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PostPosted: Fri Jun 04, 2010 7:07 pm    Post subject: I am having a hard time finding 1st. Reply with quote

So... My shift linkage bushings are getting worn out and I cant seem to get it into 1st easily. I usually end up in third and have to end up putting it in 2nd to start from a stop. I called and talked to the guys at GoWesty and they said the forked peice in the shift rod that goes from the shift lever to the rod wear out the bushings and that there is no repair kit. They did say however that what they do is use a couple of peices of shrink wrap and layer it over each other to create the imitation bushings.

Anyone hear of this or has anyone done this fix?

Thanks... I need some help.

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PostPosted: Fri Jun 04, 2010 7:37 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

WTF do they say??

There is no parts unavailable for the whole shifter bushings,selector etc....

I don'tunderstand what is that forked piece that you are talking about,is it this?

Go here and tell us which part causes you problem http://server5.gs-shop.de/200/cgi-bin/shop.dll?SESSIONID=0659545497503132&AnbieterID=4357

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PostPosted: Fri Jun 04, 2010 7:39 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

They are talking about the front shift rod. You have to drop the spare out of the front carrier and unbolt the square box in the middle to check it's condition.
They have been NLA for some time.


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PostPosted: Fri Jun 04, 2010 7:40 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I've never done that particular fix but I would check the ball and socket at the very end of the linkage where it turns to go up into the tranny. Those wear out and can cause sloppy shifting.

http://www.gowesty.com/ec_view_details.php?id=3368&category_id=&category_parent_id=
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PostPosted: Fri Jun 04, 2010 7:44 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Just noticed that GW is out of stock:

http://www.van-cafe.com/home/van/page_251_1246/shift_linkage_repair_kit.html
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PostPosted: Fri Jun 04, 2010 7:48 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Read the info at the bottom of this page- http://www.van-cafe.com/home/van/smartlist_784/shift_components.html
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PostPosted: Fri Jun 04, 2010 8:09 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yup, just r&r'd the selector/ball and socket on mine. Made all the difference in the world. Also, the plastic pieces were gone on the bottom of my shift lever(the pieces in that square box above the spare). I cut some 1/2" pvc pipe about an inch long and slid it over the tabs where the plastic once was. Greased the hell out of it. So far so good.......That also made a big difference in the ability to find a gear.
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PostPosted: Fri Jun 04, 2010 8:09 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

They are NLA. Van Cafe rallied and had some made from scratch at a machine shop. That's why GoWesty doesn't have any.
Thanks Van Cafe.
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PostPosted: Fri Jun 04, 2010 10:53 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I know what he's talking about.
The two nylon nubs at the very top of the shift fork below the shift lever inside of the shifter box are worn out.
They all do it , and is a problem right now--because there is no real fix.
Yet.

Check out the rear ball & socket at the trans--see if there is any slop.
Then take a look at thewwo shift shaft bushings & plates---if they are sloppy you'll lose a bunch of shift selectivity.
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PostPosted: Sat Jun 05, 2010 4:42 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thanks for the tips. I need to replace the shift rod that includes the little rubics cube fork like box and all of its bushings, thats a given... I will try to make do in the mean time by ordering some of the other items you recommend.

I hate being the cliche Van guy that cant get his rig moving from a light. What an embarrassment.

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PostPosted: Sat Jun 05, 2010 8:22 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I had brass brazed on where the nylon nubs used to be and filed the brass to the same shape and size as the nylon nubs.
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PostPosted: Sat Jun 05, 2010 11:10 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Before you go replacing everything you might try to adjust the shift rod to the tranny linkage. My first was very hard to get into and I loosened the clamp and repositioned the shift rod and all has been perfect.
May take a few try cause you loose reverse if you go too far.
Just tweak it a bit..it wants to twist out of adjustment on it's own when loose.
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PostPosted: Sat Jun 05, 2010 8:17 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Any good pictures of adjustment or "fix its"?
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PostPosted: Sat Jun 05, 2010 9:41 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I just repaired the plastic tabs on the fork by using JB wield.

