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thebrewer Samba Member
Joined: June 27, 2010 Posts: 39 Location: Montrealish
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Posted: Sat Jul 10, 2010 3:42 pm Post subject: replacing hose from water tank to sink |
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Hi all,
I would like to replace the water hose running from the water storage tank to the sink. Man are they scunggy (I think that is the techincal term for the condition that they are in).
Any one know off hand what the internal diameter of the hoses are? I would prefer to buy the hose and then start taking things apart.
Thanks in advance,
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chimivee Samba Member
Joined: September 23, 2009 Posts: 741 Location: Orange, CA
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Posted: Sat Jul 10, 2010 5:18 pm Post subject: Re: replacing hose from water tank to sink |
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thebrewer wrote: |
Hi all,
I would like to replace the water hose running from the water storage tank to the sink. Man are they scunggy (I think that is the techincal term for the condition that they are in).
Any one know off hand what the internal diameter of the hoses are? I would prefer to buy the hose and then start taking things apart.
Thanks in advance,
Pat |
3/8" I.D. _________________ -James
86 Syncro Westy, etc |
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Huxmobile Samba Member
Joined: June 16, 2008 Posts: 141 Location: SF Bay area
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Posted: Sat Jul 10, 2010 10:47 pm Post subject: |
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Agree, 3/8". Did mine a few weeks ago. I swapped out my lines from pump (inside tank) to top of tank, and from tank to faucet. Rather than pull the fridge, I taped the new hose to the old right at the tank, and pulled it forward (from tank toward faucet). For some reason when I tried to go the other way, the hose kept getting stuck.
No need to change the old vent hose, but it does look bad compared to new water lines.
Cheers _________________ 87 Westy 2.1L, manual (sold) |
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westynova Samba Member
Joined: December 14, 2008 Posts: 209 Location: Nova Scotia, Canada
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Posted: Sun Jul 11, 2010 4:55 am Post subject: |
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An option rather than replace the hose is to clean it in place. First I would shock the hose and tank with a good chlorine bath. This will kill most of the scunngy stuff. Next, disconnect the hose at the faucet and feed a long flexible wire from the faucet ond of the hose to the tank. Then pull through some sort of a cleaning rag several times. When you pull the first one through, tie a strong rope/ cord to the end so as it come out, you will have a pull through for the next one and so forth until you are satisfied that it is clean. Once this is done, shock the system again and then flush with clean water at least twice or until the taste of chlorine is gone. _________________ 84 Westy
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westynova Samba Member
Joined: December 14, 2008 Posts: 209 Location: Nova Scotia, Canada
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Posted: Sun Jul 11, 2010 5:04 am Post subject: |
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thebrewer: Just realized that you are out on Montrealish and you may have a CSA (Canadian Van) while the other guys will have the US model. One of the differences (not sure if it applies to all of them) is the Canadian Vans, the pump is in the sink cabinet rather than inside the tank like the US vans. If this is the case, getting at the hose at the tank is a bit difficult. You have to remove a lot of the cabinets as the suction connection is in the lower middle of the front side of the tank. Have a look from the inside of your tank to see where the connection is. If this is the case, you may want to save yourself a lot of heart ache and clean the hose in place.
I did this last year to keep my wife happy and she would still not drink the water out of the van, so during the winter I removed the entire water tank (now it is storage place) and fabricated a portable 10L water tank under the sink which can be replaced with a 20L tank for longer trips. My wife still brings bottled water when we go out. The old saying is, "you can drag a horse to water, stick its head underwater but it still can't make it drink" _________________ 84 Westy
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thebrewer Samba Member
Joined: June 27, 2010 Posts: 39 Location: Montrealish
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Posted: Sun Jul 11, 2010 5:19 am Post subject: |
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westynova wrote: |
thebrewer: Just realized that you are out on Montrealish and you may have a CSA (Canadian Van) while the other guys will have the US model. One of the differences (not sure if it applies to all of them) is the Canadian Vans, the pump is in the sink cabinet rather than inside the tank like the US vans. If this is the case, getting at the hose at the tank is a bit difficult. You have to remove a lot of the cabinets as the suction connection is in the lower middle of the front side of the tank. Have a look from the inside of your tank to see where the connection is. If this is the case, you may want to save yourself a lot of heart ache and clean the hose in place. |
Thanks for the info. I am pretty sure i have a Canadian van as it was purchased here in Quebec. Oddly enough there is no rust on the van which i am very happy about.
That being said, the pump is in the tank with hoses running from the tank behind the cabinets and into the sink. I have been thinking about the hoses and i agree that disconnecting one side and taping the new hose to the old should make it very easy to pull through. I am about to head out this morning to buy the tubing so will be able to report on progress this afternoon.
Pat |
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FNGRUVN Samba Member
Joined: October 27, 2007 Posts: 2237 Location: Fort Collins, CO
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Posted: Sun Jul 11, 2010 6:56 am Post subject: |
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Instead of taping the hose together, I would connect the two with a barbed coupling. Less chance for them pulling apart during the pulling process. _________________ "Democracy is two wolves and a lamb voting on what to have for lunch. Liberty is a well-armed lamb contesting the vote." - Benjamin Franklin |
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madspaniard Samba Member
Joined: August 18, 2008 Posts: 3795 Location: Alameda, CA
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Posted: Sun Jul 11, 2010 8:03 am Post subject: |
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In most Westy models, the water hose running from the tank to the sink is held in place behind the wood panel by two plastic eyelets attached to the panel making the "tape or use a barb between old and new hose" a bit useless because in most cases the slightess increase in diameter (tape over) will stop the hose from going thru the eyelets. Using a barb is something I also tried but you need to secure the barb in place so that the hose does not come out of it when pulling. Again you run into the same problem with increased diameter. These are the issues I ran into when doing mine. At the end I ended up pulling out all cabinets and became a bigger project checking for rust behind kitchen, doing insulation and sound dampening, new fridge, etc. Funny how a simple $15 project turned into the summer megaproject. _________________ 1991 Westy auto w/ Peloquin TBD
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tam_shops Samba Member
Joined: November 15, 2012 Posts: 1530 Location: Vancouver BC
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Posted: Sat Jun 15, 2013 8:31 pm Post subject: Re: replacing hose from water tank to sink |
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Anyone have more information on this? What kind? Where? How much? Prices? Please!
