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19typethree67 Samba Member
Joined: April 18, 2007 Posts: 351 Location: Grand Rapids, MI
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Posted: Sat May 22, 2010 11:05 am Post subject: Can't get into 1st, 2nd or Reverse |
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So I've been reading quite a few posts, but I'm a little foggy on my issue. I have tried adjusting the plate at the base of the shifter but no luck.
Is the hockey stick in the wrong spot or is it a coupler issue? |
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squaretobehip Samba Member
Joined: August 23, 2004 Posts: 3670 Location: San Jose, CA
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Posted: Sat May 22, 2010 11:34 am Post subject: |
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did you mess with anything? try and change your shift rod coupler? did it just all of a sudden not wanna shift? we need more info. _________________ 1963 Notchback - Ruby Red
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19typethree67 Samba Member
Joined: April 18, 2007 Posts: 351 Location: Grand Rapids, MI
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Posted: Sat May 22, 2010 11:41 am Post subject: |
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69SquareGuy wrote: |
did you mess with anything? try and change your shift rod coupler? did it just all of a sudden not wanna shift? we need more info. |
Yeah, sorry bout that.
I've been restoring my fastback for the past 3 years. I installed the transmission probably 1.5 years ago after I had it rebuilt.
Finally got the car started for the first time in 4 years a week ago and I ran it around the neighborhood. Now it's only going into 3rd and 4th gear. |
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Erik G Samba Member
Joined: October 16, 2002 Posts: 13247 Location: Tejas!
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Posted: Sat May 22, 2010 2:15 pm Post subject: |
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wrong hockey stick. sounds like you have a bug one, you need one specific to the type 3. not sure if you can mod the one you have, or have to pull it all out and replace. I've done the pull and replace on a friends car. with buddies, couple hours _________________ Stop dead photo links! Post your photos to The Samba Gallery! |
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19typethree67 Samba Member
Joined: April 18, 2007 Posts: 351 Location: Grand Rapids, MI
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Posted: Sat May 22, 2010 2:21 pm Post subject: |
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Erik G wrote: |
wrong hockey stick. sounds like you have a bug one, you need one specific to the type 3. not sure if you can mod the one you have, or have to pull it all out and replace. I've done the pull and replace on a friends car. with buddies, couple hours |
No I'm afraid it can't be. Unless the PO put in a T1 hokey stick, but I highly doubt it. I used the same one that I took out originally. And I don't have any others lying around.
In the Bentley it said to "make sure that the selector shafts are in neutral position when attaching the nose-cose." I didn't really know how to do this when I put it together (should have asked you guys) - could this be the probelem. Is the hockey-stick in the wrong position? |
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lawn ninja Samba Member
Joined: January 02, 2006 Posts: 1009 Location: Round Rock, TX
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Posted: Sat May 22, 2010 5:12 pm Post subject: |
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Did you have the shifter uninstalled? Assming everything worked properly when you took it apart and you reassembled it with the same parts you should start with the most simple thing and work your way forward. If you pulled the shifter out of the car and just put it back in try flipping the reverse lock out plate, it would have these same effects. Also a bad adjustment of the lock out plate could do something like this. IF that isn't it look into it deeper, but work from simple fixes forward.... _________________ Jason
My 64 1500 S Notchback project here
My 58 sedan project here
My 63 Ghia here |
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Bobnotch Samba Member
Joined: July 06, 2003 Posts: 22358 Location: Kimball, Mi
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Posted: Sat May 22, 2010 8:26 pm Post subject: |
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Yeah, what above said. The lock out plate should have 2 tabs on it, with the longer of the 2 on the passenger side, and both of them up. _________________ Bob 65 Notch S with Sunroof
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http://www.thesamba.com/vw/forum/viewtopic.php?t=249390 -been busy working
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19typethree67 Samba Member
Joined: April 18, 2007 Posts: 351 Location: Grand Rapids, MI
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Posted: Sun May 23, 2010 7:05 am Post subject: |
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Thanks guys, I did check the lock out plate, no go.
