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J Charlton Samba Member
Joined: August 24, 2007 Posts: 1546 Location: The True North Strong and Free
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Posted: Sun May 02, 2010 6:19 am Post subject: Espar diesel fuel heater basics |
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I've waded through the search function with no luck so I'll post here and tap into the collective wisdom before I tackle this one.
I just got an '88 German military commuications T3 van - 25000 Km total and it has a diesel furnace.
It came with virtually no paperwork, and I have no idea how the furnace works or is controlled. I'd like to hear from some folks who are familiar with the Espar units . I'll take some pictures and post later today
Thanks _________________ NAHT hightop availability May 18 2023 -
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DAIZEE Samba Member
Joined: January 26, 2010 Posts: 7552 Location: Greater Toronto Area Ontario West Side
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Posted: Sun May 02, 2010 6:26 am Post subject: |
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I know that this isn't much but a lot of big sailboats use espar furnaces. _________________ '09 2.5L Jetta 5 cylinder, 5 spd, super turbo, see thread in H2O Cooled Jetta, etc...
83.5 Vanagon L Riviera Model with 98 1.9L TD AAZ 4 speed Daily Driver 3 out of 4 seasons (sold)
84 Vanagon GL Wolfsburg Westy WBX 4 speed (sold) |
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Alaric.H Samba Member
Joined: March 28, 2009 Posts: 2529 Location: Sandy Springs GA
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Posted: Sun May 02, 2010 6:35 am Post subject: |
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I have one what model is yours
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Captain Pike Samba Member
Joined: December 30, 2003 Posts: 3343 Location: Talos IV, Piedmont Arizona
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Posted: Sun May 02, 2010 6:36 am Post subject: |
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Bentley _________________ LEARN TO SELF RESCUE
59 Panel bus, 1966 Single cab. 73' 181. 73 Westy. 91' H6 Vanagon 3.3L.
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syncroserge Samba Member
Joined: November 26, 2005 Posts: 553 Location: Okotos, Alberta, Canada
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Posted: Sun May 02, 2010 6:45 am Post subject: |
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If it's factory installed then it is a Webasto DBW 46. The differences with
an Espar are minimal.
I posted 2 documents on the Webasto in the Files section of the
Yahoo Group, Diesel Vanagon. If you're not already a member just
register and you'll get access.
If it is an Espar I also have Installation/Operation documents for that.
Let me know if you need them.
Where are you located? I am near Calgary and have repaired and installed
both Webasto and Espar in Vanagons so I can help if you need it. |
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J Charlton Samba Member
Joined: August 24, 2007 Posts: 1546 Location: The True North Strong and Free
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Posted: Sun May 02, 2010 7:29 am Post subject: espar |
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A few pictures - I don't know where I would look for the model number.
Thanks _________________ NAHT hightop availability May 18 2023 -
Bend Oregon - for Oregon, California- (7 tot , 3 available), Kennewick Wa (6 tot, 1 available), Small Car Performance Fife Wa. (7 tot 4 avail ), Fairbanks Alaska (1 tot 0 avail)
Future availability TBD : Springfield Mass. Staunton Va, Florida, Colorado, Grand Junction Co., SLC probably late 2024 |
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?Waldo? Samba Member
Joined: February 22, 2006 Posts: 9752 Location: Where?
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Posted: Sun May 02, 2010 9:12 am Post subject: |
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I have the same stock furnace installed in one of my vans. I have not yet tried to use it as I would like to go through it and make sure it's up to snuff first.
Syncroserge, I have looked at the files on the Diesel-Vanagon Yahoo group site and my heater does not physically look like anything represented in those files although I will admit that I have not inspected it closely. Are you sure that's the right model? When it stops snowing here today, I'll go take a closer look at the unit under my van. |
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J Charlton Samba Member
Joined: August 24, 2007 Posts: 1546 Location: The True North Strong and Free
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Posted: Sun May 02, 2010 9:55 am Post subject: snow? |
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Andrew - you're joking about the snow - right? Its about 75F and beautiful here in the Great White North.
