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whynotvw
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 Posted: Tue May 18, 2010 10:04 am Post subject: do i need spacers on these clk wheels |
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i just bought clk 320 wheels. i want to use 225 75 16 BFG TA tires on my syncro, do i need spacers?
the wheel size is 16 inch with ET37 offset
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Franklinstower
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| Posted: Tue May 18, 2010 10:14 am Post subject: |
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Post your rim size and ET.
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Jon_slider
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I asked tristar eric that same question, since he uses CLK's on his DOKA
He used a 1/4" spacer in the rear only, and just to be able to fit his center cap. He has 225x75x16 Goodyear Wrangler MT/R tires. |
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whynotvw
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buildyourown
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Pretty sure you can get the on without.
The caps are a challenge though. |
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syncrodoka
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They don't need spacers to fit on, I have a set on my syncro van. Like buildyourown said the rear caps are the reason that eric used spacers.
With that tire size you will need to figure out what to do with the rear trailing arms- Modified stock or syncro 16 replica via Burley. Don't forget about the regearing that you will need to do also.
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whynotvw
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They don't need spacers to fit on, I have a set on my syncro van. Like buildyourown said the rear caps are the reason that eric used spacers.
With that tire size you will need to figure out what to do with the rear trailing arms- Modified stock or syncro 16 replica via Burley. Don't forget about the regearing that you will need to do also.
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syncrodoka
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| The PO of the rims did that. I got them cheap so I was happy since I don't really like the stock bling of that rim. |
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Funny... I just thought that was dirt.
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| Posted: Wed May 19, 2010 8:22 am Post subject: Re: do i need spacers on these clk wheels |
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| whynotvw wrote: |
i just bought clk 320 wheels. i want to use 225 75 16 BFG TA tires on my syncro, do i need spacers?
the wheel size is 16 inch with ET37 offset |
With that wheel and tire combination, not only will you need to use lift springs, but you will need to trim back the wheel wells or the tires will do it for you.
Erics vehicle has 16" arches, or was cut back to mount the 16" arches.
Great wheel, great tire size.
Eric center cap is sweet.
Make sure to get the proper lugs from Loggy, open or closed. |
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j_dirge
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| Posted: Wed May 19, 2010 9:01 am Post subject: Re: do i need spacers on these clk wheels |
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With that wheel and tire combination, not only will you need to use lift springs, but you will need to trim back the wheel wells or the tires will do it for you.
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I have the same size wheels (the winter steelies), same size but different model tire BFG tire. 29.1" dia.. 2WD.
I believe (but don't have the exact dimensions) the tread block section on the BFG AT is a bit wider than mine on the corners.
Mine fit fine (with adjustments) on the original Westy GL 20yr springs. And they fit fin on newer Syncro.org springs. I am not seeing how a spring lift helps this particular tire fitment.. since the tire did not top out and hit the inside wheel well sheet metal.. Or I simply did not compress the springs far enough to make that happen?
I can see how lift springs can minimize a rubbing problem where it occurs on modest compression.. say.. thru turns...
But the tires are still gonna rub on enough compression, regardless. Won't they?
They rear tires make contact at the inside corner of the 14" trailing arm.
That is true regardless the spring lift.
You can grind out 2-3mm to provide *just enough* room.
But thos tires did not hit fender lips or inside top of wheel well in my fitment.
The fronts (in my case) required either rolling the fender lip a bit or trimming. I've rolled mine front and back lower corners and they no longer make contact. But at best it is 1mm clearance.
(I reallize the Syncro geometry is likely different).
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insyncro
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All of the tires I have used in the size 225/75/16 have been at least 29.5 in diameter, some larger. My MTRs are 29.7.
I use backspacing with rear disc brakes to eliminate any need to mess with the trailing arm.
I prefer a different track width in the rear for my vans too. |
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All of the tires I have used in the size 225/75/16 have been at least 29.5 in diameter, some larger. My MTRs are 29.7.
I use backspacing with rear disc brakes to eliminate any need to mess with the trailing arm.
I prefer a different track width in the rear for my vans too. |
Do those 29.7s ever hit the upper wheel well inside sheetmetal? Do they bottom out? Front or rear?
Am wondering how much room there is between top of well and top of tire.
Whats the max tire size that fits in there to bumper stop counting for full travel regardless spring used? (and ignoring fender lip and swing arm limitations)
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those are straight line runs with light weight race cars for only 1/4mile at a time..
not pushing a loaded brick up a mountain pass with a family of 4+ inside expecting to have an event free vacation..
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i found some of these for sale for $300.
i know they are very light but are they as strong as a steel wheel?
should i jump on them? |
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whynotvw
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| toomanyveedubs wrote: |
i found some of these for sale for $300.
i know they are very light but are they as strong as a steel wheel?
should i jump on them? |
i say go for it. these wheels are hard to come by at those kind of prices.
that's what i paid, i bought them last week and i'm very happy with these wheels, eventually i want to powder coat them black. very light, which is good for brakes, suspension and etc... loogy said the wheels are very strong because they are forged.
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| toomanyveedubs wrote: |
i found some of these for sale for $300.
i know they are very light but are they as strong as a steel wheel?
should i jump on them? |
Yes they are strong, but like the off-roaders always say - you can't hammer them back into shape trailside. But then again, when was the last time you beat your rim back into shape, and how effective was that reshaping?
Yes you should jump on them. Otherwise please send the link to a Samba member who will use them.
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levi
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A lot of us have these clk rims.
Very light, and strong.
As for price, seems like there's almost always a set somewhere for 150-200, but when you add in shipping.... if you can get them local to you for 300, that's reasonable.
Here's a set in Az for 150
http://tucson.craigslist.org/pts/1749646039.html
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are all these CLK wheels 16"?
or are there some that are 15"?
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Jon_slider
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heres BFG AT 245x75x16 tires, heavily modified trailing arms, modified wheels wells. Front asle to fender lip, 19", rear 20.25". 11" ground clearance at the skidplate.
CLK rims with 10mm spacer in the rear to explore centercap options. Door rubs, but can be pushed all the way if desired.
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