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ALIKA T3
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I'm not an engineer,but I don't see why they would twist,that doesn't make sense to me,they work around the bushing,revolving with a motion up and down. Only the Syncro have that weird stupid angle that makes them sliding half way out of the original rubber bushing with time.
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insyncro
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| I'm just starting to do my front end. I've heard negative things about the front lower poly bushings, because the arm twists as well as hinges? |
That must be a tight lipped group of unhappy converts.
I have not heard the same.
Twisting of the arm speaks of other fouls as well, suspension wise.
Not just one set of bushings.
Stance neutral alignment will take some of the strain off of loaded suspension parts.
Knowing where to stiffen and where to soften is the art of tuning. |
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BillM
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I have all Powerflex bushings up front none are stock
anymore. Handles great and no squeaks.
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gl98115
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| Anyone NOT like the front lower control arm poly bushings? |
The purple color is a little too 'Tiger Beat' for me.
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stickycandies
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All good for me too. I rebuilt my front end earlier this year using mostly power flex bushings (including upper and lower control arm bushings). The van is now clunk free and handles great (my old bushings were in really bad shape). I have noticed that I feel a little more from the road with them but the handling improvements certainly made it worth while. Just waiting for the rack bushings to get to me now...
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ALIKA T3
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shadetreetim
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I have the complete set of powerflex bushings on the front and back of my ride. I concur it definitely tightens everything up, the handling quality of a Vanagon becomes a non-issue with these bushings. I bought the tub of the Redline low washout grease from T3Techniques for the install and no squeaking has returned yet. I highly recommend the entire set of powerflex bushings.
Having held the old rubber LCA bushings in my hand and then the powerflex, as well as installing them, I can't see where they would allow more twisting movement than the stock ones would, although I also don't see where you would get much twisting movement in a 2WD front end anyway.
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Christopher Schimke
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I finally received a sample of the new Powerflex multi-piece rear trailing arm bushings and thought you guys might like to take peek. These are actually intended for use on the Eurovan, but since the Eurovan inner rear trailing arm bushings are identical to the Vanagon inner and outer rear trailing arm bushings, they will work great on the Vanagon.
Nice internal grid system to retain the grease.
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Hi Chris,
any news on the auto tranny mount?
Thanks
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insyncro
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I finally received a sample of the new Powerflex multi-piece rear trailing arm bushings and thought you guys might like to take peek. These are actually intended for use on the Eurovan, but since the Eurovan inner rear trailing arm bushings are identical to the Vanagon inner and outer rear trailing arm bushings, they will work great on the Vanagon.
Nice internal grid system to retain the grease.
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Nice.
Now you have one stop shopping for bushings and more.
Looking forward to hearing they are the bomb. |
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teej
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I finally received a sample of the new Powerflex multi-piece rear trailing arm bushings and thought you guys might like to take peek. These are actually intended for use on the Eurovan, but since the Eurovan inner rear trailing arm bushings are identical to the Vanagon inner and outer rear trailing arm bushings, they will work great on the Vanagon.
Nice internal grid system to retain the grease.
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We have quieted this puppy down so much over the last 2 years, lotsa Powerflex has helped, the only reliable squeaks now are the rear trailing arms, and no amount of spray lube seems to help. I see this in our future. Look forward to some reports.
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Pascal
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I'm working on installing the lower control arm and upper control arm bushing. Given the design of the Powerflex bushings and the use of grease, does it matter if the suspesion is loaded or unloaded when torqueing the bushing bolts? Thanks
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Christopher Schimke
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| I'm working on installing the lower control arm and upper control arm bushing. Given the design of the Powerflex bushings and the use of grease, does it matter if the suspesion is loaded or unloaded when torqueing the bushing bolts? Thanks |
You can install them either way with no issues whatsoever.
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Lucas Oil Red & Tacky |
Trying to find info on this. Is this lithium based grease synthetic?
(Shouldn't use mineral based grease on poly urethane bushings?)
Have folks had good long term results with this grease on poly bushings? (Powerflex)
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maco70
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Hi Christopher,
First, I would like to thank you for this nice initiative.
Also, to be honest and without changing the threads topic, I simply wish to share my point to you and guys around.
I read many great things about those bushings, and we shared emails on it. The handling improvement was a great wish for me, but since my bushings are still quite okay, the reading of some Samba friends threads on the need of lubrification (some never got this need, but some got even an issue with that) made me quite afraid to, yes, getting a better handling but also... getting a new concern about this lubrification need.
So, I look close to it and the next result, but still not ready for the present.
I hope it helps, Christopher.
Best Regards / Merci,
Martin
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Any whiteline or powerflex parts I've used came with packets of lubricating grease. Chris sells Redline CV-2 grease.
I am on a holiday road trip in my 1981 Westfalia. I have powerflex sway bar bushings on order from Chris and will install them during this trip but I neglected to order the CV-2 grease and will be leaving this shipping address soon. The parts will come with grease, but it would be helpful to have more grease than is needed on hand for the job. This is why I was asking about the Lucas grease. It's available "on the shelf" in stores like autozone.
Edit: while looking at red n tacky grease specs, found this marine grade grease
http://lucasoil.com/products/grease/marine-grease
Ive read that some people use a "marine" grease for this application. Not saying these are better products than the CV-2.
Neil.
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avernon82
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So I installed an all powerflex front end (except for the sway bar) about 4000 miles ago. I've developed a groan in the front right corner.
Thinking about taking off the wheel and unbolting the A-arm to test if that's the culprit.
If it's groaning over bumps, will it groan if I unbolt it and move it by hand? Just want to figure out exactly what's groaning. Would be great if it was the sway bar! |
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