- take measurements of what is left of the tabs, if anything. In my case I had nothing to measure.
- grind off any remaining parts of the plastic tabs and then clean the tips of the fork with acetone. If you don't clean the metal the JB won't stick.
- put the front shift linkage in a vise upside down so the fork is facing downwards.
- get a block of modeling clay and position it under the fork so that the fork leaves an indentation in the clay.
- use a very small screwdriver to scoop out the clay at each indentation so you end up with 2 negative impressions of the plastic tabs. Because I didn't have any tabs to measure I scooped out 1/4 inch on the sides of the indentations and dug down about an inch. When in doubt increase the dimensions and then file it back once the JB dries.
- fill both holes in the clay with JB and then position the upside down fork (still in the vise) into the 2 holes filled with JB.
- Once the JB dries you peal off the clay and you end up with 2 tabs of JB on the fork, which you clean up with a file.

Final product is now installed and working well.
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PostPosted: Sat Jun 05, 2010 9:45 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Good idea, I think my issues are in the rear though.

I lowered my engine with the linkage connected....what should I do ? Embarassed the ball isn't making 1/2 contact when moving foward or reverse.
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PostPosted: Sat Jun 05, 2010 11:45 pm    Post subject: Re: I am having a hard time finding 1st. Reply with quote

The Salt wrote:
So... My shift linkage bushings are getting worn out and I cant seem to get it into 1st easily. I usually end up in third and have to end up putting it in 2nd to start from a stop. I called and talked to the guys at GoWesty and they said the forked peice in the shift rod that goes from the shift lever to the rod wear out the bushings and that there is no repair kit. They did say however that what they do is use a couple of peices of shrink wrap and layer it over each other to create the imitation bushings.

Anyone hear of this or has anyone done this fix?

Thanks... I need some help.

Matt


If your problem is the front shift rod tabs looking like this

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instead of this;

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this is about the best temporary fix I've seen yet
http://www.thesamba.com/vw/forum/viewtopic.php?t=389708&highlight=shift+rod
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PostPosted: Sun Jun 06, 2010 1:47 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

The JB trick sounds OK---my question is --how long is going to last?
The rubber hose ticket also also sounds like a decent fix--but is it going to be a long term repair?

So far the brazing sounds like the best long term repair---it's soft, it'll wear a little, ,and it should last the longest on the shifter ears.

More experimentation is needed here ---
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PostPosted: Mon Jun 07, 2010 8:53 pm    Post subject: Re: I am having a hard time finding 1st. Reply with quote

levi wrote:
The Salt wrote:
So... My shift linkage bushings are getting worn out and I cant seem to get it into 1st easily. I usually end up in third and have to end up putting it in 2nd to start from a stop. I called and talked to the guys at GoWesty and they said the forked peice in the shift rod that goes from the shift lever to the rod wear out the bushings and that there is no repair kit. They did say however that what they do is use a couple of peices of shrink wrap and layer it over each other to create the imitation bushings.

Anyone hear of this or has anyone done this fix?

Thanks... I need some help.

Matt


If your problem is the front shift rod tabs looking like this

Image may have been reduced in size. Click image to view fullscreen.


instead of this;

Image may have been reduced in size. Click image to view fullscreen.


this is about the best temporary fix I've seen yet
http://www.thesamba.com/vw/forum/viewtopic.php?t=389708&highlight=shift+rod


Wow! looks good!

So If I were going to adjust the shifting... where would I do this from and how? I thought the new plastics in place would solve everything. Confused
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PostPosted: Mon Jun 07, 2010 9:15 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Bentley 34.4
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PostPosted: Mon Jun 07, 2010 9:58 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

syncrodoka wrote:
Good luck


yer gonna need it Laughing

adjusting the rod is a true test of patience. clearly mark where you started before you start adjusting.
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