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PostPosted: Mon Jun 21, 2010 11:27 am    Post subject: Stove igniter mod anyone? Reply with quote

I was just wondering if anyone here has added an electronic or piezo igniter to light their stove burners.
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PostPosted: Mon Jun 21, 2010 11:40 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I was just looking at this last weekend! I saw an electric ignitor kit for a BBQ at the hardware store, only $17. I'll post some pics if I go ahead with it.
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PostPosted: Mon Jun 21, 2010 11:49 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

IIRC, Colman makes one that just adds on to most anything
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PostPosted: Mon Jun 21, 2010 12:28 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thanks guys,
I've seen the Coleman & a Webber replacement igniter.
Looks like it would be a fairly simple mod, but I was hoping to see some photos from folks of igniter, switch or plunger placement etc. before I actually started drilling holes.
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PostPosted: Mon Jun 21, 2010 2:56 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Not to be a broken record, but "Use the Search." Just in the last week or two this very topic came up also:

http://www.thesamba.com/vw/forum/viewtopic.php?t=415233

Just search on: ignitor. SIMPLE!

(Ya, ya, I know, sometimes, rarely, I need some spoon feeding, but, in general it is far far faster to search a bit then to wait days on responses....)
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PostPosted: Mon Jun 21, 2010 5:41 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

that thread is for a fridge isn't it?
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PostPosted: Mon Jun 21, 2010 6:08 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

r39o,
Like purplepeopleeater said, (and I saw it) that thread had to do with the fridge ignither.
What I was wondering was if anyone had installed igniters for their stoves.
Seems like it would be a medium-easy, non-essential, but convenient upgrade.
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PostPosted: Mon Jun 21, 2010 7:04 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Sounds like a non-essential, though cool and convenient mod to add. Being that I hail from the "equal parts charcoal and lighter fluid to start the BBQ" crowd, how would a gizmo like this look? How would you wire it up? Found a few you-tubes of 9V battery igniters, but that seems a bit hokey to me. Give me 12v or nothin'!
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PostPosted: Mon Jun 21, 2010 7:41 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

This is what we use to start the burner (maybe everybody does?):

http://www.acehardwareoutlet.com/ProductDetails.aspx?SKU=89137

Uses flints to spark the burner. They also make a short version for mounting to a 'Coleman' lantern, perhaps adaptable to a Westy cooker:

http://www.acehardwareoutlet.com/productDetails.aspx?SKU=82061
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PostPosted: Mon Jun 21, 2010 8:05 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I suggest one of these, a modern day flint and steel:

Light My Fire Firesteel Scout
http://www.rei.com/product/737335

- Never dies due to lack of fuel
- No moving parts
- Works when wet
- Lasts far longer than a long butane / propane lighter

I use them for the van and for backpacking stoves, highly recommended.

Back to the original topic, yes, you could add some sort of striker, but with something like this for $12, why bother?

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PostPosted: Mon Jun 21, 2010 8:32 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

"....but with something like this for $12, why bother?"

Uh, well because Coghlan's 503A Lantern Lighter is $2.99 and the Weber 7510 Igniter Kit is $10.99 maybe Wink
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PostPosted: Mon Jun 21, 2010 10:05 pm    Post subject: Simple, Functional Reply with quote

I just use a little piezoelectric igniter that I bought ages ago from CampMor, notably, this one:

http://www.campmor.com/outdoor/gear/Product___23061

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No flints, no fuel, I can usually light both burners with the first or second click. I couldn't manage to light the Coleman Black Cat heater with it, but that's a very different system and a special case.

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PostPosted: Mon Jun 21, 2010 10:10 pm    Post subject: Re: Simple, Functional Reply with quote

msinabottle wrote:
I just use a little piezoelectric igniter that I bought ages ago from CampMor, notably, this one:

http://www.campmor.com/outdoor/gear/Product___23061

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No flints, no fuel, I can usually light both burners with the first or second click. I couldn't manage to light the Coleman Black Cat heater with it, but that's a very different system and a special case.

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PostPosted: Mon Jun 21, 2010 10:42 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

DWC wrote:
r39o,
Like purplepeopleeater said, (and I saw it) that thread had to do with the fridge ignither.
What I was wondering was if anyone had installed igniters for their stoves.
Seems like it would be a medium-easy, non-essential, but convenient upgrade.
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OOOPPPSSS....

I should read the whole sentence next time, eh?

Sorry, I was on a roll and, well....ya, sorry.

Now back to our regular content.
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PostPosted: Mon Jun 21, 2010 10:51 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

This is the unit I was thinking of. It uses an AA battery - 12V is ideal but those units are expensive.

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http://www.acehardwareoutlet.com/productDetails.aspx?SKU=998060655
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PostPosted: Mon Jun 21, 2010 10:54 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

You can always scavenge one unit from a propane BBQ
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PostPosted: Tue Jun 22, 2010 6:30 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

presslab wrote:
This is the unit I was thinking of. It uses an AA battery - 12V is ideal but those units are expensive.


I have wanted to do the same thing for a while, but I'm hesitant to drilla hole(s) in the stainless steel of the stove under/by the burner as I don't want it to leak water when I use the stove grate for a drying rack after my meal.

JB weld is supposed to be good to 600* F. I assume that the white ceramic bit of the ignitor doesn't conduct heat all that well so where it passed through the stovetop would most likely not hit 600*+ and hopefully JB would stick to it well.

The sparkers are pretty cool, I just don't like having another thing to getout/put away, fall off the counter, rattle around, etc...
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PostPosted: Tue Jun 22, 2010 8:02 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

presslab wrote:
This is the unit I was thinking of. It uses an AA battery - 12V is ideal but those units are expensive.

<pic of lighter set>
http://www.acehardwareoutlet.com/productDetails.aspx?SKU=998060655


I did this in mine, with (I'm pretty sure) that exact kit. It works great.

It doesn't leak if you drill the holes cleanly and put a small dab of high-temp RTV around the ignitors.

I put the ignition button through the stove faceplate on the far left. The AA cell is replaced from the front by unscrewing the rubber and plastic button, so you won't have to take apart the stove when the cell dies. I did this two years ago, and it's still on the first AA cell, so cell longevity is not really a big deal.

This mod is a bit of a PITA because there's not a lot of room to work inside the stove, but it is oh, SO worth it. No more digging for matches/lighters/flint and tinder Laughing

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PostPosted: Tue Jun 22, 2010 8:08 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

My first thought was to adapt an old fridge igniter for the purpose.

You know, to keep it stock! Kind of.
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PostPosted: Tue Jun 22, 2010 8:48 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

squeegee_boy wrote:
presslab wrote:
This is the unit I was thinking of. It uses an AA battery - 12V is ideal but those units are expensive.

<pic of lighter set>
http://www.acehardwareoutlet.com/productDetails.aspx?SKU=998060655


I did this in mine, with (I'm pretty sure) that exact kit. It works great.

It doesn't leak if you drill the holes cleanly and put a small dab of high-temp RTV around the ignitors.

I put the ignition button through the stove faceplate on the far left. The AA cell is replaced from the front by unscrewing the rubber and plastic button, so you won't have to take apart the stove when the cell dies. I did this two years ago, and it's still on the first AA cell, so cell longevity is not really a big deal.

This mod is a bit of a PITA because there's not a lot of room to work inside the stove, but it is oh, SO worth it. No more digging for matches/lighters/flint and tinder Laughing

Robyn





oh we need pictures sir!

thanks
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