Maybe it is a Webasto - I can't see anything on it in the way of make, model etc - but I'm probably not looking in the right place. _________________ NAHT hightop availability May 18 2023 -
Bend Oregon - for Oregon, California- (7 tot , 3 available), Kennewick Wa (6 tot, 1 available), Small Car Performance Fife Wa. (7 tot 4 avail ), Fairbanks Alaska (1 tot 0 avail)
Future availability TBD : Springfield Mass. Staunton Va, Florida, Colorado, Grand Junction Co., SLC probably late 2024 |
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?Waldo? Samba Member
Joined: February 22, 2006 Posts: 9752 Location: Where?
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Posted: Sun May 02, 2010 10:04 am Post subject: |
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Nope, the white stuff falling from the sky in May is nothing to joke about... |
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J Charlton Samba Member
Joined: August 24, 2007 Posts: 1546 Location: The True North Strong and Free
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Posted: Sun May 02, 2010 11:27 am Post subject: ?? |
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Andrew A. Libby wrote: |
Nope, the white stuff falling from the sky in May is nothing to joke about... |
Well - maybe not for you - but its pretty funny from here!! _________________ NAHT hightop availability May 18 2023 -
Bend Oregon - for Oregon, California- (7 tot , 3 available), Kennewick Wa (6 tot, 1 available), Small Car Performance Fife Wa. (7 tot 4 avail ), Fairbanks Alaska (1 tot 0 avail)
Future availability TBD : Springfield Mass. Staunton Va, Florida, Colorado, Grand Junction Co., SLC probably late 2024 |
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Vanagonner Samba Member
Joined: September 15, 2009 Posts: 506 Location: Broomfield Colorado
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Posted: Sun May 02, 2010 11:28 am Post subject: |
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J Charlton wrote: |
Andrew - you're joking about the snow - right? Its about 75F and beautiful here in the Great White North.
Maybe it is a Webasto - I can't see anything on it in the way of make, model etc - but I'm probably not looking in the right place. |
Your heater looks just like the factory optional diesel heater that is in my '82. The great Eberspacher Heizungssteuergerat. You can see the name and relay panel if you remove your glove box and look under the dashboard on the right side.
I haven't gone thru mine yet, though it is all there and wants to start. I would appreciate a write-up on the re-furb if you get to it first. _________________ Sage
'82 Westy 1.6 D
the mighty n/a |
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jarad Samba Member
Joined: May 22, 2004 Posts: 127 Location: austin, texas
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Posted: Fri May 14, 2010 7:06 am Post subject: |
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i just found out that i have the same heater on my 82 westy. too cool, if you ask me. the diesel feed line that t's off of the main fuel line isn't hooked up right now, but i hooked up the pumps and have it a quick dry run, and the timer works and the fan was blowing . i'll have to replace the fuel lines before i try to really run it. one question i do have.....it seems that heat comes out of the vent between the two driver seats, but is the other outlet(under the van) an exhaust? |
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the caveman Samba Member
Joined: August 09, 2004 Posts: 885 Location: island state of Montreal
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Posted: Fri May 14, 2010 10:00 am Post subject: |
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First off , yes the pipe underneath towards the rear is the exhaust. As you said replace the fuel lines. The next thing is to clean the connections at the glow plug and grounds that attach on the heater and body. They are probably somewhat corroded. It did all that and it lit up after a couple of minutes with tons of hot air from the foot well vents but mostly from the vent under the driver's seat and towards the rear from the passenger floor vents. However if i turn it all the way up[ knob turned completely clockwise ] there is a slight combustion [or something] smell. I took it apart last year , figuring i would find a hole or corrosion in the chamber, but it was completely air tight. I haven't put it back in yet, but while i was there i cleaned the temp sensor as well as possible. One of the wire ears broke off, but i resoldered it and covered it in a thin coat of epoxy [ originally it comes with some kind of coating so i used what i could to replicate it. I checked and it still reacts with heat so i hope it still works ]. |
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mark23 Samba Member
Joined: March 23, 2004 Posts: 57
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Posted: Thu May 20, 2010 11:10 pm Post subject: Webasto Deisel heater in a Doka |
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Just start getting into the heater under the rear bench the other day. Looks to be intact. The digital controller seems to function fine just need to connect the fuel lines ? Any suggestions ? |
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dcheek Samba Member
Joined: January 07, 2007 Posts: 511
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Posted: Thu Jun 24, 2010 10:17 am Post subject: Eberspacher DA6 Diesel Furnace Repair Manual |
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I have an '82 Diesel Vanagon with the Eberspacher DA6 Diesel furnace. I found on the Internet a detailed repair manual for both the DA6 (Diesel) and BA6 (Gasoline) which I downloaded as a PDF file. The only problem is that it's in German. Does anyone have an English version? Or, can someone translate what I have into English then post?
