Hello! Log in or Register   |  Help  |  Donate  |  Buy Shirts  See all banner ads | Advertise on TheSamba.com  
TheSamba.com
 
It's a Thing come true!
Page: 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, 8  Next
Forum Index -> Thing/Type 181 Share: Facebook Twitter
Reply to topic
Print View
Quick sort: Show newest posts on top | Show oldest posts on top View previous topic :: View next topic  
Author Message
sjhotz
Samba Member


Joined: May 12, 2007
Posts: 462

sjhotz is offline 

PostPosted: Mon Jul 29, 2019 4:55 pm    Post subject: Re: It's a Thing come true! Reply with quote

Hello all,

My apologies on the recent radio silence, there have been some awesome new changes in my life.

After long years of searching I have finally found a Home and the time to truly enjoy my VW / Camping lifestyle. I'm now in Southwestern WA (about an hour north of Portland/Vancouver), semi retired with a busload (swidt!) of time and more than enough space to work (after cleaning up some crap from the previous owner, which i'm currently in the middle of heh, whoo what a mess).

One of my intended purposes is to make this property a welcome spot for us all. A VW Homely House of the West, you will have to forgive my shameless Tolkien reference, but it does summon to mind the sense of warmth and welcome I wish to impart to any who visit here.

On to the update!

Due do the rushed nature of my recent move, I had to do a fast (as in 2 hour) install of the axle's, carbs, fan shroud, generator & exhaust prior to the move. As such was the case, I'm not confidant with how everything is lining up, the accelerator cable is exiting my new shroud too high for my new dual carb linkage and doesn't return properly without an insanely strong spring. I also have found a fuel leak near the passenger carb accelerator pump (hopefully it's a bad fuel line connection and not the accelerator pump itself).

Time to clear space in the garage (and organize a ton of crap) to pull the engine and put her back together the right way!

Ahhhh, it's good to be back Cool.
-sjhotz
_________________
BAY PRIDE!

74 Thing
72 Bay Window Westy TinTop
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message Gallery Classifieds Feedback
Buggeee
Samba Member


Joined: December 22, 2016
Posts: 2123
Location: Stuck in Ohio
Buggeee is offline 

PostPosted: Fri Mar 23, 2018 6:49 am    Post subject: Re: It's a Thing come true! Reply with quote

sjhotz wrote:
Hey Gang! Just gotta run fuel lines and install carbs.!

Got a question first. The fuel vapor hose that goes from the side of the fan shroud thru the firewall and to the canister mounted behind the passenger rear is brittle as heck and I'm replacing it. I see the small fuel vapor line that I assume comes from the gas tank, and the larger hose from the fan shroud/firewall. There is a third larger hose that exits opposite side of canister and heads back toward the firewall but then just dead ends, not connected to anything. Am I just venting fuel vapor to the area behind the firewall, and is that dangerous?

My thanks all,
-sjhotz


This one goes to the air-cleaner on the carb(s) so the engine sucks up and combusts the fuel vapor that evaporates from the charcoal canister.

Edit: Since you are running duals, I have seen people plug into just the passenger side air-cleaner. If you are interested here is a link to the page of my thread where I monkeyed something together to use both carbs. https://www.thesamba.com/vw/forum/viewtopic.php?t=...;start=140
_________________
Rebuilt Salvage
Everybody hates my Air-Cooled Vanagon https://www.thesamba.com/vw/forum/viewtopic.php?p=8916982#8916982
The Bug http://www.thesamba.com/vw/forum/viewtopic.php?t=672387
The Bug House http://www.fiberglassrv.com/forums/f56/buggeees-1973-playpac-build-thread-80903.html
The Minion's Bug https://www.thesamba.com/vw/forum/viewtopic.php?t=690801
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message Gallery Classifieds Feedback
sjhotz
Samba Member


Joined: May 12, 2007
Posts: 462

sjhotz is offline 

PostPosted: Thu Mar 15, 2018 3:53 pm    Post subject: Re: It's a Thing come true! Reply with quote

Hey Gang! Just gotta run fuel lines and install carbs.!

