pics of the Square, post wash and wax.
Some shine!
Back to the electrical. Oh, and perhaps someone with some history knowledge can shed some light on where this steering wheel came from. It's obviously not the sweet stock set up.
Wiring harness 95% complete! The tabs on the fuse box are broken off so she is just kind of dangling, but at least she looks better than the rats nest I started with. The car also came from the PO with a dash. Installed it, but I'm not sure it's the right year for the car. It looks wierd where it meets the pillars.
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Temmett Samba Member
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Posted: Thu Aug 19, 2010 6:41 pm Post subject: |
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A few pics I did up of Bettie! With the help of a little Photoshop magic I cleaned up some minor front end blimishes. A couple things that hit me liek aslap to the face are - the one over rider looks like a snagle tooth. I removed it and am now running a blade up front. And the antenna hole needed plugged.
Plugged antenna courtesy of West Coast Metric and my pocket book.
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MLTIGGER2 Samba Member
Joined: May 01, 2006 Posts: 1154 Location: Fort Wayne, In
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Posted: Thu Aug 19, 2010 7:07 pm Post subject: |
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Russ Wolfe wrote: |
And can I make a suggestion on your photos. Reduce your resolution on your camera to less than 3 megapixel. Some people on here still use dial-up, and it takes forever to load. |
Dial up still exists? |
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MLTIGGER2 Samba Member
Joined: May 01, 2006 Posts: 1154 Location: Fort Wayne, In
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Posted: Thu Aug 19, 2010 7:10 pm Post subject: |
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That looks like an off the rack Grant GT steering wheel, very popular in the late eighties early nineties. |
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