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Suboval Samba Member

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Posted: Wed Sep 22, 2010 10:16 am Post subject: Jacks – a general guide line |
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All dates are approximate.
There are several changeover years.
Some years have multiple types.
Beetle:
1950-53 There are two versions of the Split jack.
For jack crank handles - see This Thread
Early version - VIGOT/BILSTEIN, 3 prong:
Later version - VIGOT/BILSTEIN, fat base:
The bottom is the same as what is on early bus jacks - left and middle picture:
Do not confuse it with a Porsche 356 jack – arm pointing downward.
1953-55 Bilstein and Vigot on the base. No cupped end for rod.
1956-57 Bilstein only on the base. No cupped end for rod.
1957-65 Notice cupped end for rod. Two types.
Standard:
Dished:
1965-69 Two types.
Missing rubber piece.
1969-72 Two types.
Missing rubber piece.
1972-79 Base changed to the later style.
Missing rubber piece.
Bus:
55-57 Vigot
The head should be black also.
58-61 Bilstein
62-63 Bilstein. Base changed to the later style.
64-early Bay Bilstein, later design with square head
64-67 Split Bus on top, Early Bay window Bus on bottom
Bay Window jacks, late early Bay Window on top, earlier early Bay Window on bottom:
55 -57, 58-61, 62-63
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john7 Samba Member
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Posted: Wed Sep 22, 2010 10:37 am Post subject: |
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what about this jack that vw switched to in 1972 for bugs.
they even added a special bracket next to the battery to hold it that year
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virtanen Samba Member

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Posted: Wed Sep 22, 2010 10:58 am Post subject: |
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Beetle factory progressive refinements says: 19.3.1952, chassis 1-0336561, new jack type "Klettermaxe".
Should this mean the first generation ended then?
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splitjunkie Samba Member

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Posted: Wed Sep 22, 2010 11:38 am Post subject: |
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I would have to disagree with you on the style of jack you listed as '74-'79.
This page from a '72 manual clearly shows what you refer to as a '74-'79 jack. It has the stamped foot.
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johnshenry Samba Member

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Posted: Wed Sep 22, 2010 11:38 am Post subject: |
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Good stuff Kurt, thanks... _________________ John Henry
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Suboval Samba Member

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Posted: Wed Sep 22, 2010 12:34 pm Post subject: |
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splitjunkie wrote: |
I would have to disagree with you on the style of jack you listed as '74-'79.
This page from a '72 manual clearly shows what you refer to as a '74-'79 jack. It has the stamped foot.
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Suboval Samba Member

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Posted: Wed Sep 22, 2010 12:41 pm Post subject: |
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virtanen wrote: |
Beetle factory progressive refinements says: 19.3.1952, chassis 1-0336561, new jack type "Klettermaxe".
Should this mean the first generation ended then? |
It means a new type was introduced. There would still be old stock to run thru, etc.
19 mar. 52 Tool kit
Now: jack. type "Klettermaxe "
1 Sept. 58 Tool kit
Now: Casting with hole for
tommy bar on load bracket
operating rod of vehicle jack . _________________ It all works on paper.
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Suboval Samba Member

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Posted: Wed Sep 22, 2010 12:51 pm Post subject: |
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johnshenry wrote: |
Good stuff Kurt, thanks... |
NP. This should help those get a start.
If anyone else has anything to share, please speak up.
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Suboval Samba Member

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john7 wrote: |
what about this jack that vw switched to in 1972 for bugs.
they even added a special bracket next to the battery to hold it that year
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Thanks! Added it to original post too.  _________________ It all works on paper.
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Spanish Flea Samba Member

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Posted: Wed Sep 22, 2010 1:25 pm Post subject: |
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Guys one thing to point out though, those manuals use the same pix over and over. So some of those pictures span over the change of a jack, so those pictures are not to be relied upon.
I found this doing my own research on jacks.
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splitjunkie Samba Member

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Posted: Wed Sep 22, 2010 1:34 pm Post subject: |
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Spanish Flea wrote: |
Guys one thing to point out though, those manuals use the same pix over and over. So some of those pictures span over the change of a jack, so those pictures are not to be relied upon.
I found this doing my own research on jacks.
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Very true. That is why I always look for the first time something new shows up in a manual. Even that does not pin point to when it changed. It is just the first time it shows up in a manual. It is very unreliable to use a manual to determine when some detail changed since they kept reusing the same photo over and over again. _________________ Chris
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Lind Samba Member

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Posted: Thu Sep 30, 2010 6:56 am Post subject: |
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I have six styles of bus jacks. I don't know the exact cutoffs.
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tb03830 Samba Member

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Posted: Thu Sep 30, 2010 7:06 am Post subject: |
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Suboval wrote: |
john7 wrote: |
what about this jack that vw switched to in 1972 for bugs.
they even added a special bracket next to the battery to hold it that year
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Thanks! Added it to original post too.  |
I have a Jack similar to the toob style recommended in the origonal post for my 64 vert. I found that the jack mount in the spare tire well (passengers side) is square and looks likes it fits the above pictured jack. What is it called and were do you find one? Is this wrong or am I just a simpleton and can not figure out the holder for the jack correctly.
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Flyngunny Samba Member

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Posted: Sun Aug 28, 2011 6:49 am Post subject: Re: Jacks – a general guide line |
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1957-65 Notice cupped end for rod. Two types.
Standard:
What do you mean by "cupped end for rod"? I am having a hard time telling the difference. Could you please show me what you mean so that I get the correct one for my 60. _________________ There is no problem which cannot be solved with the proper application of high explosives.
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nlorntson Crazy VW Lady

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Posted: Sun Aug 28, 2011 7:25 am Post subject: |
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He means the little rounded bulge above the area that goes into the jack point. |
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reporsche Banned
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Posted: Wed Sep 14, 2011 2:12 pm Post subject: |
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Can anyone tell what this came from, it has a round jack point but looks different from the other round ones. |
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splitjunkie Samba Member

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Posted: Wed Sep 14, 2011 3:28 pm Post subject: |
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reporsche wrote: |
Can anyone tell what this came from, it has a round jack point but looks different from the other round ones. |
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Kapt. Q Samba Member
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Does anyone have any idea about these two? I don't think they are KDF/VW but I'm not sure. I think one may even be pre-war.
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noheb Samba Member

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Posted: Sat Sep 17, 2011 4:15 pm Post subject: split jaks |
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Here are some more early split jacks...
1940 ? - 1946 (notice round arm). The arm is placed quite higt because it's for a Kübelwagen.
1947 - mid 1949 ?
Mid 1949 - mid 1950 ?
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