So I pulled the engine and move the tranny off the nose cone last night. Got a good look at the hockey stick but I'm still a bit confused on where to put it.
Read through the forum and sort of picked a spot I thought was right but now the shifter rod is is so far over that I can't get the shifter installed.
Is the coupler adjustable at all so I could move the shifter rod into more of the middle? |
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squaretobehip Samba Member
Joined: August 23, 2004 Posts: 3670 Location: San Jose, CA
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Posted: Sun May 23, 2010 8:42 am Post subject: |
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do you have the shift rod bushing? i know when i replaced mine a few weeks ago, it took a little time adjusting the shifter itself. i had to just take the car out on the street, adjust the shifter, and keep trying to drive it. if it didn't shift right, i would try again. the sweet spot was up and to the left it seemed. _________________ 1963 Notchback - Ruby Red
1963 Squareback - Pearl White
1965 Squareback - Baltic Blue
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19typethree67 Samba Member
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Posted: Sun May 23, 2010 9:21 am Post subject: |
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69SquareGuy wrote: |
do you have the shift rod bushing? i know when i replaced mine a few weeks ago, it took a little time adjusting the shifter itself. i had to just take the car out on the street, adjust the shifter, and keep trying to drive it. if it didn't shift right, i would try again. the sweet spot was up and to the left it seemed. |
What does the bushing look like? I couldn't find it on ISPWest's website.
Thanks! |
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Russ Wolfe Samba Member
Joined: October 08, 2004 Posts: 25187 Location: Central Iowa
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KTPhil Samba Member
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19typethree67 Samba Member
Joined: April 18, 2007 Posts: 351 Location: Grand Rapids, MI
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Posted: Sun May 23, 2010 8:19 pm Post subject: |
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Weird eh, you guys seen "Fringe"? Maybe he's from the other world. I wonder if he looks just like me?
Thanks for the link on the bushing Russ, I'll be ordering that one up!
Just to double check here, which spot does the selector fork go?
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Russ Wolfe Samba Member
Joined: October 08, 2004 Posts: 25187 Location: Central Iowa
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Posted: Sun May 23, 2010 9:38 pm Post subject: |
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The slots in the 3 shift rails are lined up, when the transmission is in neutral.
The hockey stick then goes in that slot.
When you move the shifter from side to side, the hockey stick rotates, and selects which of the 3 slots it goes in. Then why you move the shift lever fore and aft, it slides the rail that is selected, in and out.
There are supposed to be detent balls, that will only let you move one rail at a time. _________________ Society is like stew. If you don't keep it stirred up, you end up with a lot of scum on the top!--Edward Abbey
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19typethree67 Samba Member
Joined: April 18, 2007 Posts: 351 Location: Grand Rapids, MI
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Posted: Mon May 24, 2010 7:49 pm Post subject: |
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Russ Wolfe wrote: |
The slots in the 3 shift rails are lined up, when the transmission is in neutral.
The hockey stick then goes in that slot.
When you move the shifter from side to side, the hockey stick rotates, and selects which of the 3 slots it goes in. Then why you move the shift lever fore and aft, it slides the rail that is selected, in and out.
There are supposed to be detent balls, that will only let you move one rail at a time. |
So where exactly would it go? Between the top and middle shift rails? From the post that I got this pic from, the bottom is the reverse right? And then 3rd-4th in the middle and 1st-2nd on top?
On a different topic. I'm writing this in the maternity ward, my wife delivered our second child today, little girl named Grayce! |
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19typethree67 Samba Member
Joined: April 18, 2007 Posts: 351 Location: Grand Rapids, MI
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Posted: Tue May 25, 2010 6:13 pm Post subject: |
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*Bump*
I'm not trying to beat a dead horse here but I want to make sure I get the "hockey stick" in the correct spot.
Does it go between the top and middle shift rails, at approx. 9:00 o'clock? Is that neutral? I don't want to have to pull the tranny apart again.
Thanks for any help |
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