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eurodub
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look at what my split was! was a mess, with rear window clip, doors, hoods fenders dash and trunk panel upgraded. it took me a while to get all the panels but i did it! and in East Europe, where split parts are virtually non existent, and on a very tight budget..
that vert to me looks like a small fortune in disguise. has the doors and shell from what i see. has the lateral windows and a roof mechanism.
being only one of the ~150 that survived, it even deserves a good shape split sedan as donor!
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Egypt Classic Cars
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I think the body for a split notice that the front door windows one piece, it may be a split body on newer model chassis,
as the cars in Egypt registered upon chassis numbers sometimes for old cars which lost its registration they put it on newer chassis to get registered with the old body, anyway I asked the seller as he is not from Cairo to send for me the chassis number and this may solve our questions,
BTW, he sell it as 1961 model
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Bruce
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I bet the body is a split convert. In a land where they love to do late model "upgrades", it makes no sense that they would graft a split dash into a 70s car.
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sleepywiesel
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it would be awesome to fit that body to the '49 pan! 
a new project for the "Grundmen" 
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Egypt Classic Cars
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Hi All
I got the chassis # 3754096 that means Feb 1961
Now the car should be split convertible body on 1961 pan and chassis is that correct?
In this case what is the best solution to rescue this car? and what it is worth?
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Simon uk
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Wow that is cool, you will have to see if you can get a body number, although that might tip off the seller that it is an early car. Do we have production numbers for kabriolets from this era?
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sleepywiesel
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Wow that is cool, you will have to see if you can get a body number, although that might tip off the seller that it is an early car. Do we have production numbers for kabriolets from this era?
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exact!
and more pics would be good. The Question is: how many parts had been removed and what is still original.
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| Simon uk wrote: |
Wow that is cool, you will have to see if you can get a body number, although that might tip off the seller that it is an early car. Do we have production numbers for kabriolets from this era?
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Here you have production numbers and VIN info:
http://www.typ15.com/uk/html/registry.php
Can't believe they did this to such a rare car.  How come the last decades most of the (VW) world is aware of the rarety of old VWs but not in Egypt  |
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Egypt Classic Cars
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| well the question now is there is a difference in salon than convertible chassis? and is it possible to search for a split salon chassis and install the split body convertible on it? |
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Egypt Classic Cars
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| they do that for the reason as I mention before that if a car lost its documentation (registration) i. e we could not find the original owner due to death or maybe he just left the car without selling it officially to another person in this case no one else can register the car, the only way then to use another registered chassis and put the old body on it |
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| It has raised lip doors (term) .......need a lot more pics to see what else is left ? huh dont ya all think. |
How would you fit the 68-on inner door handle as shown on the drivers side door to a real split door? Seems like you would have to do a bunch of carving on the door plus of course the later mechanism, latches, etc. |
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Simon uk
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| Egypt Classic Cars wrote: |
| well the question now is there is a difference in salon than convertible chassis? and is it possible to search for a split salon chassis and install the split body convertible on it? |
yes, the chassis should be the same for a saloon and kabriolet, lots of other coachbuilt cars also used the vw chassis with no modifications, and added their own body as well. There is a thread on here about what we think is a 1949 chassis which has just been found in the US. |
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| nlorntson wrote: |
How would you fit the 68-on inner door handle as shown on the drivers side door to a real split door? Seems like you would have to do a bunch of carving on the door plus of course the later mechanism, latches, etc. |
Seems the outer doorhandles are later too!
A lot of effort has been put into this car to get that modern look. It will take a brave person to take this car on, and do it justice.
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This one needs Christians help...
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johnshenry 
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Yeah I know what you mean. There is no hacking going on it he USA I can tell you.................
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D. Haviland
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Those 'upgrades' could have been done in the early 70s when only a few people knew they were worth something.
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tstracy39
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never ceases to amaze me the kind of hackage that gets perpetrated on these old vws in distant corners of the world. |
Yeah I know what you mean. There is no hacking going on it he USA I can tell you................. |
Lots of VW hackage in the USA, but I have yet to see one example with the kind of hacks that were once common overseas, IE split beetle -split rear windows+parts from later beetle=new car. I do see the opposite equation frequently enough though.
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| 5000$ tops. What we have here is the tub and doors from a split vert. +some other parts. You would need a 10 k donor split to make a proper car again, plus an awful lot of work. Also the original serial is long gone, it will never be a properly identified car again. ever. On the other hand, the price of these early verts, that barely do 60 and overheat on the freeway, are now in the same range as a 63 split window corvette, not to mention these magnificent 40s GM convertibles. Come on! Even though I love beetles, I'd take a 40s Buick convertible any day over a rusted out early Karmann. |
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