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PostPosted: Sun Aug 29, 2010 4:58 pm    Post subject: GoWesty Wasser-Stopper Reply with quote

Well, even with the coolant pipe leak today I stuck with the plan to tackle the Wasser-Stopper install. It all went pretty easy, though like everything it is not always a perfect fit.

You need to drill 5 holes in the lip of the top on the fiberglass lip forward of the tent attachment.

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Then install 4 snap tabs. 1 each at positions #6 and #11 on either side of the top by replacing the tent install install screws with the snap tab. This is where I ran into the only trouble that I had. The black plastic washer/screw seat was a touch too thick and/or the supplied screw just a touch too short for position #6. I think that this, combined with a second or third screw installed in this top, did not leave enough fiberglass for the screw to have any purchase. I will fix this the next time the top comes off with a little resin in the hole and re-drill.
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Overall the installation and product looks nice, and I feel that it will work well out here in the PNW or where ever the van takes us in the future.

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PostPosted: Sun Aug 29, 2010 5:09 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I had the same problem with the screws on the side being too short. However, I've found that you don't really need to snap it up on the sides. There is plenty of tension between the front and back to keep it tight and the water out. I've been real happy with mine. Having the front cargo enclosed when camping is awesome. We have found it a great spot to put our clothes and shoes.
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PostPosted: Sun Aug 29, 2010 5:14 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Nice bit of kit there, Wish i could get somthing similar for my Wiensberg pop up roof Sad
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PostPosted: Sun Aug 29, 2010 5:31 pm    Post subject: fly Reply with quote

Mine works great. Emailed GoWesty and told them so.

I mentioned it would be cool if it had little extensions for over the slider windows on the drivers side and the sliding door if you have the screen on the door. A short flap you could stake out or tie off would be great for air flow especially if you are on a one night stopover and didn't want to set up an awning. But that's just crazy talk.

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PostPosted: Sun Aug 29, 2010 8:33 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Like GWTWTLW I don't bother with the side snaps, honestly doesn't add much to the system. Great item to have if you're used to inclement weather and don't like a wet tent. Also seems to 'insulate' the top a bit (if that's even possible). Perhaps more of a windbreak than anything else.
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PostPosted: Mon Aug 30, 2010 4:15 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Love the Wasser Stopper! This was one of the best purchases I have made.
It seems to keep the inside so much dryer, without the damp feeling in
the morning. I've found that the rear velcro is hard to attach to one another
but after a night of camping it seems to come together nicely.
Then as the day heats up everything seems to shrink and a nice tight
fit happens. Works well with the Bus Depot EZ awning too!
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PostPosted: Mon Aug 30, 2010 6:12 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

+1 on love for the Wasser-Stopper. Has never leaked a drop. Stands up to high winds. Not real expensive. Easy to put up and take down. Stores in a very small bag. I also had the problem with one of my screws on the side. The screw just wouldn't bite, but it hasn't caused any problems. I installed mine while the pop-top was off which made it really, really easy. Adds a LOT of storage to the van and turns the luggage carrier into a really nice, dry vestibule. With my 10' Fiamma, my Kelty medium Carport over the back hatch and the Wasser-Stopper I'm ready for anything...rain or shine!
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PostPosted: Mon Aug 30, 2010 7:04 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I have this fly on my 91 Syncro Westy.
I really appreciate the fit.
I use insulation between the stock top and the fly.
Keeps the AC and heat in while camping.
Sweet.

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PostPosted: Mon Aug 30, 2010 7:11 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Can you leave the Wasser Stopper on when you put the top down. Or is it a reinstall each time you need it. I'm thinking it would be handy, if you expected rain, to have it ready to just snug down on the bottom on arrival at your campspot.

On the Kelty carport issue. Taking that thing down and apart in the rain has got to leave you with a large, dirty, wet, mass of fabric. Am I wrong?