Got a question first. The fuel vapor hose that goes from the side of the fan shroud thru the firewall and to the canister mounted behind the passenger rear is brittle as heck and I'm replacing it. I see the small fuel vapor line that I assume comes from the gas tank, and the larger hose from the fan shroud/firewall. There is a third larger hose that exits opposite side of canister and heads back toward the firewall but then just dead ends, not connected to anything. Am I just venting fuel vapor to the area behind the firewall, and is that dangerous?

My thanks all,
-sjhotz
_________________
BAY PRIDE!

74 Thing
72 Bay Window Westy TinTop
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message Gallery Classifieds Feedback
sjhotz
Samba Member


Joined: May 12, 2007
Posts: 462

sjhotz is offline 

PostPosted: Thu Mar 08, 2018 10:11 pm    Post subject: Re: It's a Thing come true! Reply with quote

Update time!
- fuel lines with "T" and filters for dual carbs (pressure gauge?) Purchased, Ready to Install
- Dual Carbs Ready to Install
- Carb Studs & Nuts Purchased, Ready to Install
- fresh air hose (the galvanized flexible steel tubing you see sitting on the bumper) Done! (galvanized was not flexable enough to get past muffler, had to use aluminum)
- attach Heater hose cables. Done!
- attach accelerator cable Done!
- attache thermostat and mount Done!
- Exhaust manifold Done!
- New breather hose (both pieces and i'll probably need an adapter as the fan shroud outlet is in a different spot) Purchased, Ready to Install, just need adapter to mate hose ends

Left To Do:
- Get an adapter to mate to two charcoal canister hoses (old one coming thru firewall is stiff and won't bend to new outlet on Later year Fan shroud, so some new hose and an adapter should solve that problem)
- Route fuel lines with filters and secure them
- Secure balance tubing

- Install Carbs
Ok stupid question time, I am installing rebuilt Kadron's from what I can see there is absolutely no difference between the two. Is there a Driver Side and Passenger Side Carb or are they interchangeable?
_________________
BAY PRIDE!

74 Thing
72 Bay Window Westy TinTop
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message Gallery Classifieds Feedback
Buggeee
Samba Member


Joined: December 22, 2016
Posts: 2123
Location: Stuck in Ohio
Buggeee is offline 

PostPosted: Tue Mar 06, 2018 1:17 pm    Post subject: Re: It's a Thing come true! Reply with quote

sjhotz wrote:
Update!

Engine Back in!

Todo:
- fuel lines with "T" and filters for dual carbs (pressure gauge?)
- Dual Carbs

Awesome! Can almost hear it running.

I put a Holley fuel pressure regulator on my dual EPC 34 carbs. Here's a link to that page of my build if you want to see what was involved. https://www.thesamba.com/vw/forum/viewtopic.php?t=...;start=120

In the beetle threads they are always harping on people for having a fuel filter in the engine compartment (fires or something) so I put mine down by the transmission where the gas line comes out of the body.
_________________
Rebuilt Salvage
Everybody hates my Air-Cooled Vanagon https://www.thesamba.com/vw/forum/viewtopic.php?p=8916982#8916982
The Bug http://www.thesamba.com/vw/forum/viewtopic.php?t=672387
The Bug House http://www.fiberglassrv.com/forums/f56/buggeees-1973-playpac-build-thread-80903.html
The Minion's Bug https://www.thesamba.com/vw/forum/viewtopic.php?t=690801
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message Gallery Classifieds Feedback
sjhotz
Samba Member


Joined: May 12, 2007
Posts: 462

sjhotz is offline 

PostPosted: Tue Mar 06, 2018 1:09 am    Post subject: Re: It's a Thing come true! Reply with quote

Update!

Cooling Flaps in!

Image may have been reduced in size. Click image to view fullscreen.


Engine Back in!

Image may have been reduced in size. Click image to view fullscreen.


Todo:
- fuel lines with "T" and filters for dual carbs (pressure gauge?)
- Dual Carbs
- fresh air hose (the galvanized flexible steel tubing you see sitting on the bumper)
- attach Heater hose cables.
- attach accelerator cable
- attache thermostat and mount
- Exhaust manifold
- New breather hose (both pieces and i'll probably need an adapter as the fan shroud outlet is in a different spot)

Hope to have it all done by Friday!
-sjhotz
_________________
BAY PRIDE!

