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Quadratrückseite Samba Member
Joined: January 19, 2007 Posts: 239 Location: Castle Rock, CO
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Posted: Thu Sep 08, 2011 10:53 am Post subject: |
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Whitley wrote: |
Anyone know who in the US has the Genuine VW couplers in stock now? I received one from Bus Depot today, and it looks a little suspicious. It has Germany printed on it, but I think its a Euromax brand. It looks like Scott has them, but with shipping, its $72. I've searched several other suppliers with no luck- any help is appreciated.
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I got mine from Wolfsburg West - they are genuine VW. Before I ordered I called them to make sure. I had also originally gotten one from Bus Depot (which was a Euromax and was not good - the bushings fell out), and then read this thread...so I got a real VW one. I did a write up on it here:
http://randum.info/blog/2011/05/30/steering-coupler-redux/ _________________ 1978 Country Homes Camper conversion
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poptop tom Samba Member
Joined: July 27, 2004 Posts: 1607 Location: The Hoosier State
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Posted: Thu Sep 08, 2011 11:06 am Post subject: |
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Did that EuroMax one actually have Euromax stamped into it?
I can't recall where I bought mine, but it says VW, has Germany stamped on it, and no Euromax markings. _________________ '76 Deluxe Campmobile |
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Quadratrückseite Samba Member
Joined: January 19, 2007 Posts: 239 Location: Castle Rock, CO
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Posted: Thu Sep 08, 2011 11:53 am Post subject: |
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My Euromax one didn't say Euromax anywhere on it, but I believe it did on the packaging it came from, or it was on the Bus Depot website. My Euromax said "Premium Quality." If yours says VW and Germany, you probably have the genuine one like I do. _________________ 1978 Country Homes Camper conversion
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Whitley Samba Member
Joined: January 04, 2010 Posts: 158 Location: Smiths Grove, KY
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Posted: Thu Sep 08, 2011 1:07 pm Post subject: |
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The one I have from BD says Germany on it and a "W" with a circle around it- not VW- sneaky. No Euromax markings, but it obviously looks different from the real one- more rounded and the spacers appear to be aluminum. _________________ Third and Sixth owner of a 76 Westy
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SGKent Samba Member
Joined: October 30, 2007 Posts: 41031 Location: Citrus Heights CA (Near Sacramento)
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Posted: Thu Sep 08, 2011 1:20 pm Post subject: |
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there are several that have the VW logo and part on them ground off and they look identical in casting to the genuine VW one. The genuine VW ones seem to be harder rubber that does not compress as much. _________________ “Most people don’t know what they’re doing, and a lot of them are really good at it.” - George Carlin |
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Brionp Samba Member
Joined: March 18, 2009 Posts: 457
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Posted: Thu Sep 08, 2011 1:32 pm Post subject: |
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Hey, It must be the season. I did mine two weeks ago. I'll have to look for the logo but I fear that I am doomed. Got mine from Cip-1. I retained the castle nuts and was amazed at how well they were designed. But I think I'll use a nylock for the yoke.
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Krautski Samba Member
Joined: March 28, 2009 Posts: 874 Location: WA
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Posted: Thu Sep 08, 2011 1:46 pm Post subject: |
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Does anyone know what durometer rubber that coupler is?
Would be quite easy for me to machine it out of the proper thickness / spec of rubber and then make inserts for the bolt holes.
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RatCamper Samba Member
Joined: November 13, 2008 Posts: 3305 Location: Australia
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Posted: Thu Sep 08, 2011 2:05 pm Post subject: |
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This may be a silly question but what is the purpose of the coupler? My guess is to take up the slight angular differences between steering box and column, and maybe to detach if the steering box gets torn off? I dunno.
You all have me worries about mine now. I don't see any cracks on it. I do know it's over 10 years old because I remember replacing the old steering box which had 1/4 turn of freeplay. It was physically impossible to drive it in a straight line _________________ Vehicle: 1975 Special order delivery walkthrough panel based pop-top camper (LCA / Sunliner). Motor: Nippon 1.8L Single port Wasserboxer, Transmission: 3 rib 002. |
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BusterBrown Samba Member
Joined: December 15, 2009 Posts: 1397 Location: Arizona
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Posted: Thu Sep 08, 2011 2:08 pm Post subject: |
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Image from Wolfsburg West. Hard to see from this, but the good ones have what looks like nylon fibers exposed in the edge of the disc, meaning it's woven into the middle of the rubber. Reinforcement, and will keep the disc from coming apart, which is a good thing. _________________ 1978 Sage Green Westfalia (Happy Trails, SOLD)
1977 Transporter
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BusterBrown Samba Member
Joined: December 15, 2009 Posts: 1397 Location: Arizona
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Posted: Thu Sep 08, 2011 2:15 pm Post subject: |
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RatCamper wrote: |
This may be a silly question but what is the purpose of the coupler? My guess is to take up the slight angular differences between steering box and column, and maybe to detach if the steering box gets torn off? I dunno.
