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SplitPersonality Samba Member
Joined: September 26, 2004 Posts: 630 Location: Norway
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Posted: Thu Aug 28, 2008 2:47 pm Post subject: Best source for split door glass felt and rubber? |
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For two 1952-models I want to buy "everything" not steel or glass for the door window assembly - mainly the big long felt channel and the rubber scraper inside/outside, including hardware.
Where is the best place to get this in the world? Wolfsb West, Zarwerks - or that German place? Any first hand knowledge in here? |
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virtanen Samba Member
Joined: January 08, 2006 Posts: 1461 Location: Finland
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Posted: Fri Aug 29, 2008 3:49 am Post subject: |
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The rubber scraper inside/outside, including hardware |
These you can find originals at least from Veteranen-Service Germany |
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mrsherbie Samba Member
Joined: November 08, 2004 Posts: 338 Location: East Sussex UK
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Posted: Fri Aug 29, 2008 8:07 am Post subject: |
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I cut up some nos later beetle bonnet rubbers and just used the top centre sections to make mine as the rubber was identical size, and then I visited BBT and they sold me the same 'wider' lip rubber, brand new by the metre. I compared it in the shop in my hand at BBT to the window scraper rubber on a pastel green 100% og 50 they have and was happy it is identical. So I bought lots of metres of it, for next time I need some on a car! _________________ Anna.
quote 50karmann " it'll wreck the patina you haven't worked so hard to create" |
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eurodub Samba Member
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Posted: Fri Aug 29, 2008 8:10 am Post subject: |
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can anyone post a picture with some measurements? a section, some details, please?
i can use the felt channel from any modern car if it's the same length but i'm curious what the originals look like, the clips that hold the rubber in place, etc
thank you! _________________ 1960 1200 model 117 deluxe ragtop
1974 T2 Westfalia Campmobile
1976 MK1 Golf |
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johnshenry Samba Member
Joined: September 21, 2001 Posts: 9364 Location: Northwood, NH USA
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Posted: Fri Aug 29, 2008 10:26 am Post subject: |
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There was a thread somewhere here already on restoration of the felt channels.
I ordered some rubber channel from Ricardo in Argentina and it is dead on. At least at that time, it was not available anywhere else. You still need to glue the fabric on it then, you can get a mohair fabric from many upholstery suppliers, but make sure it is UV tolerant or it will fade in the sun in just a few weeks...
The curved channel is complex in that the upper part of the glass goes all the way through it at the top, so it has a long slot cut in it. This is to allow you to lower the window just a bit to expose the "notch" near the front for ventilation (neat idea, but it doesn't work) while the top stays closed.
For that reas you can not use an "aftermarket" ordinary felt channel. _________________ John Henry
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Blue Baron VW Aficionado
Joined: June 16, 2006 Posts: 24059 Location: Southeast USA
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Posted: Fri Aug 29, 2008 10:44 am Post subject: |
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Well, you can, so long as you don't mind that notch in the glass being exposed slightly with the window in the up position. It's not that noticible, and as John says, you won't notice much in the way of cold air drafts. |
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Solan Samba Member
Joined: March 26, 2009 Posts: 41 Location: Bergen, Norway
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Posted: Mon Nov 20, 2023 2:47 pm Post subject: Re: Best source for split door glass felt and rubber? |
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SplitPersonality wrote: |
For two 1952-models I want to buy "everything" not steel or glass for the door window assembly - mainly the big long felt channel and the rubber scraper inside/outside, including hardware.
Where is the best place to get this in the world? Wolfsb West, Zarwerks - or that German place? Any first hand knowledge in here? |
Hei Øystein
I suppose you found out where to get the felt channel from?
I'm looking to finish up the glass and door windows soon, in my 1952 beetle.
Maybe you even found a supplier closer to home for us Norwegians?