74 Thing
72 Bay Window Westy TinTop
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message Gallery Classifieds Feedback
Buggeee
Samba Member


Joined: December 22, 2016
Posts: 2123
Location: Stuck in Ohio
Buggeee is offline 

PostPosted: Mon Feb 26, 2018 12:01 pm    Post subject: Re: It's a Thing come true! Reply with quote

sjhotz wrote:
Is the thermostat supposed to be under the passenger side or driver side cylinders?


Looks good. Thermostat is under passenger side cylinders, here's how it looks with the rod:


Image may have been reduced in size. Click image to view fullscreen.



The cross bar will have to come off as you drop it onto the engine over the oil cooler and then you can put it right back on.

I hooked the spring to the little hole in the corner of the doghouse as so:


Image may have been reduced in size. Click image to view fullscreen.

_________________
Rebuilt Salvage
Everybody hates my Air-Cooled Vanagon https://www.thesamba.com/vw/forum/viewtopic.php?p=8916982#8916982
The Bug http://www.thesamba.com/vw/forum/viewtopic.php?t=672387
The Bug House http://www.fiberglassrv.com/forums/f56/buggeees-1973-playpac-build-thread-80903.html
The Minion's Bug https://www.thesamba.com/vw/forum/viewtopic.php?t=690801
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message Gallery Classifieds Feedback
sjhotz
Samba Member


Joined: May 12, 2007
Posts: 462

sjhotz is offline 

PostPosted: Sun Feb 25, 2018 9:02 pm    Post subject: Re: It's a Thing come true! Reply with quote

Cooling Flaps installed!

My sincere thanks to both bugguy1967 and rockerarm! Between the two of them I now have a complete set of working cooling flaps!

Image may have been reduced in size. Click image to view fullscreen.


Do I have them installed correctly? Is the thermostat supposed to be under the passenger side or driver side cylinders?

-sjhotz
_________________
BAY PRIDE!

74 Thing
72 Bay Window Westy TinTop
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message Gallery Classifieds Feedback
sjhotz
Samba Member


Joined: May 12, 2007
Posts: 462

sjhotz is offline 

PostPosted: Tue Feb 20, 2018 11:46 pm    Post subject: Re: It's a Thing come true! Reply with quote

Cooling flaps and thermostat locally sourced!

Thanks to rockerarm's eagle eye I managed to pickup a set nearby and met a very cool fellow VW enthusiast who build's his own engines (bugguy1967).

This is what I love about VW's, the random cool people I am fortunate enough to meet in my daily dealings.

The flaps and thermostat are in very good condition and just need a few minor parts along with some cleanup. I Hope to have the missing pieces sourced/fabed by this weekend so I can complete the install!
_________________
BAY PRIDE!

74 Thing
72 Bay Window Westy TinTop
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message Gallery Classifieds Feedback
sjhotz
Samba Member


Joined: May 12, 2007
Posts: 462

sjhotz is offline 

PostPosted: Fri Feb 16, 2018 4:17 pm    Post subject: Re: It's a Thing come true! Reply with quote

Manifolds sorted out and ready to go! Turns out the tapping from the factory was crap, just re-tapped at the proper 27 thread depth and tada! Hose connections went right in and seated like a champ!

Gonna pause the install here and follow all the good advice and source some quality thermostat flaps and associated parts. Seems worth the effort for general engine longevity and since it's already out....

I'll update you all once the flaps are sourced and installed!

-sjhotz
_________________
BAY PRIDE!

74 Thing
72 Bay Window Westy TinTop
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message Gallery Classifieds Feedback
sjhotz
Samba Member


Joined: May 12, 2007
Posts: 462

sjhotz is offline 

PostPosted: Sat Feb 10, 2018 9:05 pm    Post subject: Re: It's a Thing come true! Reply with quote

Right Rear Air Deflector now properly installed without any trimming or bending required!

Decided to install manifolds prior to engine install and hit a small roadblock. Both Manifolds have holes drilled for balance tube barbs. The Empi part called for is 00-9212-0 (3/8" Thread NPT Male x 1/2 Inch Barb) of course the Kit i bought came with the wrong size threads (5/16) and I was only able to locate 1/8" MIP x 1/2" Barb at the local hardware store which of course won't work at all.

