Pastis the twin turbo PDK Syncro

syncrogreg · Posted: Wed Jul 22, 2015 4:29 pm Post subject:

I'm fine with paying watever... just the roller coaster is not cool!
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Signalocity · Samba Member Joined: February 13, 2012 Posts: 573

I'll give you heaps of credit and admiration on this build, but it's well known that the transaxle is the syncro weak point and high-output engines have proven their demise time and time again. No matter how much you build up the transaxle, it still tops out at what, 150 ft. lb. torque max to use and maintain reliability? Whats the EE20, 250 ft. lb.? Not to mention slugging it through some pretty hard terrain. You can't really fault AA on this one.

Birdcage · Posted: Wed Jul 22, 2015 6:20 pm Post subject:

Doesn't matter what engines installed apparently, I've talked to four people recently all with different engines and all with LOW mileage trans issues.

Guess what shop is the common denominator

syncrogreg · Posted: Wed Jul 22, 2015 6:24 pm Post subject:

I'm sad that Matt offered me a deal this morning to help me out after 30mn on the phome @ $2 /mn . And later on in the day her wife send me a email and tells me that this is not possible le anymore.

Just disappointed about the roller coaster.

Greg
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Signalocity · Samba Member Joined: February 13, 2012 Posts: 573

insyncro · Posted: Wed Jul 22, 2015 8:30 pm Post subject:

$yncro

buspor63 · Posted: Wed Jul 22, 2015 8:57 pm Post subject:

Steve M. · Posted: Thu Jul 23, 2015 3:33 am Post subject:

Greg just make ABSOLUTELY CERTAIN YOUR SHIPPING FORMATION IS PERFECT FOR THE PART SHIPPING INTO BUENOS ARIES. THE CUSTOMS OFFICE THERE AT THE AIRPORT IS TERRIBLE in more ways than one. Ask the locals about it.

(from personal experience - there is $5600.00 of electronics sitting there on a shelf somewhere I couldn't get through customs or ship back to vendor.)

kustomizingkid · Posted: Thu Jul 23, 2015 6:00 am Post subject:

From talking to motorcycle guys who have tried to get parts I would want that shaft coming on an airplane, in a private parties luggage. No way I would trust shipping, not on something that delicate and spendy.

$yncro love.

ALIKA T3 · Posted: Thu Jul 23, 2015 10:51 am Post subject:

?Waldo? · Posted: Thu Jul 23, 2015 11:58 am Post subject:

Wouldn't the input shaft have a threaded hole in the shown end?

crazyvwvanman · Posted: Thu Jul 23, 2015 12:01 pm Post subject:

Agreed, that looks like a snapped off input shaft still screwed to the end of the mainshaft. Of course VW calls the input shaft a mainshaft so that could cause some confusion. A snapped input shaft is a $50-100 part, not $1000. The true mainshaft is expensive these days.

If it was simply a snapped input shaft that part could have been replaced without disassembling the tranny.

There are some special versions of the input shaft made to twist and spring back under severe loading. Perhaps one of those is called for.

edit:After another look it might be the whole input shaft with the snapped end of the mainshaft rather than the other way around. That makes more sense considering the parties involved.

Mark

furrylittleotter · Posted: Thu Jul 23, 2015 12:25 pm Post subject:

Greg and Katie, sorry you are broken down, that is a lot of torque for ANY transmission, let alone a Syncro.
Sorry there was back and forth on the shaft price but glad you are keeping spirits up.
DO NOT SHIP THAT SHAFT. I give it 1:100 odds of getting to you unless you have someone personally deliver it. THe good news is I am free next week if you need my help. Wink

Take it low and slow home.

?Waldo? · Posted: Thu Jul 23, 2015 12:47 pm Post subject:

crazyvwvanman · Posted: Thu Jul 23, 2015 12:58 pm Post subject:

I edited my post above right after I wrote it. It looks more like the end of the mainshaft snapped off and is still attached to the input shaft by the small threaded stud.

I've seen the torsional input shaft listed various places. Here is one for the shorter shaft Vanagon applications, VW inline 4 diesel and gas.

Mark

Our Weddle Racing input shafts are much more effective at dampening shock loads than the stock VW input shafts, and they work to significantly reduce stresses in the transmission and drivetrain. This can make a huge difference in the longevity of components, especially in high performance applications. Each shaft is manufactured from custom-spec ultra high quality 300M steel, through-hardened, and shot peened to maximize strength and fatigue resistance.

091-311-105AHD
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Applications:

'68-'79 VW Type 2, '80-'83 Vanagon (Air Cooled), '84+ Vanagon (Water Cooled)

?Waldo? · Posted: Thu Jul 23, 2015 2:30 pm Post subject:

Thanks for the link. I now also understand what I see in the pic.

insyncro · Posted: Thu Jul 23, 2015 2:47 pm Post subject:

I would abandon "stock" parts for this application.

Many I have talked too about this are surprised it went as far as it did.

I hope MReuter sees this.

ALIKA T3 · Posted: Sat Jul 25, 2015 12:09 am Post subject:

I spoke to Greg, he's getting a mainshaft from Weddle, it's cheaper.

I made him a list of things he will need too, clips, pinion bearing nut etc...

I made a how-to on the french forum he can look at,but it seems he's gonna look for a shop to do it. I'd keep an eye on them and do most of it myself...

Hey brah, fly me over, I'll fix it up and bring the tools and parts Razz

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Jon_slider · Posted: Sat Jul 25, 2015 9:34 am Post subject:

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EE20 torque 258 ft lbs
H6 3.0 torque 210 ft lbs
SVX 3.3 torque 238 ft lbs

hans j and syncrodoka, do not use engine braking in granny or reverse, and have had no broken trannies..
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insyncro · Posted: Sat Jul 25, 2015 9:52 am Post subject:

Drivers break transmissions, not engines Exclamation


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