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Cold Steel Samba Member
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Posted: Sun Jul 18, 2010 7:56 am Post subject: Best Product for restoring the plastic parts on the exterior |
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Hey guys. I wanted to remove the faded looking plastic on exterior of the van. What would be the best product?
Thanks _________________ 91 Syncro
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speedygeorge Samba Member
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Posted: Sun Jul 18, 2010 8:30 am Post subject: Re: Best Product for restoring the plastic parts on the exte |
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crystalcabot wrote: |
Hey guys. I wanted to remove the faded looking plastic on exterior of the van. What would be the best product?
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I have used this and it worked well, or you could always spray paint
http://www.meguiars.com/estore/product_list.cfm?sectionname=Consumer (Meguiar's Brand)>Car Trim/Molding Care§ionID=16101 |
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kamzcab86 Samba Moderator
Joined: July 26, 2008 Posts: 7923 Location: Arizona
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Posted: Sun Jul 18, 2010 8:59 am Post subject: |
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I've found restoration products such as Meguiars, Mother's Back To Black, etc. work, but are temporary; they all require reapplication at some point. Since it was looking pretty bad, I sprayed my van's spoiler with VHT Epoxy Paint in Satin Black and will eventually be doing the same with the side vents and the front grilles. The store also had VHT Bumper & Trim Paint that I'm sure would work just as well, but I wanted a slight sheen so I went with the other stuff.
Spoiler before:
Spoiler after:
Several months, a couple thousand miles and a few washings (including scrubbing) later, it still looks like I just sprayed it. _________________ ~Kamz
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stormforge Samba Member
Joined: May 05, 2009 Posts: 355 Location: Adirondacks NY
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Posted: Sun Jul 18, 2010 10:02 am Post subject: |
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I've had really good luck with "Forever Black". It's a dye-like product that comes in a shoe-polish style applicator. Excellent for black rubber and plastic parts such as mirrors, ground effects, etc... Made my dry, faded, light-grey colored mirror housings like new again and it's looked good for over a year now. Not sure how well it would do on painted parts. I think for bumpers and grills I would stick with a good cleaning and lots of coats of high-quality spray paint.
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Cold Steel Samba Member
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Posted: Sun Jul 18, 2010 10:11 am Post subject: |
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yeah i wanted to do use it for the grills,and mirrors. _________________ 91 Syncro
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madspaniard Samba Member
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Posted: Sun Jul 18, 2010 10:12 am Post subject: |
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stormforge wrote: |
I've had really good luck with "Forever Black". It's a dye-like product that comes in a shoe-polish style applicator. Excellent for black rubber and plastic parts such as mirrors, ground effects, etc... Made my dry, faded, light-grey colored mirror housings like new again and it's looked good for over a year now. Not sure how well it would do on painted parts. I think for bumpers and grills I would stick with a good cleaning and lots of coats of high-quality spray paint.
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Wolfram Samba Member
Joined: June 23, 2005 Posts: 184 Location: Waiheke Island/On The Road USA
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Posted: Sun Jul 18, 2010 10:55 am Post subject: |
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After years of using Armorall etc I decided to look for a permanent solution, or rather one that lasted more than a few washes. I used Dupli-color bumper and trim rattlecan paint on most of the exterior black finish parts, including the fibreglass bumpers and mirror housings.
A light sand with 300grit and a good wipe down with thinner followed by 2-3 light spray coats and they look new. Held up the same for 2 years.
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RCB Samba Member
Joined: September 05, 2005 Posts: 4143 Location: San Francisco-Bay Area
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Posted: Sun Jul 18, 2010 12:10 pm Post subject: |
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kamzcab86 wrote: |
I've found restoration products such as Meguiars, Mother's Back To Black, etc. work, but are temporary; they all require reapplication at some point. Since it was looking pretty bad, I sprayed my van's spoiler with VHT Epoxy Paint in Satin Black and will eventually be doing the same with the side vents and the front grilles. The store also had VHT bumper & trim epoxy paint that I'm sure would work just as well, but I wanted a slight sheen so I went with the other stuff.
Spoiler before:
Spoiler after:
Several months, a couple thousand miles and a few washings (including scrubbing) later, it still looks like I just sprayed it. |
Thats some pretty impressive looking results, gonna try that product on a bumper end cap I have and if all goes well I might redo my grill with it.
Thankx for the post. |
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SteveVanB Samba Member
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Posted: Sun Jul 18, 2010 12:49 pm Post subject: |
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Krylon Fusion satin black works good. _________________ 91 CARAT |
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Terry Kay Banned
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Posted: Sun Jul 18, 2010 12:59 pm Post subject: |
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The air dams that you shot black with a rattle can, may not look that good in a short period of time.
That stuff is flexable--not hard plastic, and you'll find it rolling off pretty quick.
One boink at a high curb your all done.
You could have wiped them down with lacquer thinner which would have removed all of the oxidation and would have stayed pitch black & looked good for at least a year ad a a couple hundred car washes.
To revitalize--spritz them with aother shot of the silcone spray. _________________ T.K. |
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kamzcab86 Samba Moderator
Joined: July 26, 2008 Posts: 7923 Location: Arizona
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Posted: Sun Jul 18, 2010 5:09 pm Post subject: |
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Terry Kay wrote: |
The air dams that you shot black with a rattle can, may not look that good in a short period of time.
That stuff is flexable--not hard plastic, and you'll find it rolling off pretty quick.
One boink at a high curb your all done.
