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PostPosted: Tue Jul 06, 2010 8:24 pm    Post subject: Stainless steel heater hoses Reply with quote

Anyone installed the "german stainless steel heater hoses" ?

I got tired of fighting the stock paper/aluminum type and ordered
the SS ones. I even tried the orange "aircraft" type with the coiled copper wire inside--major hassles trying to install these down under the apron tin to the heater boxes. I've seen these on ac Porsches and even Lycoming boxer helicopter engines. ( Now THERE'S one heck of a flat 4!!! 5,000 cc!!)
I digress...........

Of course I don't have the stock fittings under the apron to the heater boxes. ( I rarely see anyone who actually has this put together correctly).
So the hoses go thru the flat apron down to the heater box inlet. ( shows this on the Samba Classified ad for SS hoses ). Bought 2, as it says.

Setup is Type 1 2110 in my '69 Westy with dual ceramic coated
exhaust and heater boxes.

Just wanted to know if anyone has experience good or bad?

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PostPosted: Tue Jul 06, 2010 8:51 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Take some pics I would love to see this when your done, also where did you get them, might order some for my '70
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PostPosted: Wed Jul 07, 2010 6:06 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I have done this. Here are a pics of them installed. I like these very much as they do not deteriorate at all. No more crushed hose.

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PostPosted: Wed Jul 07, 2010 7:10 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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No more crushed hose.


Are they more stout? At least, sturdier than the foil ones?
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PostPosted: Wed Jul 07, 2010 7:36 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

static wrote:
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No more crushed hose.


Are they more stout? At least, sturdier than the foil ones?


They are much more stout. It would take a significant effort to dent them.
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PostPosted: Wed Jul 07, 2010 7:37 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

You can get those mentioned fittings made. I have a pair from A 1. It is the only way any of those hoses will really fit on so that they can be removed and reinstalled.
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PostPosted: Wed Jul 07, 2010 7:41 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I actually did mine in two pieces each side so that removal was not hard. I used the stock coupler as you can see in my top pic (earlier post) on the left side.
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PostPosted: Wed Jul 07, 2010 7:53 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

you should use a cut-off wheel to cut it.
if that tells you anything Wink
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PostPosted: Wed Jul 07, 2010 7:55 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I put them on this engine
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I like them and would use them again
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PostPosted: Wed Jul 07, 2010 7:58 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I replaced my tubes with some extra hot air tubing I had left over from my Airtronic install. It's available for cheap from Espar. I got mine through thermo king. They are still a metalic wrapped paper like product, but they are very very sturdy and were an excellent replacement choice. I suspect they will hold up nicely for years to come. The diameter was a perfect fit.
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PostPosted: Wed Jul 07, 2010 8:04 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

pb24ss wrote:
I replaced my tubes with some extra hot air tubing I had left over from my Airtronic install. It's available for cheap from Espar. I got mine through thermo king. They are still a metalic wrapped paper like product, but they are very very sturdy and were an excellent replacement choice. I suspect they will hold up nicely for years to come. The diameter was a perfect fit.


I went to the Thermo King site but couldn't find the hoses. Can you supply a direct link please?
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PostPosted: Wed Jul 07, 2010 9:20 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

aeromech wrote:
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I replaced my tubes with some extra hot air tubing I had left over from my Airtronic install. It's available for cheap from Espar. I got mine through thermo king. They are still a metalic wrapped paper like product, but they are very very sturdy and were an excellent replacement choice. I suspect they will hold up nicely for years to come. The diameter was a perfect fit.


I went to the Thermo King site but couldn't find the hoses. Can you supply a direct link please?


It's Espar part number 10 2114 31 00 00 (60mm), 10 2114 34 00 00 (75mm), or 10 2114 31 00 00 (90mm).

http://www.espar.com/tech_manuals/AIRTRONIC%202-4/Airtronic.pdf
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PostPosted: Wed Jul 07, 2010 7:18 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thanks for the replies.

I ordered mine from VW Parts Unlimited thru the Samba ad
and I'll report back when installed and post some pics.

cheers Cool
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PostPosted: Tue Jul 13, 2010 7:16 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Here's some pics ( sorry a bit blurry )--just installed them.

Took about 1/2 hour--a bit tricky on the heater box ends,
started there, made some pre-bends, trial/error fit--went well.
I'd go for these on any other similar engine.

cheers Cool

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PostPosted: Fri Mar 20, 2015 2:09 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I found a link here:

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http://www.piersideparts.net/CSP129087021VA.html

Seems like a worthy upgrade any further updates on this sucker?
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PostPosted: Fri Mar 20, 2015 2:16 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I have been using them for a few years now. I will never go back to the cheese dog paper/foil ones on my personal cars.

you need to buy 2 if using them with a header, and trim to fit
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PostPosted: Fri Mar 20, 2015 2:21 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Cool I think I'll get them.

I am sporting the stock heater boxes but have a Vintage Speed exhaust you think I need two of those puppies?

Was fitting them to the heater boxes rather fiddly?
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