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PostPosted: Sun May 30, 2010 9:58 am    Post subject: Reference for tail light placement 56-61 Reply with quote

The following diagram is from "Der Motor Test," July 1958, showing the rear view drawing of a European bumper 58 sedan with relative dimensions for the location if the tail light housings. Note that "leer" means "empty" and the units are in millimeters. Thought the drawing might be useful for the ovals and the squares as this is common to both.

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PostPosted: Sun May 30, 2010 10:56 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

The height of my snowflakes is mismatched, thank you very much for this..
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PostPosted: Mon May 31, 2010 10:55 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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heres a diff view on the subject Wink
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PostPosted: Fri Jun 04, 2010 8:55 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I prefer the second one, otherwise my lights would end up way to high, the reference to the ground can only be used on a bug sitting at stock height with out any rear end sag. Good luck finding one of those, except on a fresh resto.
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PostPosted: Fri Jun 04, 2010 9:46 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

You can use the distance from the bottom of the popes nose to the centre of the snowflake - it is obviously 153mm (679-526) and independent of the height of the car.
Just need a stringline, spirit level & tape measure - and three hands.
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PostPosted: Sat Jun 05, 2010 6:53 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Good point, I'll work on the 3rd hand thing Laughing
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PostPosted: Sat Jun 05, 2010 2:27 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

for those that think there tail lights are going to be to high using diagram one its simple,
measure the height of your number plate light off the ground because it is very rare that the holes in your bonnet have been filled and need redrilling, then subtract the difference from the height that is shown on the drawing, this is the difference then subtract that from all other height measurements and away you go.
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PostPosted: Sun Jun 06, 2010 10:31 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Another related thread and specs.

http://www.thesamba.com/vw/forum/viewtopic.php?t=354891

Still no absolute proof.
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PostPosted: Thu Aug 31, 2017 8:18 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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heres a diff view on the subject Wink


Trying to get my 57 tail light position right. Couldn't get it right and found out my fender measurement joining rear apron is out. My apron is original. Could 57 fenders have different dimension?


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PostPosted: Fri Sep 01, 2017 2:31 pm    Post subject: Re: Reference for tail light placement 56-61 Reply with quote

Might be aftermarket fenders.
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PostPosted: Fri Sep 01, 2017 5:52 pm    Post subject: Re: Reference for tail light placement 56-61 Reply with quote

Strange, I just measured two original fenders I have, the euro is off a 58 and the non ribbed is from a 60. Putting the hook from the tape measure and holding it flat against the curve of the fender I get 13.5 for both.


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PostPosted: Sat Sep 02, 2017 9:05 am    Post subject: Re: Reference for tail light placement 56-61 Reply with quote

Possible my fenders are aftermarket. Thinking of my rear apron is very likely to be original to 57, measurement of fenders adjoining to apron should be correct.
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PostPosted: Sat Sep 02, 2017 9:08 am    Post subject: Re: Reference for tail light placement 56-61 Reply with quote

AlteWagen wrote:
Strange, I just measured two original fenders I have, the euro is off a 58 and the non ribbed is from a 60. Putting the hook from the tape measure and holding it flat against the curve of the fender I get 13.5 for both.


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Could you get 15" and 6 3/4" as per the picture? If not, what are yours?
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PostPosted: Sat Sep 02, 2017 4:01 pm    Post subject: Re: Reference for tail light placement 56-61 Reply with quote

Here are some measurements from my 57 Bug original fender.

1. I measured 13 5/8 inches from the bottom to the bend
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2. This one is an attempt to get a square alignment off the apron line but that line is not square so it's averaged.
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3. Edge of overrider support hole to wire hole.
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4. Edge of overrider support hole to top mounting hole.
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5. Square alignment from rear quarter panel line.
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PostPosted: Wed Sep 06, 2017 8:53 pm    Post subject: Re: Reference for tail light placement 56-61 Reply with quote

I finally found the problem after taking the fenders and fitted to body at body work shop. The bend on fenders do not fit perfectly to the body with some gaps. I measured the rear apron from bottom to where the bend should sit and get exactly 13 5/8 inches.

Thanks for everyone who respond to my post and i am happy to get the right position. The picture guide in this FAQ is pretty helpful.
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