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PostPosted: Mon Aug 30, 2010 9:25 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I have yet to put it up in weather, but if you pop the top up, use stick provided and unzip the screen up front to make the 5 snaps, I think that you could do it without a whole lot of hassle and wetness. Thought the velcro connection in the rear would be destroyed in short order as it goes over the rear hinges and there is no way that it could take that kind of abuse.


It is a nice system, and for the price, I think very good value.


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PostPosted: Mon Aug 30, 2010 9:38 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

If you add a pair of Jack ombays pop top shocks you can ditch the little bar provided to hold the top up - the shocks will hold the top wherever you want. And no, I wouldn't attempt to leave it in place, though i imagine it might be possible if one were to undo the front and rear closures and tucked everything well. Seems like more hassle than simply throwing it on honestly.
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PostPosted: Tue Aug 31, 2010 5:41 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

redcanoe wrote:
On the Kelty carport issue. Taking that thing down and apart in the rain has got to leave you with a large, dirty, wet, mass of fabric. Am I wrong?


It's really no different than taking down a small size wet tent. I just shake it out and shove it into its bag, wet or dry.

The medium size Kelty Carport fits perfectly over the rear of the vehicle and the hatch can be opened and closed with it on. I replaced two of my pop top hinge bolts with eye bolts so that it could be securely attached to the vehicle with straps. Works perfect. The Medium Kelty Carport (the Medium Deluxe Kelty Carport is different) has been discontinued. However, if you do an internet search you can still find NOS on closeout. Well worth the money if you want a nice awning over the back of the vehicle.
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PostPosted: Fri Jan 07, 2011 10:22 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

the big brown truck dropped mine off today. have to wait for a little bit nicer weather for the install. as I have a Westfauxlia,the install may be trickier than others.
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PostPosted: Fri Jan 07, 2011 12:08 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Has anyone here ever checked the inside temperature with a Wasser Stopper and then without? I think I'll get one regardless but was just curious.
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PostPosted: Fri Jan 07, 2011 12:11 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I like mine too.

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PostPosted: Fri Jan 07, 2011 1:19 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

wallanoise wrote:
Has anyone here ever checked the inside temperature with a Wasser Stopper and then without? I think I'll get one regardless but was just curious.
Thanks.


I've not checked the actual temp difference, but I can tell you it definitely stops the cold air draft issue and, therefore, I'd presume it keeps the upper bunk area a bit warmer on cold nights.

I should note that I don't have GW's nor Fancher's fly; I made my own because I wanted both a rain fly that covered the luggage bin and a sun shade without having to haul around two separate products. Plus, I saved some money too. Pics of it are on the blog.
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PostPosted: Fri Jan 07, 2011 3:18 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

It appears that your "rainfly" is made out of canvas. Aren't you worried about it getting soaked in bad weather?
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PostPosted: Fri Jan 07, 2011 6:02 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

wallanoise wrote:
It appears that your "rainfly" is made out of canvas. Aren't you worried about it getting soaked in bad weather?


Mine? It's polyester and has a water-resistant coating on it. Water just beads right off it. Wink
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PostPosted: Fri Jan 07, 2011 6:25 pm    Post subject: rainfly Reply with quote

We definitely noticed it warmer in the top with the rainfly on. When it gets warmer I just unhook it at the rear and tuck it up front for more airflow.

I am looking forward to the shocks next season for both the fly and rooftop box. We multi night camped last summer with the need for the fly most nights. It was easier than I anticipated taking off and setting up each day. We were at a sight which required us to move the van most days either for wood, food, beer or ice. The insulation kit might be a consideration as well....I just think it's neat!

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PostPosted: Fri Jan 07, 2011 8:34 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I did notice that it was much warmer/dryer in the westy when the rainfly was on.
This past fall, I did some camping at a State Park that has electrical hook ups.
I brought my small electric heater with me and had it running throughout the day as
well as night. I think that the rainfly helped with the heater shutting down once it
reached the desired twmperature. I'm sure had I had Franchers pop top insulation
it would have cycled less, but without the RF I'm sure that little heater would have
ran around the clock. The only thing that I don't like about the RF is putting it up
in the rain, other than that it's a must have item.
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