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PostPosted: Sun Aug 29, 2010 10:28 am    Post subject: Type IV carb question Reply with quote

I am running a 2.0 litre motor with a 009 dist. And a weber progressive. The bus is running great until I go up a hill or floor it then it starts pinging a bit. Any advice would be nice. Thanks
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PostPosted: Sun Aug 29, 2010 10:34 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

How do you have it timed?
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PostPosted: Sun Aug 29, 2010 11:01 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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PostPosted: Sun Aug 29, 2010 11:17 am    Post subject: DDD Reply with quote

I would try and find a stock distributor and get rid of that 009.The bus runs a lot better.dave 1973 bus
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PostPosted: Sun Aug 29, 2010 12:05 pm    Post subject: Re: DDD Reply with quote

bugsy95 wrote:
I would try and find a stock distributor and get rid of that 009.The bus runs a lot better.dave 1973 bus

I dumped my 009 for an SVDA from aircooled.net.
http://www.aircooled.net/new-bin/viewproductdetail.php?keyword2=IGD0001&cartid=
I was shocked at how much better it ran. Worth the price.
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PostPosted: Sun Aug 29, 2010 12:48 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

A few questions/answers to help the gallery cogitate:

Is this a behavior that has started recently?

Have you changed fuel grades or stations? Additives?

Has a different driver been putting miles on your ride?

Has your payload increased lately (more passengers, crates of gold bullion)?

Does the pinging have any relationship to outside air temperature?

Have you put new tires and/or wheels on the bus recently?

Any engine mods you would like to confess to?

How long since your last tune-up?
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PostPosted: Sun Aug 29, 2010 8:18 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

What is the compression ratio you're running in that engine Also what is the ambient temp in your area. Before pointing fingers at that dizzy, I would tune it up and adjust the carb esp. mixture or run a much higher octane fuel to test that theory.
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PostPosted: Sun Aug 29, 2010 8:45 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

How many miles on the motor? An excess amount of carbon build up can cause pinging.
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PostPosted: Mon Aug 30, 2010 4:41 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Check that the ported vac outlet on the carb is plugged.

What size are the main, air correction jets and pump jet?
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PostPosted: Mon Aug 30, 2010 1:31 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Ok outside air temp. 70's ~ 80's driving home from birmingham bug blast. Tire's and engine - Stock for a '76 westy 2.0L all stock save 009 and weber progressive. How many miles on the engine no more than 200 when I started this last trip I had to redo the piston's and heads after blowing a hole in the top of a piston (had the timing way off) Octane running is 89 with lucas additive. It only pings when I going up a hill and trying to maintain speed. If I give it the rest of the carb (the other barrel) the pinging goes away. Last tune up umm saturday at the car show due to me not quite knowing what I was doing on adjusting the valves. Learn something new everyday Smile Size of the jets have no clue is that something you can figure out by looking at the jets themselves?
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PostPosted: Mon Aug 30, 2010 1:51 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yep, you have to pull the top to get the air correction, main and pump jet, for the idle they are screwed into the sides. You are lean, possibly the mains, possibly a little on idle jet depending on what rpm you are pinging at, the air correction may be too large causing the fuel well to be too low for fuel to be drawn down the throat at that particular rpm. Get the jet sizes.

Just out of curiosity is this the same carb set up on the engine you blew a piston?
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PostPosted: Mon Aug 30, 2010 3:52 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Your pinging probably isn't going away at WOT, it is probably just changing its character froma ping to a thud and that is why you destroyed your last pistons. You are either too high a compression, too low an octane or too advance timing. If you are using a variable timing light less than a snap on etc don't rely on the numbers on it to time the bus.
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