Clip 010323157 on Direct/Reverse clutch : where to find+ bad TC?

[ALIKA T3]

Hello folks!

I got a couple questions for the automatic transmission gurus

When the torque converter is drained, should I hear stuff moving inside when I shake it? How does one know if a TC is bad when not running?

I'm rebuilding a 090 automatic transmission and I read in the manual that the retaining clip thickness is critical in this assembly: it needs between 2.05 and 2.5 mm end play.
I don't know why but I have not even 1 mm of play with new steels and frictions so I need a thinner clip which is NLA everywhere. I was going to buy all dimensions available, 4 actually, since I have 2 other spare transmissions that needs rebuild at some point.

How do you guys deal with that ?

Obviously my transmission was assembled like that ( was rebuilt at some point): I saw some bluish marks on the steels but it was working fine but the frictions were definitely thinner than the replacement ones. ( worn out or frictions from the Forward clutch assembly) to cheat.

Thanks for your help
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[MarkWard]

Hello, I would recount your steel and fibers that you removed. The overhaul kits come with more than you need to cover different versions. Some used bundles of 4 others used bundles of 5. I count 5 each in your picture.

Pay close attention to page 38.17 Forward Clutch. I recall that a thrust plate and friction plate are installed from the bottom of the ring gear. The others stack on top. Also pay attention to 38.19. Direct and Reverse clutch. Notice the manual shows 4 steels and 4 fibers.

It's possible a previous rebuild was not done properly. mark
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[ALIKA T3]

[AtlasShrugged]

Jim Ellis Porsche parts has the clips (lock ring)..between $6.47 and $2.32 each.

http://www.porscheatlantaperimeterparts.com/productSearch.aspx?searchTerm=010323157

The "A" part number is 1.50mm thick

The "H" part number is 2.30 thick

The "J" part number is 2.50 thick

Do replace your torque converter..the rattle is normal..the junk captured inside could be a problem.

[pablum]

Mark has it there: you have 5 steels in your pack.

Oddly, the atsg techtran manual indicates steel/friction/steel/steel/friction/pressure, i.e., 3 steels and two frictions. maybe for a rabbit?

(edit: that above is for the 003. for the 010 it's 5 steels and 3 frictions PICTURED, with two steels between each friction. That's certainly NOT the setup for the vanagon 010)
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[AtlasShrugged]

Should be 4 plus 4, according to the book

Be sure you are using the correct frictions..there are two types with different patterns and thick thicknesses.

[ALIKA T3]

[AtlasShrugged]

Is if the Porsche dealer there can get the same part number for you..and save shipping?

Auto Zone there in Hawaii has a torque converter for $200..part number VW2

Try CarQuest too...torque converters are not rocket science. A quality reman is important.

[ALIKA T3]

[ALIKA T3]

[AtlasShrugged]

Raybestos friction plates are .089 thickness for the D/R and .062 forward clutch..and..the friction patterns are different.

[ALIKA T3]