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PostPosted: Sun Aug 29, 2010 8:54 pm    Post subject: collapsible pushrod tubes Reply with quote

What sort of success is being had with replacing pushrod tubes with the collapsible type. I had to replace one of the stock tubes. Two shops have each had a try (2 tubes and installs) and both times an oil leak has developed at the telescoping part shortly after. I'd like to stop this leak but hesitate to try a third ($$)......but the only alternative is to pull the head.

Third time lucky ?
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PostPosted: Sun Aug 29, 2010 9:26 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Replaced all 8 tubes with collapsible 4 years ago and haven't seen a leak since.
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PostPosted: Mon Aug 30, 2010 7:09 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I only use the collaspe type tubes on my boxers.
No issues at all over the years.

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PostPosted: Mon Aug 30, 2010 3:05 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Never had a problem with good quality tubes Smile
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PostPosted: Mon Aug 30, 2010 5:40 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I'm satisfied with mine, over a yr now. Don't try the cheap(made only, not the price) ones ,they all leak. Use at least double o ringed ones.
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PostPosted: Mon Aug 30, 2010 6:10 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Mine only leaked when I accidentally pinched one of those white rubber seals... and be sure you're applying a film of oil on the mating surfaces before installation.
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PostPosted: Mon Aug 30, 2010 6:55 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I've had a set of Jay Cee's in one of my vans now for well over a year with not a drop of oil to be seen. They are type 1 tubes, but are installed backwards in a WBX.

And they do look the deal!

http://www.cbperformance.com/catalog.asp?ProductID=1395
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PostPosted: Mon Aug 30, 2010 7:03 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Well that is good news. Collapsibles can indeed work. Bad news is that after two "pro" attempts I'm still leaking. One said "oh well" when I called about continued leak. I'm in Canada and do believe that the tubes used were "vw" ( read here once that those are "guaranteed to leak"). The third shop I'm experimenting with will get a shot at this, along with a timesert, next month. I will check on what brand they are using. cb performance seems to get thumbs up on theSamba.

Further input always welcome and I'll keep you posted.

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PostPosted: Tue Aug 31, 2010 2:16 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I replaced my push rod tubes myself, no leaks. I did smear a little high heat sealing compound around the ends. Just be real careful you have the push rods seated in the lifters before bolting up.
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PostPosted: Tue Aug 31, 2010 4:38 pm    Post subject: Re: collapsible pushrod tubes Reply with quote

I had 2 PRTs replaced at Hogg's on the Malahat a few months ago, no leaks so far and he only charged my $65 hour and I believe he doesn't have a problem with you bringing in your own parts.
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PostPosted: Sat Oct 08, 2011 9:34 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

My WBX is still running its original tubes, and the van is easily the least drippy vehicle in my fleet. I've never used the spring-loaded tubes, but I really like them in theory.
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PostPosted: Sat Oct 08, 2011 9:48 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

A vote for the Van Cafe collapsible tubes. Multiple O rings, easy to figure out and easy to use. No leaks. I used grease to seat the seals as others pointed out, and while installing I carefully hand pushed each end into its seat, and rotated a bit to help fully seat. I suspect if you simply let the spring pressure (mild) do the seating it may not end up with proper seal pressure. In other words, just a small amount of care in install - as if its your own vehicle, for instance - and they work fine.

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PostPosted: Fri Apr 04, 2014 12:59 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Aloha all!

I just came across this thread in my quest for push rod tubes for a 2.1L WBX.

The CB performance link is dead, but I found these and would ike your opinion:

http://www.cbperformance.com/ProductDetails.asp?ProductCode=1558
These are apparently collapsible, but not on spring but rather with 2 nuts on them. I like the idea but is that good? And also, does it fit the vanagon ? (I read above that cloopasible spring tubes fit backwards…)

Also, will these fit as well?
http://www.cbperformance.com/ProductDetails.asp?ProductCode=1515
I think they are the ones mentioned earlier in this thread.

Thank you very mucho Wink
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PostPosted: Fri Apr 04, 2014 8:17 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

ALIKA T3 wrote:
Aloha all!

I just came across this thread in my quest for push rod tubes for a 2.1L WBX.

The CB performance link is dead, but I found these and would ike your opinion:

http://www.cbperformance.com/ProductDetails.asp?ProductCode=1558
These are apparently collapsible, but not on spring but rather with 2 nuts on them. I like the idea but is that good? And also, does it fit the vanagon ? (I read above that cloopasible spring tubes fit backwards…)

Also, will these fit as well?
http://www.cbperformance.com/ProductDetails.asp?ProductCode=1515
I think they are the ones mentioned earlier in this thread.

Thank you very mucho Wink


I would love to hear some feedback on the aluminum ones.
New to me.

Thanks Alika Wink
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PostPosted: Fri Apr 04, 2014 9:11 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

There is a lot of info out there on Jaycee pushrod tubes. They are the highest quality out there.
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PostPosted: Fri Apr 04, 2014 9:14 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Steve Arndt wrote:
There is a lot of info out there on Jaycee pushrod tubes. They are the highest quality out there.


Do they aluminum ones fit a 2.1 WBX?
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PostPosted: Fri Apr 04, 2014 10:12 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

insyncro wrote:
Steve Arndt wrote:
There is a lot of info out there on Jaycee pushrod tubes. They are the highest quality out there.


Do they aluminum ones fit a 2.1 WBX?


Yes, I'd like to know that too Smile

I know about the quality, that's why I wanna buy them,even if a little trimming is required.
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PostPosted: Fri Apr 04, 2014 10:19 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

ALIKA T3 wrote:
insyncro wrote:
Steve Arndt wrote:
There is a lot of info out there on Jaycee pushrod tubes. They are the highest quality out there.


Do they aluminum ones fit a 2.1 WBX?


Yes, I'd like to know that too Smile

I know about the quality, that's why I wanna buy them,even if a little trimming is required.


They look like they are too large in diameter, but I'm only going by the picture.
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PostPosted: Fri Apr 04, 2014 10:21 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I looked at the push rod seal 113109345A

And they fit:

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Although this part number is also given for a Vanagon only : 070109345

From the picture,just the outer edge of the seal differs, so I believe the push rods are the same diameter. The aluminum tube with the nuts should fit if there is enough thread to adjust. The length from Aircooled to watercooled must not differ much, does it?
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PostPosted: Fri Apr 04, 2014 10:23 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

insyncro wrote:
ALIKA T3 wrote:
insyncro wrote:
Steve Arndt wrote:
There is a lot of info out there on Jaycee pushrod tubes. They are the highest quality out there.


Do they aluminum ones fit a 2.1 WBX?


Yes, I'd like to know that too Smile

I know about the quality, that's why I wanna buy them,even if a little trimming is required.


They look like they are too large in diameter, but I'm only going by the picture.


I didn't think about that… I never tore a VW WBX apart before Confused
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