You all have me worries about mine now. I don't see any cracks on it. I do know it's over 10 years old because I remember replacing the old steering box which had 1/4 turn of freeplay. It was physically impossible to drive it in a straight line |
This coupler offers a bit of a cushioning effect between the front end/steering assembly of the bus, and the steering wheel. Connects the steering box with the steering column and steering wheel. Contributes to a dampening effect, much like the steering dampener, and shock absorbers.
A good coupler disc will be rigid and unbendable in your hands. The ones to worry about are the ones that you can bend like a taco with your own hand strength. _________________ 1978 Sage Green Westfalia (Happy Trails, SOLD)
1977 Transporter
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CaptKombi Samba Member
Joined: August 15, 2011 Posts: 4 Location: SoCal
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Posted: Wed Sep 14, 2011 2:11 pm Post subject: EuroMax Coupling Disc |
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Thanks for the info, I'm glad I read this before I continued the work. I bought a EuroMax disc from BusDepot and will either return it or just trash it. I ordered a new one from WW.
I have a question about the Castle nuts; I'm not going to use them again and will replace them with NyLoc, can someone recommend a torque spec for the NyLoc on the Disc bolts?
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minispdrcr Samba Member
Joined: September 13, 2010 Posts: 272 Location: Oklahoma City, OK
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Posted: Thu Dec 27, 2012 1:25 pm Post subject: |
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I know this is probably stupid, but how do you remove the plastic clamping ring around the shaft? _________________ Marcin P.
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marken Samba Member
Joined: February 23, 2009 Posts: 86 Location: Columbia, SC
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Posted: Fri Dec 28, 2012 11:59 am Post subject: |
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211-415-417 still an active part number ordered one today from VW dealer in SC List retail 51.90. _________________ Once, when you were in love, you bought one ring. I have bought my bus three SETS! |
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BusterBrown Samba Member
Joined: December 15, 2009 Posts: 1397 Location: Arizona
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Posted: Fri Dec 28, 2012 12:24 pm Post subject: |
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marken wrote: |
211-415-417 still an active part number ordered one today from VW dealer in SC List retail 51.90. |
Same item, same part number, from Wolfsburg West for $20
http://www.wolfsburgwest.com/cart/DetailsList.cfm?ID=211415417 _________________ 1978 Sage Green Westfalia (Happy Trails, SOLD)
1977 Transporter
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busdaddy Samba Member
Joined: February 12, 2004 Posts: 51144 Location: Surrey B.C. Canada, but thinking of Ukraine
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Posted: Fri Dec 28, 2012 1:01 pm Post subject: |
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minispdrcr wrote: |
I know this is probably stupid, but how do you remove the plastic clamping ring around the shaft? |
Which ring are we discussing?
_________________ Rust NEVER sleeps and stock never goes out of style.
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minispdrcr Samba Member
Joined: September 13, 2010 Posts: 272 Location: Oklahoma City, OK
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Posted: Fri Dec 28, 2012 1:04 pm Post subject: |
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busdaddy wrote: |
minispdrcr wrote: |
I know this is probably stupid, but how do you remove the plastic clamping ring around the shaft? |
Which ring are we discussing? |
On the steering wheel shaft. Number 14 in the bentley on page 27 of the front axle section.
On your picture it is 22 I believe. _________________ Marcin P.
1969 Westfalia Weekender Edition
1973 Morris Mini 1300 Super
1998 Audi A6 |
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minispdrcr Samba Member
Joined: September 13, 2010 Posts: 272 Location: Oklahoma City, OK
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Posted: Sat Dec 29, 2012 12:39 pm Post subject: |
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I dont want to break it and dont really want to remove the whole steering column. is there a way around without having to take the column apart? _________________ Marcin P.
1969 Westfalia Weekender Edition
1973 Morris Mini 1300 Super
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busdaddy Samba Member
Joined: February 12, 2004 Posts: 51144 Location: Surrey B.C. Canada, but thinking of Ukraine
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Posted: Sat Dec 29, 2012 1:28 pm Post subject: |
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minispdrcr wrote: |
I dont want to break it and dont really want to remove the whole steering column. is there a way around without having to take the column apart? |
No, you'll have to unbolt the upper column mounts and remove the steering wheel to lift the tube out of that ring. And if you F it up replacements aren't available so consider that when planning the job. _________________ Rust NEVER sleeps and stock never goes out of style.
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minispdrcr Samba Member
Joined: September 13, 2010 Posts: 272 Location: Oklahoma City, OK
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Posted: Sat Dec 29, 2012 2:08 pm Post subject: |
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Well dang... But I found this in case
http://www.busdepot.com/211415601b _________________ Marcin P.
1969 Westfalia Weekender Edition
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larryducas Samba Member
Joined: October 25, 2011 Posts: 233 Location: Fallbrook, CA
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Posted: Sat Jan 12, 2013 9:53 am Post subject: |
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Just got done doing mine.
I was able to loosen the steering column cover plate, and jockey it around enough to remove and replace the coupling and bolts without disconnecting steering column.
It was kinda tricky this way, but doable. _________________ 71 deluxe, 1968 type 1 engine rebuilt, 009 distributor, pertronix module, Empi 38 EPC / DGES carb |
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