Beginning to wonder if it would be easier to re-tap the damn manifolds than attempt to find these and delay another damn week over a stupid balance tube.

Of course all the local VW shops are closed by me and the local auto parts stores aren't any help. I hate Sunday's now, it's my VW repair Black Hole day.
_________________
BAY PRIDE!

74 Thing
72 Bay Window Westy TinTop
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message Gallery Classifieds Feedback
oldschool5er
Samba Member


Joined: May 28, 2007
Posts: 697
Location: Ohio
oldschool5er is offline 

PostPosted: Fri Feb 09, 2018 8:12 am    Post subject: Re: It's a Thing come true! Reply with quote

sjhotz wrote:


Thank you for the ball joint & shock tower advice, ball joints should be easy enough, i'm clueless how I go about fixing the shock tower though. I can only assume I remove the beam and use a press somehow?

Thanks,
-sjhotz


If your adventurous and dont want to pull the beam, you might be able to loop a chain around the beam and a floor jack then use a long 1.5 or 2" pipe to jack the pipe up into the tower shock support and push it back in a more reasonable shape. I do think once you straighten it out you will have to weld the seam though. If you are removing the arms to replace the ball joints then removing the beam is not that much further so maybe not even try jacking it back.
_________________
HRE in Westerville,Ohio

Full machine shop with all types of CNC. Rapid prototyping available, CNC Plasma cutting, 3D printing and Laser engraving.
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message Send e-mail Gallery Classifieds Feedback
sjhotz
Samba Member


Joined: May 12, 2007
Posts: 462

sjhotz is offline 

PostPosted: Thu Feb 08, 2018 10:37 pm    Post subject: Re: It's a Thing come true! Reply with quote

Thanks oldschool5er,

I've actually got all the bottom tin now aside from the 2 large pieces of the case skid.

Thank you for the ball joint & shock tower advice, ball joints should be easy enough, i'm clueless how I go about fixing the shock tower though. I can only assume I remove the beam and use a press somehow?

Thanks,
-sjhotz
_________________
BAY PRIDE!

74 Thing
72 Bay Window Westy TinTop
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message Gallery Classifieds Feedback
oldschool5er
Samba Member


Joined: May 28, 2007
Posts: 697
Location: Ohio
oldschool5er is offline 

PostPosted: Thu Feb 08, 2018 10:45 am    Post subject: Re: It's a Thing come true! Reply with quote

Ok I can address some of this. I read through most of the thread but might have missed if these were answered. You are missing all of the stock thing tins and bottom engine case skid it looks like. On the vibration and alignment most likely it is worn ball joints and your damaged shock tower with the stem top not secure. The reason the shock tower is bent that way is because somebody was taking it off a trailer and jacked that side tire to the point it pulled down on the shock, and they didn't stop. Maybe a front drum was locked up and they had to drag it off. This only happens when your pulling the car backwards and the tire gets skewed and somebody didn't stop pulling. I have experianced this myself. I doubt very seriously the beam is bent as it even has the beam supports still attach. Easy repair on the tower, new shocks and new ball joints and I bet your allignment woes disapear. Thing beams are built to take abuse and the car looks to have never been in a wreck or the original beam removed so being bent I don't think is in the picture. Because of the way it jacked the tire I would also look at tierod ends. Here is a skid plate link.
http://www.thingparts.com/engine-skid-plate-set-4-pieces/
_________________
HRE in Westerville,Ohio

Full machine shop with all types of CNC. Rapid prototyping available, CNC Plasma cutting, 3D printing and Laser engraving.
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message Send e-mail Gallery Classifieds Feedback
Buggeee
Samba Member


Joined: December 22, 2016
Posts: 2123
Location: Stuck in Ohio
Buggeee is offline 

PostPosted: Thu Feb 08, 2018 9:09 am    Post subject: Re: It's a Thing come true! Reply with quote

sjhotz wrote:
Hey Gang!