Mvh Svein Lysø _________________ '65 11W Microbus
'52 Beetle ragtop |
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Two Glove Boxes Samba Member
Joined: March 03, 2005 Posts: 838 Location: Texas
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Posted: Tue Nov 21, 2023 9:33 am Post subject: Re: Best source for split door glass felt and rubber? |
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Solan wrote: |
SplitPersonality wrote: |
For two 1952-models I want to buy "everything" not steel or glass for the door window assembly - mainly the big long felt channel and the rubber scraper inside/outside, including hardware.
Where is the best place to get this in the world? Wolfsb West, Zarwerks - or that German place? Any first hand knowledge in here? |
Hei Øystein
I suppose you found out where to get the felt channel from?
I'm looking to finish up the glass and door windows soon, in my 1952 beetle.
Maybe you even found a supplier closer to home for us Norwegians?
Mvh Svein Lysø |
I found a brilliant 100% cotton material from a local fabric store that works and looks ten times better than what is on the market.
_________________ 1951 Split Standard Hoffman Build
1960 Dove Blue Double Cab Patina Build
Two Glove Boxes
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50Splitman Samba Member
Joined: April 29, 2004 Posts: 346
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Posted: Tue Nov 21, 2023 3:09 pm Post subject: Re: Best source for split door glass felt and rubber? |
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That looks amazing. Can you share exactly what it is? Is it simply black cloth? Is it exterior grade with UV protection? Or did you spray it with some type of protection? |
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Two Glove Boxes Samba Member
Joined: March 03, 2005 Posts: 838 Location: Texas
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Posted: Tue Nov 21, 2023 3:57 pm Post subject: Re: Best source for split door glass felt and rubber? |
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50Splitman wrote: |
That looks amazing. Can you share exactly what it is? Is it simply black cloth? Is it exterior grade with UV protection? Or did you spray it with some type of protection? |
Yes I got lucky my wife helped me out with getting this material click the link below.
Hobby Lobby
I am unsure about the UV rating but it is meant for outside conditions.
Cotton duck fabric and is a sturdy cotton canvas fabric. It is often used for making sails, tents, and other outdoor gear. Cotton duck fabric has a waterproof rating of 8.
I hope that helps. _________________ 1951 Split Standard Hoffman Build
1960 Dove Blue Double Cab Patina Build
Two Glove Boxes
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50Splitman Samba Member
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Posted: Tue Nov 21, 2023 4:04 pm Post subject: Re: Best source for split door glass felt and rubber? |
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Two Glove Boxes wrote: |
50Splitman wrote: |
That looks amazing. Can you share exactly what it is? Is it simply black cloth? Is it exterior grade with UV protection? Or did you spray it with some type of protection? |
Yes I got lucky my wife helped me out with getting this material click the link below.
Hobby Lobby
I am unsure about the UV rating but it is meant for outside conditions.
Cotton duck fabric and is a sturdy cotton canvas fabric. It is often used for making sails, tents, and other outdoor gear. Cotton duck fabric has a waterproof rating of 8.
I hope that helps. |
Thanks for sharing the details! Seems like it would be perfect for the application given its outdoor ratings. There is a Hobby Lobby right near me, so this is perfect! |
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50Splitman Samba Member
Joined: April 29, 2004 Posts: 346
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Posted: Tue Nov 21, 2023 6:18 pm Post subject: Re: Best source for split door glass felt and rubber? |
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I just went to Hobby Lobby and picked some up and will be installing this week! They had the fabric in the link you sent, plus they had a full canvas version, which was much heavier, but probably would be too bulky to install, so I went with what you used. Thanks again for the advice. |
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Two Glove Boxes Samba Member
Joined: March 03, 2005 Posts: 838 Location: Texas
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Posted: Sun Dec 03, 2023 12:56 pm Post subject: Re: Best source for split door glass felt and rubber? |
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50Splitman wrote: |
I just went to Hobby Lobby and picked some up and will be installing this week! They had the fabric in the link you sent, plus they had a full canvas version, which was much heavier, but probably would be too bulky to install, so I went with what you used. Thanks again for the advice. |
Awesome glad I could help! 👍 _________________ 1951 Split Standard Hoffman Build
1960 Dove Blue Double Cab Patina Build
Two Glove Boxes
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