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danfromsyr
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an innovative AC company from Quebec, proof of global warming if there isn't one.
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| That exhaust pipe, although leading most of the hot air outside through your window, still evaporates some heat inside your room. |
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danfromsyr
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I just bought a http://www.walmart.com/ip/Royal-Sovereign-ARP-9009TL-Portable-Air-Conditioner-9-000-BTU/10983097
I chose this model since the dimensions seem to fit my seldom used rear closet. I haven't finished yet, but the plan is to install a return air grill on the closet side, open the closet door for air discharge, and run the exhaust hose to the engine compartment with a backdraft damper. I'm in the process of removing the closet now, so I'll let you know how it goes. |
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depps74
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If someone would come up with a portable 12V ac unit that could be powered by a solar set up while people were camping, I would by stock in that company because they would sell the hell out of those things.
Any engineering type people know if it could even be done? |
https://www.zerobreeze.com/products/zero-breeze-ma...NwQAvD_BwE |
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danfromsyr
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If someone would come up with a portable 12V ac unit that could be powered by a solar set up while people were camping, I would by stock in that company because they would sell the hell out of those things.
Any engineering type people know if it could even be done? |
https://www.zerobreeze.com/products/zero-breeze-ma...NwQAvD_BwE |
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clamay
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https://www.amazon.com/EENOUR-Portable-Conditioner...amp;sr=8-9
Has anyone purchased or used or seen one of these portable air conditioners?
I was thinking of restoring the air conditioning in my '91 carat but then I ran across this unit and thought that it might be better because it will work when the van is running or not. Any thoughts?
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vwhammer
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All of those types of portable AC systems are a gimmic at best and certainly not worth $1000
The way I see it, the only real way to get electric AC in a van is by reconfiguring some home window units, buying one of the small mini-split systems or this setup https://undermountac.com/
All of these will require a pretty significant battery bank to be run for any length of time without a generator or the van running.
and even with the van running you will likely need an alternator upgrade.
I have installed one of the Undermount AC systems in a Sprinter and it works pretty well but the condenser fans mounted outside are super loud.
I spoke to the company about it and they just told me it is what it is but I think the fans could be downsized for some quieter units.
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Abscate
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The next poster of magical AC gets hit over the head with a shovel.
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Tobias Duncan
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| Posted: Sun May 29, 2022 2:33 pm Post subject: Re: Portable Air Conditioner Unit |
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At least this one isnt using magical math
It consumes 850 watts and produces 2900 BTUs of cooling which are real world numbers.
Its up to you to power the thing.
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clamay
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Did I misread the advertisement? I read that it uses 210 watts of power not 850. 210 watts is consistent with 5000 btu window units that use 410 watts. This unit doesn't seem mystical or magical it is just a smaller more portable air conditioner than others I have seen. 2900 BTUs should be enough to keep the inside of a vanagon cool. And yes, $1000 is a lot to pay but I could easily spend that restoring my old vanagon system.
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Abscate
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| Did I misread the advertisement? I read that it uses 210 watts of power not 850. 210 watts is consistent with 5000 btu window units that use 410 watts. This unit doesn't seem mystical or magical it is just a smaller more portable air conditioner than others I have seen. 2900 BTUs should be enough to keep the inside of a vanagon cool. And yes, $1000 is a lot to pay but I could easily spend that restoring my old vanagon system. |
A 5000 btu/hr AC won’t cool a Vanagon in motion and will be feeble rest
You would need a group 24 battery for each 30 minutes of desired operation
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82westyrabbit
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| Just for a point of reference I was in Dallas the last few summers with out AC in my van. My only vehicle when I was there. I hung a 5000 btu AC unit out the driver’s side middle window and ran a generator to power it. Just like everyone says it just won’t keep the van cool driving on a hot day. Sometimes better than nothing sometimes not. It worked fine when camping. I tried bigger portable AC units and those didn’t work at all. I am back in Massachusetts now and don’t care about AC. I prefer driving with the windows (that’s just me). There is just to much heat that comes in the windshield. John |
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| Just for a point of reference I was in Dallas the last few summers with out AC in my van. My only vehicle when I was there. I hung a 5000 btu AC unit out the driver’s side middle window and ran a generator to power it. Just like everyone says it just won’t keep the van cool driving on a hot day. Sometimes better than nothing sometimes not. It worked fine when camping. I tried bigger portable AC units and those didn’t work at all. I am back in Massachusetts now and don’t care about AC. I prefer driving with the windows (that’s just me). There is just to much heat that comes in the windshield. John |
This is exactly why the popular front A/C mod known as the Small Car one simply struggles to do any more than the front cab.
If you’ve ever pulled a rear Evaporator coil it will quickly become obvious way it struggles.
That VW rear Evaporator coil is HUGE!!
Far bigger than most (if not all) residential window units.
That Evaporator is then paired with an equally large Condenser in front of the radiator.
Add to that the teenie tiny compressor installed in a window unit.
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I tried a portable 8000btu unit but it couldnt keep the camper cool. I am now looking @ a 14,000btu portable unit
DeLonghi PACEX390UVcare-6AL PACEX290UVcare-6AL WH 14000 BTU Portable Air Conditioner, Dehumidifier, Fan & UV-Carelight, White https://www.amazon.com/dp/B08XGK4ZTV/ref=cm_sw_r_awdo_1HK70CHSKP1CT7F0XPV0
https://www.delonghi.com/en-us/pac-ex390uvcare-700...CARE-6ALWH
Now this thing says it pulls 11.9amps @110vac which is ok for my 2k inverter & i have 200ah worth of batteries + solar ,so while im driving load should be ok given altenator should be able handle load with ease. Battery should last around 15 hrs.
Or a roof top unit
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jimf909 
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| Posted: Mon May 30, 2022 8:55 pm Post subject: Re: Portable Air Conditioner Unit |
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Now this thing says it pulls 11.9amps @110vac which is ok for my 2k inverter & i have 200ah worth of batteries + solar ,so while im driving load should be ok given altenator should be able handle load with ease. Battery should last around 15 hrs.
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11.9 amps x 110VAC = 1,309 watts / 12 volts = 109 amps which means the 200ah of batteries will run the a/c unit less than 2 hours. If those are FLA running the a/c unit 1 hour will deplete their SOC to less than 50% shortening the life of your battery bank.
https://www.rvtravel.com/inverters-101-amps-and-volts/
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