chimivee wrote: |
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Way back when I was reading the filtered water thread: http://www.thesamba.com/vw/forum/viewtopic.php?t=3...mp;start=0
I checked under my sink and the tubes looked clean. Figured some kind smart PO had replaced them and did the happy dance! Got around to bleaching the entire system last week and when I added the bleach, noticed this one rogue nasty dirty grimy black disgusting tube that clearly goes from my nice clean water tank, straight to my tap I'll bet!
So, replace it I shall do...but need way more information first. Please! I sew, so very familiar with fishing things through things, caught (get and have done it) what some one said about securing the two tube better than taping. BUT, thought I read something someone said about the original tubes being secured down, thus the're not just going to pop out!
tam _________________ 1987 Vanagon Westfalia GL Automatic
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randywebb Samba Member
Joined: February 15, 2005 Posts: 3815 Location: Greater Metropolitan Nimrod, Orygun
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tam_shops Samba Member
Joined: November 15, 2012 Posts: 1530 Location: Vancouver BC
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Posted: Sun Jun 16, 2013 8:16 am Post subject: |
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Tank cleaned. Twice. 2 Cups (500mL) Bleach to a full tank. The guy at the water store did the calculation for me, it's what they use...Sat for 2hr and then rinsed. Twice.
tam
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kamzcab86 Samba Moderator
Joined: July 26, 2008 Posts: 7923 Location: Arizona
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Posted: Tue Jun 18, 2013 2:18 pm Post subject: Re: replacing hose from water tank to sink |
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tam_shops wrote: |
Anyone have more information on this? What kind? Where? How much? Prices? Please! |
Where: Plumbing department at Home Depot, Lowe's, Ace, True Value...
What: 3/8" I.D. PVC tubing
Length: Tank to sink is roughly 4 feet
Price: Shouldn't be more than $5 for a pre-packaged roll of 10 feet (buy this and you can replace both the sink and vent tubes). _________________ ~Kamz
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randywebb Samba Member
Joined: February 15, 2005 Posts: 3815 Location: Greater Metropolitan Nimrod, Orygun
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Posted: Tue Jun 18, 2013 4:46 pm Post subject: |
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pay the extra and get the silver impregnated hose from GW _________________ 1986 2.1L Westy 2wd Auto Trans. |
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tam_shops Samba Member
Joined: November 15, 2012 Posts: 1530 Location: Vancouver BC
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Posted: Fri Nov 29, 2013 10:37 pm Post subject: Re: replacing hose from water tank to sink |
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Ready to do this, might make for a fun rainy day project...Came here to see who said to use what and now see the obvious fantastic cheap idea:
kamzcab86 wrote: |
tam_shops wrote: |
Anyone have more information on this? What kind? Where? How much? Prices? Please! |
Where: Plumbing department at Home Depot, Lowe's, Ace, True Value...
What: 3/8" I.D. PVC tubing
Length: Tank to sink is roughly 4 feet
Price: Shouldn't be more than $5 for a pre-packaged roll of 10 feet (buy this and you can replace both the sink and vent tubes). |
VS
Expensive with no understanding as to why I'd want silver in my water? Reminds me of that Blue Man on Oprah. LOL
randywebb wrote: |
pay the extra and get the silver impregnated hose from GW |
http://www.gowesty.com/ec_view_details.php?id=23593
And, I'm not sure I'll be able to drink out of it even after all that. Hard to get those nasty hose images out of my mind!
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randywebb Samba Member
Joined: February 15, 2005 Posts: 3815 Location: Greater Metropolitan Nimrod, Orygun
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Posted: Fri Nov 29, 2013 11:54 pm Post subject: |
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silver inhibits bacterial growth _________________ 1986 2.1L Westy 2wd Auto Trans. |
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LandSailor Samba Member
Joined: October 30, 2009 Posts: 315 Location: Las Vegas, NV
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Posted: Sat Nov 30, 2013 12:11 pm Post subject: Re: replacing hose from water tank to sink |
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tam_shops wrote: |
Expensive with no understanding as to why I'd want silver in my water? Reminds me of that Blue Man on Oprah. LOL
And, I'm not sure I'll be able to drink out of it even after all that. Hard to get those nasty hose images out of my mind!
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That guy was actively consuming colloidal silver. This is an entirely different idea. I might have sprung for it if it was available when I re-did my system (or if I had noticed it). |
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hans j Samba Member
Joined: May 06, 2006 Posts: 2715 Location: Salt Lake City UT
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Posted: Sat Apr 19, 2014 9:54 pm Post subject: Re: replacing hose from water tank to sink |
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kamzcab86 wrote: |
Length: Tank to sink is roughly 4 feet. |
Note: Just did this in my Canadian westy with external pump and the length was just under 7 feet from tank to pump/pump to faucet. I don't know the length of the fresh water fill since I don't plan on using it. _________________ 1986 Canadian Syncro Westy TDI - 1989 Syncro Single Cab - 2001 Audi S4 - 1981 VW Caddy ABA - 1980 VW Caddy EV - 1973 VW T-181 |
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