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VisPacem Samba Member
Joined: July 15, 2007 Posts: 1143 Location: Las Vegas
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Posted: Sat May 15, 2010 7:05 pm Post subject: How much should I offer ? |
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I am only jesting.
NINETY NINE CENTS ($.99) for a Vanagon 1990.(NO RESERVE !!!) Does not look trashed or anything.
I wish I were local to get it for a conversion
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/VW-Bus-Vanagon-Red-...142c#v4-35 _________________ LG aka VisPacemPB, *The* party Pooper
No Regrets (Nothing to do with Vanagons) |
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thummmper Samba Member
Joined: November 25, 2009 Posts: 2015 Location: Meadow Valley, California Republic
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Posted: Sat May 15, 2010 7:15 pm Post subject: |
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if it doesnt run offer 400--if it does offer 600 |
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Terry Kay Banned
Joined: June 22, 2003 Posts: 13331
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Posted: Sat May 15, 2010 9:40 pm Post subject: |
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$400 bucks is a fair price.--
I just picked up a clean 89 Carat with a smoked clutch for $350.00.
The only thing you need is the gonads to offer the right price. _________________ T.K. |
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RCB Samba Member
Joined: September 05, 2005 Posts: 4143 Location: San Francisco-Bay Area
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Posted: Sun May 16, 2010 7:40 am Post subject: |
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Terry Kay wrote: |
$400 bucks is a fair price.--
I just picked up a clean 89 Carat with a smoked clutch for $350.00.
The only thing you need is the gonads to offer the right price. |
Damn Terry, I thought you were pretty sharp but spending $350.00 on a frikken carrot kinda leaves me wundrun |
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Terry Kay Banned
Joined: June 22, 2003 Posts: 13331
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Posted: Sun May 16, 2010 7:54 am Post subject: |
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Here's the story--and I am at an unfair advantage here in the Midwest.
VW & Vanagons didn't even make it out of the starting gate here.
They failed miserably in sales, and nobody wants them.
I don't think anybody even knows what they are.
I've bought nice Wolfsburg's here out of dealer's lots for 3-400 dollars and I drove them to the shop--
The dealer's were glad to get rid of them because they just don't move.
And because of the rarity of them , they are far and few in between.
I mean--Maybe I see 2-3 Vanagons here in a years time--other than my own. _________________ T.K. |
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tozovr Samba Member
Joined: June 03, 2009 Posts: 547 Location: York, ME
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Posted: Sun May 16, 2010 10:42 am Post subject: |
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I'm going to swing by in the next day or so. _________________ ...like a young Julie Andrews all whacked out on PCP, kinda fun but kinda scary too
'83 1.6TD
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RicoS Samba Member
Joined: December 02, 2006 Posts: 583
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Posted: Sun May 16, 2010 8:00 pm Post subject: |
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Terry Kay wrote: |
$400 bucks is a fair price. |
Fair? Who said anything about fair? Have cash in your pocket and low-ball the seller like you're a son-of-a-bitch. If he does call you a son-of-a-bitch, all that means is you're a bit too low.
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Terry Kay Banned
Joined: June 22, 2003 Posts: 13331
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Posted: Sun May 16, 2010 10:12 pm Post subject: |
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The man's nuts--Grab Em'.
Ticket to buying anything is say nothing, hum to yourself as you walk around a vehicle, shake your head in disgust, take a note pad & write a letter to your girlfriend if you want as your scoping it out--the seller won't know what in the heck your doing--then lower the boom.
Low ball the hell outa him right from the get go--
Insults are the key to a good buying strategy--
Make sure you have his phone number, and call him twice a week, and lower your offer each time you talk to him.
If it's still there in 3 weeks you've got him.
Take a ride back over to the Van with cash in hand, and he'll be ready to take just about whatever cash you have in your hand--
And as you wave goodbye--he'll thank you for the opportunity to sell you the vehicle.
Works every time.
Dealer's are really easy.
If the vehicle has had too many bithdays sitting on the lot they'll almost kiss you to take it off of their hands--rather than have to wholesale it or auction it off--which is a big loser. _________________ T.K. |
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VisPacem Samba Member
Joined: July 15, 2007 Posts: 1143 Location: Las Vegas
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Posted: Sun May 16, 2010 11:34 pm Post subject: |
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Terry Kay wrote: |
The man's nuts--Grab Em'.
Ticket to buying anything is say nothing, hum to yourself as you walk around a vehicle, shake your head in disgust, take a note pad & write a letter to your girlfriend if you want as your scoping it out--the seller won't know what in the heck your doing--then lower the boom.
