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Eric&Barb
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Location: Olympia Wash Rinse & Repeat
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 Posted: Sat Mar 19, 2016 6:24 pm Post subject: Re: Hard to close rear engine lid after installing new seal? |
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| VirtuallyReal wrote: |
Unfortunately, that one is out of stock.
Busdepot offers this one:
http://www.busdepot.com/261827711
Someone already mentioned this one works good... What do you think? |
From the small image it looks like the best one we have found. Does not hurt to inquire with Ronnie at Bustoration to see if he is getting more of that seal in soon if you are planning to get more from him.
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skills@eurocarsplus
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Joined: January 01, 2007
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Location: sticksville, ct.
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| Posted: Sat Mar 19, 2016 7:39 pm Post subject: Re: Hard to close rear engine lid after installing new seal? |
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| Eric&Barb wrote: |
More than likely this is the one you want.
http://www.bustoration.com/Engine-Lid-Seal-55-71-FOAM-B6_p_872.html
Made of a closed foam rubber and so has lots of give. Not as good as the part from the factory, but as close as we have been able to find.
That other one WW sells is only a small step up from stuffing garden hose pieces in there..... |
indeed. I have the WW one on both my 71's and the lid stands proud on the sides and bottom with the hinges adjusted to the "all the way out" position.
without the WW seal in all the gaps are mint and the lid sits flush... it's so bad with the WW seal it looks like I dropped the ball on assembly.
may have to try the foam 1 piece deal. anyone have a photo of it installed? I wonder if it hooks into the channel correctly
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wcfvw69 
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Joined: June 10, 2004
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Location: Arizona
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| Posted: Sat Mar 19, 2016 8:17 pm Post subject: Re: Hard to close rear engine lid after installing new seal? |
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| skills@eurocarsplus wrote: |
| Eric&Barb wrote: |
More than likely this is the one you want.
http://www.bustoration.com/Engine-Lid-Seal-55-71-FOAM-B6_p_872.html
Made of a closed foam rubber and so has lots of give. Not as good as the part from the factory, but as close as we have been able to find.
That other one WW sells is only a small step up from stuffing garden hose pieces in there..... |
indeed. I have the WW one on both my 71's and the lid stands proud on the sides and bottom with the hinges adjusted to the "all the way out" position.
without the WW seal in all the gaps are mint and the lid sits flush... it's so bad with the WW seal it looks like I dropped the ball on assembly.
may have to try the foam 1 piece deal. anyone have a photo of it installed? I wonder if it hooks into the channel correctly |
When Colin (amskeptic)was here last year on Colin's itinerant tour, I had a chance to drive his 70' bus and look it over. When I opened Colin's engine lid, not only was it silky smooth, but I went to close it out of curiosity. It closed perfectly and snug. The gaps were perfect. His engine lid seal was the one piece style of rubber that was similar to the German door rubber. I asked Colin where he bought it and he said it was the good seal from Bus Depot. It looks like Airhead Parts sells the same one as well.
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Eric&Barb
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Location: Olympia Wash Rinse & Repeat
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| Posted: Sat Mar 19, 2016 9:02 pm Post subject: Re: Hard to close rear engine lid after installing new seal? |
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| skills@eurocarsplus wrote: |
| I wonder if it hooks into the channel correctly |
It does not quite hook in like the factory part, but it does stick into that channel so as to not pop out too easily. You could put some glue to stick it to the body, we have not needed that over the years though.
Only complaint we have with it is the new seal is that the lower horizontal part of it tends to collect water/oil and small junk against the engine lid lower edge.
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'64cal lookdub
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| Posted: Sat Mar 19, 2016 9:41 pm Post subject: Re: Hard to close rear engine lid after installing new seal? |
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| VirtuallyReal wrote: |
Unfortunately, that one is out of stock.
Busdepot offers this one:
http://www.busdepot.com/261827711
Someone already mentioned this one works good... What do you think? |
From the small image it looks like the best one we have found. Does not hurt to inquire with Ronnie at Bustoration to see if he is getting more of that seal in soon if you are planning to get more from him. |
I asked him last fall and he told me the manufacturer stopped making this seal, so as far as I know they are no longer available. The grey foam seal that is. |
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'64cal lookdub
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| Posted: Sat Mar 19, 2016 9:44 pm Post subject: Re: Hard to close rear engine lid after installing new seal? |
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| wcfvw69 wrote: |
When Colin (amskeptic)was here last year on Colin's itinerant tour, I had a chance to drive his 70' bus and look it over. When I opened Colin's engine lid, not only was it silky smooth, but I went to close it out of curiosity. It closed perfectly and snug. The gaps were perfect. His engine lid seal was the one piece style of rubber that was similar to the German door rubber. I asked Colin where he bought it and he said it was the good seal from Bus Depot. It looks like Airhead Parts sells the same one as well. |
I think I might give the Bus Depot one a try, did he cut the corners as well before he installed it? |
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wcfvw69
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Location: Arizona
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| Posted: Sat Mar 19, 2016 11:48 pm Post subject: Re: Hard to close rear engine lid after installing new seal? |
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| '64cal lookdub wrote: |
| wcfvw69 wrote: |
When Colin (amskeptic)was here last year on Colin's itinerant tour, I had a chance to drive his 70' bus and look it over. When I opened Colin's engine lid, not only was it silky smooth, but I went to close it out of curiosity. It closed perfectly and snug. The gaps were perfect. His engine lid seal was the one piece style of rubber that was similar to the German door rubber. I asked Colin where he bought it and he said it was the good seal from Bus Depot. It looks like Airhead Parts sells the same one as well. |
I think I might give the Bus Depot one a try, did he cut the corners as well before he installed it? |
I don't know if Colin had to do any cutting on it. Maybe he'll see this thread and comment on it.
