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PostPosted: Wed Sep 22, 2010 10:16 am    Post subject: Jacks – a general guide line Reply with quote

All dates are approximate.
There are several changeover years.
Some years have multiple types.

Beetle:
1950-53 There are two versions of the Split jack.
For jack crank handles - see This Thread
Early version - VIGOT/BILSTEIN, 3 prong:
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Later version - VIGOT/BILSTEIN, fat base:
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The bottom is the same as what is on early bus jacks - left and middle picture:
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Do not confuse it with a Porsche 356 jack – arm pointing downward.
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1953-55 Bilstein and Vigot on the base. No cupped end for rod.
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1956-57 Bilstein only on the base. No cupped end for rod.
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1957-65 Notice cupped end for rod. Two types.
Standard:
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Dished:
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1965-69 Two types.
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Missing rubber piece.
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1969-72 Two types.
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Missing rubber piece.
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1972-79 Base changed to the later style.
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Missing rubber piece.
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Bus:
55-57 Vigot
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The head should be black also.

58-61 Bilstein
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62-63 Bilstein. Base changed to the later style.
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64-early Bay Bilstein, later design with square head
64-67 Split Bus on top, Early Bay window Bus on bottom
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Bay Window jacks, late early Bay Window on top, earlier early Bay Window on bottom:
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55 -57, 58-61, 62-63
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PostPosted: Wed Sep 22, 2010 10:37 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

what about this jack that vw switched to in 1972 for bugs.

they even added a special bracket next to the battery to hold it that year

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PostPosted: Wed Sep 22, 2010 10:58 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Beetle factory progressive refinements says: 19.3.1952, chassis 1-0336561, new jack type "Klettermaxe".

Should this mean the first generation ended then?


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PostPosted: Wed Sep 22, 2010 11:38 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I would have to disagree with you on the style of jack you listed as '74-'79.

This page from a '72 manual clearly shows what you refer to as a '74-'79 jack. It has the stamped foot.

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PostPosted: Wed Sep 22, 2010 11:38 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Good stuff Kurt, thanks...
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PostPosted: Wed Sep 22, 2010 12:34 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

splitjunkie wrote:
I would have to disagree with you on the style of jack you listed as '74-'79.

This page from a '72 manual clearly shows what you refer to as a '74-'79 jack. It has the stamped foot.

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Thanks for the info! Smile
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PostPosted: Wed Sep 22, 2010 12:41 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

virtanen wrote:
Beetle factory progressive refinements says: 19.3.1952, chassis 1-0336561, new jack type "Klettermaxe".

Should this mean the first generation ended then?


It means a new type was introduced. There would still be old stock to run thru, etc.

19 mar. 52 Tool kit
Now: jack. type "Klettermaxe "


1 Sept. 58 Tool kit
Now: Casting with hole for
tommy bar on load bracket
operating rod of vehicle jack .
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PostPosted: Wed Sep 22, 2010 12:51 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

johnshenry wrote:
Good stuff Kurt, thanks...


NP. This should help those get a start.

If anyone else has anything to share, please speak up.

Jeff (Spanish Flea), anything you want to add?
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PostPosted: Wed Sep 22, 2010 12:55 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

john7 wrote:
what about this jack that vw switched to in 1972 for bugs.

they even added a special bracket next to the battery to hold it that year

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Thanks! Added it to original post too. Smile
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PostPosted: Wed Sep 22, 2010 1:25 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Guys one thing to point out though, those manuals use the same pix over and over. So some of those pictures span over the change of a jack, so those pictures are not to be relied upon.

I found this doing my own research on jacks.

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PostPosted: Wed Sep 22, 2010 1:34 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Spanish Flea wrote:
Guys one thing to point out though, those manuals use the same pix over and over. So some of those pictures span over the change of a jack, so those pictures are not to be relied upon.

I found this doing my own research on jacks.

Spanish Flea


Very true. That is why I always look for the first time something new shows up in a manual. Even that does not pin point to when it changed. It is just the first time it shows up in a manual. It is very unreliable to use a manual to determine when some detail changed since they kept reusing the same photo over and over again.
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PostPosted: Thu Sep 30, 2010 6:56 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I have six styles of bus jacks. I don't know the exact cutoffs.

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PostPosted: Thu Sep 30, 2010 7:06 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Suboval wrote:
john7 wrote:
what about this jack that vw switched to in 1972 for bugs.

they even added a special bracket next to the battery to hold it that year

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Thanks! Added it to original post too. Smile


I have a Jack similar to the toob style recommended in the origonal post for my 64 vert. I found that the jack mount in the spare tire well (passengers side) is square and looks likes it fits the above pictured jack. What is it called and were do you find one? Is this wrong or am I just a simpleton and can not figure out the holder for the jack correctly.

I also show these as being bus jacks Question
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PostPosted: Sun Aug 28, 2011 6:49 am    Post subject: Re: Jacks – a general guide line Reply with quote

1957-65 Notice cupped end for rod. Two types.
Standard:
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What do you mean by "cupped end for rod"? I am having a hard time telling the difference. Could you please show me what you mean so that I get the correct one for my 60.
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PostPosted: Sun Aug 28, 2011 7:25 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

He means the little rounded bulge above the area that goes into the jack point.
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PostPosted: Wed Sep 14, 2011 2:12 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Can anyone tell what this came from, it has a round jack point but looks different from the other round ones.
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PostPosted: Wed Sep 14, 2011 3:28 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

reporsche wrote:
Can anyone tell what this came from, it has a round jack point but looks different from the other round ones.


not without a picture.
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PostPosted: Thu Sep 15, 2011 12:08 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Does anyone have any idea about these two? I don't think they are KDF/VW but I'm not sure. I think one may even be pre-war.
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PostPosted: Sat Sep 17, 2011 4:15 pm    Post subject: split jaks Reply with quote

Here are some more early split jacks...

1940 ? - 1946 (notice round arm). The arm is placed quite higt because it's for a Kübelwagen.
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1947 - mid 1949 ?
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Mid 1949 - mid 1950 ?
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