Low ball the hell outa him right from the get go--
Insults are the key to a good buying strategy--
Make sure you have his phone number, and call him twice a week, and lower your offer each time you talk to him.
If it's still there in 3 weeks you've got him.
Take a ride back over to the Van with cash in hand, and he'll be ready to take just about whatever cash you have in your hand--
And as you wave goodbye--he'll thank you for the opportunity to sell you the vehicle.
Works every time.
Dealer's are really easy.
If the vehicle has had too many bithdays sitting on the lot they'll almost kiss you to take it off of their hands--rather than have to wholesale it or auction it off--which is a big loser. |
Hi TK
How much do you want again for this front heater core ? _________________ LG aka VisPacemPB, *The* party Pooper
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Terry Kay Banned
Joined: June 22, 2003 Posts: 13331
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Posted: Sun May 16, 2010 11:43 pm Post subject: |
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300 less than Van Again, or Ken Wilfry's overpriced core.
And an engineering marvel in updated front heater cores & a chance for you to experience a bargain at that.
Uncomparibly Priceless.
And may I add, the same price as the Van-Cafe'
What's the problem with that?
You should know better than asking that crazy question.
What else do a have?
Let her fly--
Whats parts got to do with skillfully manipulating, and controling a sale of a vehicle anyway?
Or should I say; tactfully controling the sales process.
Either you have the skill--or you don't--that's all there is to it--the bottom line. _________________ T.K. |
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VisPacem Samba Member
Joined: July 15, 2007 Posts: 1143 Location: Las Vegas
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Posted: Mon May 17, 2010 1:47 am Post subject: |
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Terry Kay wrote: |
300 less than Van Again, or Ken Wilfry's overpriced core.
And an engineering marvel in updated front heater cores & a chance for you to experience a bargain at that.
Uncomparibly Priceless.
And may I add, the same price as the Van-Cafe'
What's the problem with that?
You should know better than asking that crazy question.
What else do a have?
Let her fly--
Whats parts got to do with skillfully manipulating, and controling a sale of a vehicle anyway?
Or should I say; tactfully controling the sales process.
Either you have the skill--or you don't--that's all there is to it--the bottom line. |
Hi again TK
I cannot believe you took the bait, the hook and the whole line. Cheer up old chap I was just joking. I could not resist _________________ LG aka VisPacemPB, *The* party Pooper
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insyncro Banned
Joined: March 07, 2002 Posts: 15086 Location: New York
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Posted: Mon May 17, 2010 6:40 am Post subject: |
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Sitting for 7 years with no movement or engine turned over will surely present some issues............like mice.
Bet it smells really nice inside.
Lately, I have been given vans in better condition.
Better get more pictures of the rusted side that is not shown in the auction before settling on a price.
If you are looking to keep the price down...I would not inform the entire VW community that it is available. I'm sure someone out there is willing to pay more than you for it. |
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Terry Kay Banned
Joined: June 22, 2003 Posts: 13331
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Posted: Mon May 17, 2010 8:05 am Post subject: |
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The only downfall of buying anything on E-Bay--especially a vehicle that's been sitting for 7 years is there may be a few unpleasant suprises , not mentioned or pitured on the ad---
The price is still plenty cheap, if you needing parts this would be a sweetheart--if your looking for a driver, I don't think this would be the ride to be bidding on.
Unless your looking for a project--something to consume some of your time & money. _________________ T.K. |
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tozovr Samba Member
Joined: June 03, 2009 Posts: 547 Location: York, ME
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Posted: Mon May 17, 2010 8:27 am Post subject: |
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They're about a mile from My Uncles restaurant in Meredith. Really all I want this for is the Zbed. It's worth $400 just for that and the door panels etc to me....never mind the spares I can pull and sell etc. _________________ ...like a young Julie Andrews all whacked out on PCP, kinda fun but kinda scary too
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randywebb Samba Member
Joined: February 15, 2005 Posts: 3815 Location: Greater Metropolitan Nimrod, Orygun
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Posted: Mon May 17, 2010 2:54 pm Post subject: |
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I've had people do some or all of the things above to me when I was selling a car or other items.
I just tell them to stop calling and that their behavior has ensured that I will donate it rather than sell to an obnoxious low-baller. _________________ 1986 2.1L Westy 2wd Auto Trans. |
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Terry Kay Banned
Joined: June 22, 2003 Posts: 13331
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Posted: Mon May 17, 2010 3:21 pm Post subject: |
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This shows two things;
(A) you were just screwing around when you published it for sale
(B) You have a bone headed mentality.