If anybody wants a copy of what I have just send me a message and I will E mail the PDF file. If nothing else there a numerous diagrams that would help with set-up and repair. _________________ 1961 Bug
1965 Bug
1966 Sunroof Bug
1966 Westy
1976 914 2.0
1989 911 Carrera
1981 Diesel Rabbit Pick Up
1982 Diesel Vanagon
2014 Golf (last year German mfr for NA)
2019 Jetta Gli, 35th Anniversary Edition, 6 speed |
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schmidm90 Samba Member
Joined: November 11, 2013 Posts: 12 Location: United States
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Posted: Mon Nov 11, 2013 4:50 pm Post subject: |
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Hey Guys!
I just pulled the heater out from under my 82 Westy. It was completely full of acorns and 2 dead mice... The rear blower is completely seized and I have not tried to start the fuel pumps.
the one upside is that the switch in the front seems to work.. I will do some more investigation on the rest of the wiring this week. Hopefully it does not take too much to get it running again. If you have any manuals that would help I would greatly appreciate it!! Unfortunately the Bentley manual does not have too much info on this.
Also does anyone know if parts are still available for these??
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dcheek Samba Member
Joined: January 07, 2007 Posts: 511
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Posted: Wed Nov 13, 2013 5:41 am Post subject: Manual |
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schmidm90 wrote: |
Hey Guys!
I just pulled the heater out from under my 82 Westy. It was completely full of acorns and 2 dead mice... The rear blower is completely seized and I have not tried to start the fuel pumps.
the one upside is that the switch in the front seems to work.. I will do some more investigation on the rest of the wiring this week. Hopefully it does not take too much to get it running again. If you have any manuals that would help I would greatly appreciate it!! Unfortunately the Bentley manual does not have too much info on this.
Also does anyone know if parts are still available for these??
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Sent PM _________________ 1961 Bug
1965 Bug
1966 Sunroof Bug
1966 Westy
1976 914 2.0
1989 911 Carrera
1981 Diesel Rabbit Pick Up
1982 Diesel Vanagon
2014 Golf (last year German mfr for NA)
2019 Jetta Gli, 35th Anniversary Edition, 6 speed |
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VR6zamboni Samba Member
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Posted: Sat Feb 01, 2014 10:40 pm Post subject: |
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Pretty funny to search this and pull up a thread in which the PO of my van posts:
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i just found out that i have the same heater on my 82 westy. too cool, if you ask me. the diesel feed line that t's off of the main fuel line isn't hooked up right now, but i hooked up the pumps and have it a quick dry run, and the timer works and the fan was blowing Shocked . i'll have to replace the fuel lines before i try to really run it. one question i do have.....it seems that heat comes out of the vent between the two driver seats, but is the other outlet(under the van) an exhaust?
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Funny thing too is that I was getting air in my fuel lines because of holes in the lines of the heater system. So I disconnected the T that the PO now obviously put in. Solved the air in the lines problem.
Looks like I have a good start on getting it working again! I hope.. Will see what happens and keep you posted. |
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outcaststudios Samba Member
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Vwdanwa Samba Member
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Posted: Sun Feb 17, 2019 4:38 pm Post subject: Re: Espar diesel fuel heater basics |
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Hi everyone, I just got my Da6 working, but it smells rich on low and smokes inside the van on high. It sat for over 15 years and was full of acorns.the tailpipe is also missing. Does anyone have any ideas what may be wrong? |
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