You could have wiped them down with lacquer thinner which would have removed all of the oxidation and would have stayed pitch black & looked good for at least a year ad a a couple hundred car washes.
To revitalize--spritz them with aother shot of the silcone spray. |
Are you referring my post? If so: I used VHT Epoxy Paint (not Krylon Fusion, which a lot folks around here have had success with; not DupliColor, a brand I despise) that is self-priming and claims to be rust, corrosion, salt and chemical resistant. It is "ideal for for metal, aluminum, fiberglass and plastic". Primer wasn't required, but I did clean it thoroughly before spraying. As I stated earlier, it's been several months since I sprayed the spoiler; it's also been driven a couple thousand miles with a bra attached at the sides, and has been washed repeatedly, even scrubbed and high-pressure washed, and still looks as good as the day I painted it. Need picture proof, just let me know.
And, one boink with a curb is going to do more a bit more damage than taking epoxy off... ask my grandma's Jetta. _________________ ~Kamz
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vanarover Samba Member
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Posted: Sun Jul 18, 2010 7:32 pm Post subject: |
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I didn't really read through all of this, but I will say that Rust O Leum PlastiKote paint works WONDERS. _________________ 85 Westfalia
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Vanagonner Samba Member
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Posted: Sun Jul 18, 2010 9:00 pm Post subject: |
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I like the Krylon in a black color/silver metal flake combo. Makes plastic look like glass filled ABS. Shows up black 'till the sun hits it and then reflects a silver gleam. It's not to everyone's taste, I'm sure. _________________ Sage
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Terry Kay Banned
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Posted: Sun Jul 18, 2010 10:17 pm Post subject: |
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None of the paints you guys are referring to is Urethane.
It's just enamel.
It'll chip, fade, peel, or crack with time.
It'll work fine on hard plastic ( upper lower grill, mirror's etc) but will fail on a flexable plastic surface.
Not your best choice of refinishing materials. _________________ T.K.
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13thstreetgti Samba Member
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Posted: Sun Jul 18, 2010 10:25 pm Post subject: |
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If you're looking to bring back black color to faded trim, try Kiwi Leather Shoe Dye (NOT POLISH!). Guys with MKII Volkswagen Golf/Jettas have been using this for a long time.
Just make sure the surface is clean before you apply, and that you don't apply when the trim is really hot otherwise it will look streaky. |
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Californio Samba Member
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Posted: Mon Jul 19, 2010 5:15 am Post subject: |
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Autobody supply shops will sell you a rattle bomb of professional trim black for a few bucks. More bite than Krylon, OEM look, doesn't peel or crack. |
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Terry Kay Banned
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Posted: Mon Jul 19, 2010 8:38 am Post subject: |
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<<<Autobody supply shops will sell you a rattle bomb of professional trim black for a few bucks. More bite than Krylon, OEM look, doesn't peel or crack.>>>
Whats the Brand Name of this product?
I have to take a ride to my local Dupont /3-M dealer today anyway, I'll take a look for this miracle in a shake em up can. _________________ T.K. |
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silversync Samba Member
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Posted: Mon Jul 19, 2010 9:08 am Post subject: |
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The product called "Forever Black" works really well, it is a dye. http://www.foreverblack.com/ I used it about 4 years ago on everything black on the exterior. It works really well on plastic, rubber, and softer things. It doesn't work on things that are not really porous like painted items such as the windshield wiper arms. Like another post, I did the backs of the power mirrors -- but it isn't forever! Now 4 years later, the plastic mirror housings need it again. Many of the other treatments (Mothers back to black) are just silicone overlays that change the properties of light as it passes through the outer layers of the item, they don't make anything black like this dye.
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Terry Kay Banned
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Posted: Mon Jul 19, 2010 9:42 am Post subject: |
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I wanted to know about the rattle can flexable black paint that's available at any local body shop supply.
The forever black stuff is a Wally World available product, and really doesn't refinish anything-
It sure didn't work on the black bumper mouldings on my 325 I. _________________ T.K. |
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kamzcab86 Samba Moderator
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Posted: Mon Jul 19, 2010 10:48 am Post subject: |
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Terry Kay wrote: |
None of the paints you guys are referring to is Urethane.... |
If one took the time to click on the link to the VHT Bumper & Trim Paint I referred to in my first post one would've read the following (of course, I see now that I worded the link incorrectly because "epoxy" is not the product's name ; will edit that info):
"VHT HOOD, BUMPER & TRIM PAINT
VHT Hood, Bumper & Trim urethane coating is formulated with elastomers that allow for the flexing of paint on pliable surfaces. This unique formula is also well suited for fiberglass, plastic and other resin based bodywork. Equally suited for metal, VHT Hood, Bumper & Trim Paint offers excellent hide and mar resistance.
Temperature: n/a
Applications: Plastic Bumpers, Rubber Bumpers, Body Trim, Kick Panels, Dash Boards, Mirror Castings, ATV Body Work, Motorcycle Body Work
Finish: Satin
Dry Time: Dries to the touch in 30 mins. Dries thoroughly overnight. No curing required.
Coating System
VHT provides a multi-high performance coating system for the ultimate in protection and quality. The system includes urethane coating."
If my spoiler's Epoxy Paint should happen to peel, crack, chip, fade, etc., I'll simply respray it with the Bumper & Trim Paint; not a big deal to me. But as I said, 4 months later the epoxy stuff is still readily taking abuse. _________________ ~Kamz
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