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EricBo142 Samba Member
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Posted: Sat Apr 13, 2024 1:27 am Post subject: Clutch cable |
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I have a Allison Daytona I just got the car few months ago and was wondering what size cables are generally used? I saw dune buggy warwhouse.has 74 inch for shorter cars and have seen some say to use wire clamps to shorten. If the wire is 3mm would I get a 3mm clamp? Looks like 2 sections of the wire goes into clamps so would it be 6 mm clamps? I just want one thing to go my way with this car because the previous owner seems like he got his high from being able to rig something rather than just doing it correct.in the same amount of time. |
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Roadbeater Samba Member
Joined: January 15, 2011 Posts: 54 Location: Central Ohio
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Posted: Sat Apr 13, 2024 5:32 am Post subject: Re: Clutch cable |
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I just used two wire rope clamps on mine, been that way for twenty years. _________________ 69 Fastback |
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ppilotmike Samba Member
Joined: December 10, 2019 Posts: 21 Location: Oscoda Mi
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Posted: Sat Apr 13, 2024 5:33 am Post subject: Re: Clutch cable |
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This is how I shortened mine. I don’t remember if the clamps were for 3/16” or 1/4” cable.
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clonebug Samba Member
Joined: January 29, 2005 Posts: 4028 Location: NW Washington
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Posted: Sat Apr 13, 2024 6:19 am Post subject: Re: Clutch cable |
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I've used the 3 clamps for 20 years also. They have never slipped.
The original used cable I shortened lasted about fifteen years before it broke. I then bought a new standard cable and shortened that one and it's been working great even pulling on a Stage II pressure plate.
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Dale M. Samba Member
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Posted: Sat Apr 13, 2024 7:23 am Post subject: Re: Clutch cable |
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Another option is to measure exact length you need and have one custom made....
https://push-pull.com/
Personally I did not even cut cable I just put a loop in it and use a couple of clamps to lock it into correct length... Been that way for something like 22 years now... _________________ “Fear The Government That Wants To Take Your Guns" - Thomas Jefferson.
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Tom_Kathleen Samba Member
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Posted: Sat Apr 13, 2024 10:04 am Post subject: Re: Clutch cable |
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Aren't Allison buggies full length?? If they are, just use the stock length cable. Tom _________________ Manxter #16, 1968 Meyers Manx & Kick-Out SS #16 (WIP)
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EVfun Samba Member
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Posted: Sat Apr 13, 2024 10:59 am Post subject: Re: Clutch cable |
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On my first buggy I used a copper split bolts to shorten the cable. I put a second one on next to the first one, just for good measure. My current buggy has a hydraulic clutch. _________________
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EricBo142 Samba Member
Joined: February 02, 2024 Posts: 16
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Posted: Sun Apr 14, 2024 2:42 am Post subject: Re: Clutch cable |
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Tom_Kathleen wrote: |
Aren't Allison buggies full length?? If they are, just use the stock length cable. Tom |
They make 2. One has an extended rear seating area but that may not matter. I just said it in case the question arose to which one lol. |
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EricBo142 Samba Member
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Posted: Sun Apr 14, 2024 2:44 am Post subject: Re: Clutch cable |
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ppilotmike wrote: |
This is how I shortened mine. I don’t remember if the clamps were for 3/16” or 1/4” cable.
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Okay so you cut the cable then attached the clamps. I saw some looping Thanks good to know that works too |
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oprn Samba Member
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Posted: Sun Apr 14, 2024 5:41 am Post subject: Re: Clutch cable |
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Dale M. wrote: |
Personally I did not even cut cable I just put a loop in it and use a couple of clamps to lock it into correct length... Been that way for something like 22 years now... |
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rugblaster Samba Member
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Posted: Sun Apr 14, 2024 9:22 am Post subject: Re: Clutch cable |
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I'm in the calf roper loop camp.
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Dale M. Samba Member
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Posted: Sun Apr 14, 2024 10:35 am Post subject: Re: Clutch cable |
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rugblaster wrote: |
I'm in the calf roper loop camp.
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Exactly what I did for mine.... _________________ “Fear The Government That Wants To Take Your Guns" - Thomas Jefferson.
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jspbtown Samba Member
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Posted: Sun Apr 14, 2024 2:44 pm Post subject: Re: Clutch cable |
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Swageless fitting. Easy and adjustable. |
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516swg Samba Member
Joined: February 28, 2024 Posts: 45 Location: Idaho
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Posted: Tue Apr 16, 2024 6:01 pm Post subject: Re: Clutch cable |
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My buggy had the same loop from 1968. I'm replacing it and cutting the new cable to length, dipping the end in Flux and hot solder to prevent frays, and using one of the kits, someone makes the cable shortening kit. But yeah. There's a lot of different ways to make a cup of coffee.
I saw the loop, obviously works, and I guess you could consult Pi and he would tell you the exact diameter of your loop after the 14-1/4" shortening job. |
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slayer61 Samba Member
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Posted: Wed Apr 17, 2024 6:56 am Post subject: Re: Clutch cable |
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EVfun wrote: |
On my first buggy I used a copper split bolts to shorten the cable. I put a second one on next to the first one, just for good measure. My current buggy has a hydraulic clutch. |
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Misclecarsonly Samba Member
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Posted: Thu Apr 18, 2024 5:03 pm Post subject: Re: Clutch cable |
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EricBo142 wrote: |
ppilotmike wrote: |
This is how I shortened mine. I don’t remember if the clamps were for 3/16” or 1/4” cable.
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Okay so you cut the cable then attached the clamps. I saw some looping Thanks good to know that works too |
I know that cable doesn’t carry much load but you should never “ saddle a dead horse “ as it can reduce the cables capacity by up to 50%. Also if saddled correctly , it negates the rope from slipping. |
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MrGoodtunes Samba Member
Joined: May 14, 2012 Posts: 852 Location: South Florida
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Posted: Fri Apr 19, 2024 8:18 am Post subject: Re: Clutch cable |
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I used an eye-bolt with a bevel-neck bolt from an old generator to wrap some garage opener cable (thinner and more flexible than VW clutch cable) around a 1/8" thimble/clips set:
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