Managed to get the missing tin but am having trouble installing. I have tried virtually everything but cannot get it around the Oil Filler down-tube. Am I correct in assuming I must remove the oil filler and the down-tube to successfully install the right rear air deflector tin?

-sjhotz


It's possible. My oil filler tube was not in yet when I installed that part so I do not have a direct answer to that question. However, might the difficulty be in the replacement piece itself? I was banging my head on the tin phase until someone told be the aftermarket is sloppy with tolerances so mix and match takes some minor fabrication. On that particular piece, the rear deflector was OG but the cylinder shrouds were aftermarket cheapos, throwing it off a bit. I massaged it by trimming the right/passenger leg of it a bit with tin-snips and curling it down with some vicegrip pliers.

This piece before:

Image may have been reduced in size. Click image to view fullscreen.


This took a lot of trial and error, putting it together and taking it apart, trimming some more, bumping that a bit, etc. More like sculpting than assembling.

This piece after:

Image may have been reduced in size. Click image to view fullscreen.

_________________
Rebuilt Salvage
Everybody hates my Air-Cooled Vanagon https://www.thesamba.com/vw/forum/viewtopic.php?p=8916982#8916982
The Bug http://www.thesamba.com/vw/forum/viewtopic.php?t=672387
The Bug House http://www.fiberglassrv.com/forums/f56/buggeees-1973-playpac-build-thread-80903.html
The Minion's Bug https://www.thesamba.com/vw/forum/viewtopic.php?t=690801
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message Gallery Classifieds Feedback
sjhotz
Samba Member


Joined: May 12, 2007
Posts: 462

sjhotz is offline 

PostPosted: Wed Feb 07, 2018 10:43 pm    Post subject: Re: It's a Thing come true! Reply with quote

Hey Gang!

Managed to get the missing tin but am having trouble installing. I have tried virtually everything but cannot get it around the Oil Filler down-tube. Am I correct in assuming I must remove the oil filler and the down-tube to successfully install the right rear air deflector tin?

-sjhotz
_________________
BAY PRIDE!

74 Thing
72 Bay Window Westy TinTop
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message Gallery Classifieds Feedback
sjhotz
Samba Member


Joined: May 12, 2007
Posts: 462

sjhotz is offline 

PostPosted: Mon Feb 05, 2018 7:12 pm    Post subject: Re: It's a Thing come true! Reply with quote

Thank you Buggeee!!

Headed to Lowe's now!

-sjhotz
_________________
BAY PRIDE!

74 Thing
72 Bay Window Westy TinTop
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message Gallery Classifieds Feedback
Buggeee
Samba Member


Joined: December 22, 2016
Posts: 2123
Location: Stuck in Ohio
Buggeee is offline 

PostPosted: Mon Feb 05, 2018 11:03 am    Post subject: Re: It's a Thing come true! Reply with quote

sjhotz wrote:
I do have the hoover bit installed but am worried about a small gap in the outer corner that the hoover bit does'nt seem to fill (almost defeats the purpose in my opinion). I considered some sort of metal corner piece pop riveted in.

When you refer to weather stripping where exactly did you place it?

-sjhotz


I knew that build thread would come in handy!!! And now, for some selected readings of Buggeee's 1972 Super Beetle. Lol

Buggeee wrote:


The brown stuff on the side of the cooler was not rust like I had been thinking, but just glue residue. So I figure there must have been foam glued on there to seal up the space around the cooler in the tin that slides over it. I found some in my workshop that seems the right size and now I know why I kept it. I don't know what it was for but I think I was going to use it under a car-top carrier or something. It seems sturdy. If I smell something melting I'll know where to look.

Image may have been reduced in size. Click image to view fullscreen.


Image may have been reduced in size. Click image to view fullscreen.


Image may have been reduced in size. Click image to view fullscreen.




Buggeee wrote:


And to think this was made necessary by you kind folks pointing out that I needed a piece of foam on my Hoover Bit and a twist to my generator orientation. Thanks alot Bnam and Rome! At least I'm not ending up in one of those "whats wrong with this picture" threads. Yet, anyway. Here you go Bnam, this one's for you:

Image may have been reduced in size. Click image to view fullscreen.


