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PostPosted: Wed Sep 19, 2018 5:09 am    Post subject: instrument cluster - dangling foil connector Reply with quote

It appears at some point the instrument cluster has been fiddled with... I'm guessing the speedometer was replaced with that of an older Vanagon. The foil connector that connects to the back of the speedometer on some clusters is just dangling.

1. I have no idea how many miles are on my Vanagon - this is not cool.
2. When was this speedometer used in Vanagons?
3. Is it worth trying to find a different speedometer?

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PostPosted: Wed Sep 19, 2018 5:51 am    Post subject: Re: instrument cluster - dangling foil connector Reply with quote

Looks like someone tampered with the dynamic oil pressure circuit. Maybe the buzzer was going off all of the time. I would check the oil pressure switches, the cabling in the engine compartment and reconnect the connector to the pins of the little pcb under the speedo.
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PostPosted: Wed Sep 19, 2018 5:53 am    Post subject: Re: instrument cluster - dangling foil connector Reply with quote

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Looks like someone tampered with the dynamic oil pressure circuit. Maybe the buzzer was going off all of the time. I would check the oil pressure switches, the cabling in the engine compartment and reconnect the connector to the pins of the little pcb under the speedo.


the speedo does not have a connector... thus the reason this a dangling.
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PostPosted: Wed Sep 19, 2018 6:10 am    Post subject: Re: instrument cluster - dangling foil connector Reply with quote

This is what your speedo should look like:

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Someone must have replaced it with an earlier/different version.
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PostPosted: Wed Sep 19, 2018 7:07 am    Post subject: Re: instrument cluster - dangling foil connector Reply with quote

With that unplugged your van has NO OIL LIGHT unless someone did something else to allow the oil light to still function.

You should make sure you have a working oil warning light.

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PostPosted: Wed Sep 19, 2018 8:45 am    Post subject: Re: instrument cluster - dangling foil connector Reply with quote

The face of the speedometer is labelled 805 so i know it's not from a syncro - it appears to be an 83-85 model since it lacks the oil pressure circuit connector.


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PostPosted: Wed Sep 19, 2018 8:56 am    Post subject: Re: instrument cluster - dangling foil connector Reply with quote

That is a speedo from an older van.

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PostPosted: Wed Sep 19, 2018 9:18 am    Post subject: Re: instrument cluster - dangling foil connector Reply with quote

crazyvwvanman wrote:
That is a speedo from an older van.

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yeah, that's what i figured. i'll check to see if the oil light comes on with the key... i suspect it does not.
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PostPosted: Wed Sep 19, 2018 11:59 am    Post subject: Re: instrument cluster - dangling foil connector Reply with quote

that is a speedo from an air cooled van.
all speedos are clearly date stamped. i can almost make it out in the bottom pic in the OP.
you should get the right one and have a functioning oil pressure warning system.
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PostPosted: Wed Sep 19, 2018 2:50 pm    Post subject: Re: instrument cluster - dangling foil connector Reply with quote

No oil light on key on... drat
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PostPosted: Wed Sep 19, 2018 3:43 pm    Post subject: Re: instrument cluster - dangling foil connector Reply with quote

Older vans had a screw on speedometer. My 81 had a screw on speedo and my current 85 has the same version you show (push on). I bought a newer one a few months back but was never able to make it work. Between the diff speedo connector and the buzzer and the rearranged 14pin it was too much work for very little bang.

Ive never seen brown foil. Is that even a bus connector?
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PostPosted: Wed Sep 19, 2018 3:59 pm    Post subject: Re: instrument cluster - dangling foil connector Reply with quote

85 vans don't need the wires on the 14 pin moved for later clusters or any tach cluster to work.
80-84 use one 14 pin layout.
85-91 use another 14 pin layout.
84 Wolfy vans came with a tach and use the 85+ 14 pin layout.
86+ 14 pin uses an extra wire for a 2nd oil switch, simple to work around if needed.
Different year tachs sometimes don't work with other year vans, the tachs have different electronics in them.

The brown foil is just the back side of the blue foil.

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Older vans had a screw on speedometer. My 81 had a screw on speedo and my current 85 has the same version you show (push on). I bought a newer one a few months back but was never able to make it work. Between the diff speedo connector and the buzzer and the rearranged 14pin it was too much work for very little bang.

Ive never seen brown foil. Is that even a bus connector?
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