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PostPosted: Wed Aug 04, 2010 12:00 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

The SA flaps on a Syncro fit very close to the tire - as you can see from that photo. If you do a lot of offloading this can be an issue for two reasons: you can pack up that small space with mud, and you can tear them off the van if you are trying to reverse out of a deep hole. The German ones are heavier and a better quality product, IMHO. I've had both. I believe all, or at least post-86 Vanagons, have the mounting holes for 4 mud flaps.
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PostPosted: Wed Aug 04, 2010 7:25 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

@ izzydog

I guess your right, my 86 Syncro seams to have holes in the frame right at the mounting points.
And the off roading issues is exactly why I brought this up.
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PostPosted: Wed Aug 04, 2010 8:38 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

ddonnell wrote:
Thinking about getting a pair to be the guinea pig... I might get 2 pair(front and back) because shipping is the same with more quantities...


Great! I was thinking the same thing. Please report back.

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PostPosted: Wed Aug 04, 2010 8:39 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

some shots of the factory mudflaps on my '86 syncro

alistair

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PostPosted: Wed Aug 04, 2010 8:41 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Great photos, thanks!
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PostPosted: Wed Aug 04, 2010 9:07 am    Post subject: Grey Water Tank Reply with quote

What a find on Craig's list! Is there an aftermarket available? Has anyone rigged one up on there own?
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PostPosted: Wed Aug 04, 2010 9:11 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

After washing and waxing my van last night, I have come of the opinion that the german mudflaps mount too far from the tire for most applications. There are a LOT of rock chips in the area forward of the flap.
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PostPosted: Wed Aug 04, 2010 10:11 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

ragnarhairybreeks wrote:
some shots of the factory mudflaps on my '86 syncro

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So are there holes in the body for upper mounting bolts, or is that upper section just rigid enough that the lower bolts hold it in place?

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PostPosted: Wed Aug 04, 2010 11:18 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Volksaholic wrote:

So are there holes in the body for upper mounting bolts, or is that upper section just rigid enough that the lower bolts hold it in place?

Paul


Nope, there are two pegs on the upper "arm" of the mudflap that you have to drill for.

Courage and an appropriately sized drill bit will get you holes where you don't have them. My 85 Westy (2wd) only had factory holes for the driver's side front, which is really just there to protect the propane tank.

I mounted a passenger side front, and both rears, and had to drill for each. Truly a time when you want to measure twice (or more) and drill once.
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PostPosted: Thu Aug 05, 2010 5:46 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

The dealer installed my mudflaps in the stock holes for the syncro fender flares Confused and yes i you back over something big enough they will rip off trust me Evil or Very Mad
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PostPosted: Thu Aug 05, 2010 8:49 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Those german mudflaps are oddly rearward - allowing lots of needless stone chipping on the paint right behind the wheelwell. Hmm.

If you have mudflaps in the normal position but worry about ripping them off while backing into things, try this: I put stainless hardware on the bottom center of some rigs in the past, creating a place to hook a small stainless cable that is looped and secured up when not used. When wheeling, the cable is pulled down from its hiding spot behind the mudflap, the mudflap is pulled sharply rear and up against the body and the cable attached to the tip of the mudflap to hold it there. Now the flap is up out of harms way but still provides the same rock chip protection. Just looks goofy for road driving.

So, the mudflap is pulled up and back by its tip.

So, Allistair what happened to the little black plastic fin like things on the Syncro? My 87 is missing one and they're pricy but yours has no holes as it if never had them?

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PostPosted: Thu Aug 05, 2010 9:41 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

IdahoDoug wrote:
Those german mudflaps are oddly rearward - allowing lots of needless stone chipping on the paint right behind the wheelwell. Hmm.

If you have mudflaps in the normal position but worry about ripping them off while backing into things, try this: I put stainless hardware on the bottom center of some rigs in the past, creating a place to hook a small stainless cable that is looped and secured up when not used. When wheeling, the cable is pulled down from its hiding spot behind the mudflap, the mudflap is pulled sharply rear and up against the body and the cable attached to the tip of the mudflap to hold it there. Now the flap is up out of harms way but still provides the same rock chip protection. Just looks goofy for road driving.

So, the mudflap is pulled up and back by its tip.

So, Allistair what happened to the little black plastic fin like things on the Syncro? My 87 is missing one and they're pricy but yours has no holes as it if never had them?

DougM


yeah Doug, you have to wonder why they are set so far back. I am sure the VW engineers had a good answer Smile

Maybe its the time of night, or the beer, but what "black plastic fin like things" are you referring to?

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PostPosted: Mon Aug 09, 2010 9:31 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

At the bottom rear of all 4 wheelwells is a black plastic fin. It runs about 6" up the lip of the wheel well and at the bottom widest point is about 3" wide. One of mine is missing and I see they are factory and sell for big $$$. I was told this is a syncro only feature.

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PostPosted: Mon Aug 09, 2010 10:17 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

IdahoDoug wrote:
At the bottom rear of all 4 wheelwells is a black plastic fin. It runs about 6" up the lip of the wheel well and at the bottom widest point is about 3" wide. One of mine is missing and I see they are factory and sell for big $$$. I was told this is a syncro only feature.

DougM


GW has these (used) on ebay for $25/ea.
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PostPosted: Mon Aug 09, 2010 1:39 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Doug,

now I understand, the sort of half wheel arch rubbers? shown here above the big flaps.
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I wonder if they came on all syncros, will keep an eye out now...

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PostPosted: Mon Aug 09, 2010 2:39 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

They seem to be on all Syncro Westys that I've seen here in the US. Not sure about passenger Syncros but now I'll keep my eyes open for the local passenger vans around here - more than a few down here in the Bay Area...
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PostPosted: Mon Aug 09, 2010 11:25 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Mine's a passenger syncro and has the little mudflaplets. They're hard plastic with zero flex. Seem to be hollow molded hard plastic. The missing one left two 1/4" holes so some kind of expanding fastener I'm guessing. I'll be pulling the other 3 for body refinishing.
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PostPosted: Tue Aug 10, 2010 2:39 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

ragnarhairybreeks wrote:
Doug,

now I understand, the sort of half wheel arch rubbers? shown here above the big flaps.
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I wonder if they came on all syncros, will keep an eye out now...

alistair


Someone from Maine has a set of those half arch flaps for a Syncro listed here on the Samba.
http://www.thesamba.com/vw/classifieds/detail.php?id=989568
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PostPosted: Tue Aug 10, 2010 7:04 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

While on the subject of Mud flaps, and to kinda change the subj. how do u get old spray paint off of a mud flap? I got a set free but one has a lot of white spray paint on them. They are the Good VW Set.
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PostPosted: Sat Jan 29, 2011 11:38 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

climberjohn wrote:
ddonnell wrote:
Thinking about getting a pair to be the guinea pig... I might get 2 pair(front and back) because shipping is the same with more quantities...


Great! I was thinking the same thing. Please report back.

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Okay, so I finally did this. I am please with the result. Please read the details and see some photos on this post:

DIY mud flap brackets?
http://www.thesamba.com/vw/forum/viewtopic.php?p=5100054

a teaser . . . Wink
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