Buggeee wrote:

Ok so with some more of the left over car top carrier foam, I sealed up the exit slide for the hot oil cooler air, keeping it outside of the engine compartment where it belongs.

Image may have been reduced in size. Click image to view fullscreen.


Image may have been reduced in size. Click image to view fullscreen.


Then I used some automotive rubber foam that is found for inexplicable reasons in the Lowe's house insulation aisle.

Image may have been reduced in size. Click image to view fullscreen.


This stuff is great. Super sticky on the glue side, smooth on the other side, and firm but squishy like memory foam. It wants to return to its shape but is satisfied getting smashed almost flat in spots where it can't, filling any and all gaps. I put it on the air-turn thing that leads from the oil cooler to the little spigot that slides the air out the back.

Image may have been reduced in size. Click image to view fullscreen.


And voila! A sealed airway. It feels really good to look at this - and it all disassembles readily and right back into position again (ask me how I know Wink)

Image may have been reduced in size. Click image to view fullscreen.


Its a bit OCD I know, but it didn't melt all summer long. I saw threads with people using duct tape and metal HVAC tape too, but that seemed so messy, especially when you tear back into it again.

That is a really cool looking muffler btw.
_________________
Rebuilt Salvage
Everybody hates my Air-Cooled Vanagon https://www.thesamba.com/vw/forum/viewtopic.php?p=8916982#8916982
The Bug http://www.thesamba.com/vw/forum/viewtopic.php?t=672387
The Bug House http://www.fiberglassrv.com/forums/f56/buggeees-1973-playpac-build-thread-80903.html
The Minion's Bug https://www.thesamba.com/vw/forum/viewtopic.php?t=690801
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message Gallery Classifieds Feedback
sjhotz
Samba Member


Joined: May 12, 2007
Posts: 462

sjhotz is offline 

PostPosted: Sun Feb 04, 2018 10:20 pm    Post subject: Re: It's a Thing come true! Reply with quote

I do have the hoover bit installed but am worried about a small gap in the outer corner that the hoover bit does'nt seem to fill (almost defeats the purpose in my opinion). I considered some sort of metal corner piece pop riveted in.

When you refer to weather stripping where exactly did you place it?

-sjhotz
_________________
BAY PRIDE!

74 Thing
72 Bay Window Westy TinTop
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message Gallery Classifieds Feedback
Buggeee
Samba Member


Joined: December 22, 2016
Posts: 2123
Location: Stuck in Ohio
Buggeee is offline 

PostPosted: Sun Feb 04, 2018 6:37 pm    Post subject: Re: It's a Thing come true! Reply with quote

sjhotz wrote:

Image may have been reduced in size. Click image to view fullscreen.

Just missing the back 1/2 of the expanded dog house cooling tin which is on it's way from Awesome Powdercoat now (they do some really nice work, my compliments gentlemen). As soon as that arrives i'm off to the races!


Do you have the Hoover Bit in there at the bottom of the oil cooler? Did you put a piece of weatherstripping foam on it? Nows the time Smile (ask me how I know Wink )
_________________
Rebuilt Salvage
Everybody hates my Air-Cooled Vanagon https://www.thesamba.com/vw/forum/viewtopic.php?p=8916982#8916982
The Bug http://www.thesamba.com/vw/forum/viewtopic.php?t=672387
The Bug House http://www.fiberglassrv.com/forums/f56/buggeees-1973-playpac-build-thread-80903.html
The Minion's Bug https://www.thesamba.com/vw/forum/viewtopic.php?t=690801
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message Gallery Classifieds Feedback
Display posts from previous:   
Reply to topic    Forum Index -> Thing/Type 181 All times are Mountain Standard Time/Pacific Daylight Savings Time
Page: 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, 8  Next
Page 1 of 8

 
Jump to:  
You cannot post new topics in this forum
You cannot reply to topics in this forum
You cannot edit your posts in this forum
You cannot delete your posts in this forum
You cannot vote in polls in this forum

About | Help! | Advertise | Donate | Premium Membership | Privacy/Terms of Use | Contact Us | Site Map
Copyright © 1996-2018, Everett Barnes. All Rights Reserved.
Not affiliated with or sponsored by Volkswagen of America | Forum powered by phpBB