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skills@eurocarsplus
Samba Peckerhead
Joined: January 01, 2007
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Location: sticksville, ct.
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| Posted: Sun Mar 20, 2016 6:36 am Post subject: Re: Hard to close rear engine lid after installing new seal? |
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interesting...
having to glue the seals in would be a deal breaker for me. I have no glue on any of my seals and have no issues.
this is how bad the WW seal is
the 1 piece foam deal is cheap money. God knows I have blown more money on crap than the cost of the seal. I will buy one this week and report back
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my reason for switching to subaru is my german car was turning chinese so i said fuck it and went japanese....... |
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| Thanks for the correction. I used to be a nice guy, then I ruined it by exposing myself to the public. |
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| Also the fact that people are agreeing with Skills, it's a turn of events for samba history |
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nlorntson
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BarryL
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| Posted: Sun Mar 20, 2016 9:09 am Post subject: Re: Hard to close rear engine lid after installing new seal? |
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| nlorntson wrote: |
| Anyone tried the seal from West Coast Metric? |
Yes. Works perfect. |
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skills@eurocarsplus
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| Posted: Wed Mar 23, 2016 7:32 am Post subject: Re: Hard to close rear engine lid after installing new seal? |
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just ordered the 1 piece foam seal. will update when it shows up. for 20 clams, what could possibly go wrong?
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my reason for switching to subaru is my german car was turning chinese so i said fuck it and went japanese....... |
| Jake Raby wrote: |
| Thanks for the correction. I used to be a nice guy, then I ruined it by exposing myself to the public. |
| Brian wrote: |
| Also the fact that people are agreeing with Skills, it's a turn of events for samba history |
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nlorntson
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| Posted: Wed Mar 23, 2016 8:11 am Post subject: Re: Hard to close rear engine lid after installing new seal? |
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| skills@eurocarsplus wrote: |
| just ordered the 1 piece foam seal. |
From where? |
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skills@eurocarsplus
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| Posted: Wed Mar 23, 2016 8:43 am Post subject: Re: Hard to close rear engine lid after installing new seal? |
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flea bay. I figure its all Brazilian junk anyway. for 18.00 with free shipping who cares?
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my reason for switching to subaru is my german car was turning chinese so i said fuck it and went japanese....... |
| Jake Raby wrote: |
| Thanks for the correction. I used to be a nice guy, then I ruined it by exposing myself to the public. |
| Brian wrote: |
| Also the fact that people are agreeing with Skills, it's a turn of events for samba history |
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'64cal lookdub
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| Posted: Wed Mar 23, 2016 9:54 am Post subject: Re: Hard to close rear engine lid after installing new seal? |
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| Nice, interested to see how it works out. I'm guessing its the one Bus Depot sells. I was going to try that one or the WCM one. |
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glideking
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Eric&Barb
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| Posted: Wed Mar 23, 2016 11:14 am Post subject: Re: Hard to close rear engine lid after installing new seal? |
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Even at $30.00 each those are a great seal and looks made just like factory. Hoping the engine lid seal is same factory design and quality is high for both.
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localboy
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| Posted: Wed Mar 23, 2016 5:50 pm Post subject: Re: Hard to close rear engine lid after installing new seal? |
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I just bought the engine seal from CIP1. Part # C16-261-711. I'll post some pics. Not installed but it seemed soft and pliable and matched the profile etc of the stock one on our '66. It's not the foam one, though and it is one piece; not four like in the photo. They were out of the German one so I took a chance.
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VirtuallyReal
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| Posted: Mon Mar 28, 2016 6:58 pm Post subject: Re: Hard to close rear engine lid after installing new seal? |
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I also bought the CiP1 engine seal (same one Kurt bought), should be shipped tomorrow.
I'll report how it goes. *fingers crossed*
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VirtuallyReal
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| Posted: Wed Mar 30, 2016 12:35 pm Post subject: Re: Hard to close rear engine lid after installing new seal? |
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The seal is here:
Looks well made, and definitely softer than the WW one.
Here you can see the groove for the lip on the engine compartment.
Im now heading to the shop where my bus is at; expect updates on the fitting tonight.
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hoss
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| Posted: Wed Mar 30, 2016 1:29 pm Post subject: Re: Hard to close rear engine lid after installing new seal? |
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I ordered the foam style off of ebay also.. I have 2 busses I need to install them on.. my 15 window had the WW style seal and the decklid pushing out. I pulled it out and will install the foam style in the next couple of days and post photos.
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