And I know a guy just like ths.
His motto is;
"I'll let it rot into the ground before I sell it for that"
And guess what--he's got a bunch of rotten vehicles that have turned into dust, and ain't worth a salvage price.
Smart thinking. _________________ T.K. |
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tozovr Samba Member
Joined: June 03, 2009 Posts: 547 Location: York, ME
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Posted: Mon May 17, 2010 3:24 pm Post subject: |
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At the end of the day it's worth what someone will pay. You don't ever start an Auction at $.99 and hope for $4k. _________________ ...like a young Julie Andrews all whacked out on PCP, kinda fun but kinda scary too
'83 1.6TD
DX 5 Speed
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tozovr Samba Member
Joined: June 03, 2009 Posts: 547 Location: York, ME
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Posted: Mon May 17, 2010 3:29 pm Post subject: |
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Terry Kay wrote: |
This shows two things;
(A) you were just screwing around when you published it for sale
(B) You have a bone headed mentality.
And I know a guy just like ths.
His motto is;
"I'll let it rot into the ground before I sell it for that"
And guess what--he's got a bunch of rotten vehicles that have turned into dust, and ain't worth a salvage price.
Smart thinking. |
I have a relative who is exactly like you post.
He has a '93 Jeep Grand Cherokee. It failed inspection 2 years ago for brakes. It just sits in front of his garage. Now there is an issue with the transfercase he never mentioned. At first it was "I think it has a bad CV..."
I used to build Rovers, jeeps and Cruisers into back country expedition rigs. Every 4 months he calls.
Him: "uh, hey, what do you think I could get for the ZJ?"
Me: How many miles and did you fix the Tcase yet?
"...uh, well about 260k, but she runs real strong...and the Tcase is still messed yup..I think it's just the viscous coupling..."
"well replacing just the VC is about 24 times the work of just swapping the TC....if the VC went the rest isn't far behind...$800 on a good day..."
"PFFFFFT! HA! I'll Keep it for under $2k....I mean Dude, it's an Orvis..."
"yeah, you're right, a broken '93 ZJ with 260k is worth more...enjoy your yard ornament...." _________________ ...like a young Julie Andrews all whacked out on PCP, kinda fun but kinda scary too
'83 1.6TD
DX 5 Speed
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randywebb Samba Member
Joined: February 15, 2005 Posts: 3815 Location: Greater Metropolitan Nimrod, Orygun
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Posted: Mon May 17, 2010 3:50 pm Post subject: |
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Terry Kay wrote: |
This shows ONE thing:
(c) I was willing to wait for a decent offer from a non-azzhole
and was happy with the price I got -- it was a fair price
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Smart thinking. |
fixed your post
I also am willing to pay somebody a fair price when i buy something, rather than repeatedly harassing them with low ball offers.
YMMV. _________________ 1986 2.1L Westy 2wd Auto Trans. |
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tozovr Samba Member
Joined: June 03, 2009 Posts: 547 Location: York, ME
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Posted: Mon May 17, 2010 4:40 pm Post subject: |
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randywebb wrote: |
Terry Kay wrote: |
This shows ONE thing:
(c) I was willing to wait for a decent offer from a non-azzhole
and was happy with the price I got -- it was a fair price
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Smart thinking. |
fixed your post
I also am willing to pay somebody a fair price when i buy something, rather than repeatedly harassing them with low ball offers.
YMMV. |
To play Devil's Advocate here...What is a low ball offer on the Vanagon in the Ebay here?
165k, non running, bad coolant pipes, frozen brakes, rust and damage to the body?
One is better shape just went for $600 near me (barely running, but running). One with a NH State inspection, with less mileage, new O2 and and just a few rust spots just Changed hands in Kittery, about 10 minutes south of me for $1800.
There Seems to be two three tips to the Vanagon world (not including the $35k Go Westy Dream machines LOL0
Beat on, barely maintained Vanagons Waiting for a rescue that go around $1k-$2k all day long, then the well preserved and intelligently modified examples that sit over $5k. And then the parts rigs.
I'm not sure what you see as a daily driver in your area, but in my not so humble opinion, this unit is a Parts rig. _________________ ...like a young Julie Andrews all whacked out on PCP, kinda fun but kinda scary too
'83 1.6TD
DX 5 Speed
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www.sinisterbikes.com |
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