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dredward
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 Posted: Mon Oct 11, 2010 9:58 pm Post subject: another use for the water boxer |
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Have a spare water boxer and a type3 hanging around, why not do this:
http://www.thesamba.com/vw/classifieds/detail.php?id=1036265
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thummmper
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| it looks like a vanagon back there--I stuck a corvair in one once. sweet |
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Zeitgeist 13
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I likee...
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syncrodoka
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I would rather chuck the motor into a field than hack up my type 3 to stick in a WBX. :2gunfire:
Dredward you are missing a syncro in your signature line. Gotta update  |
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xoo00oox
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I chucked the aircooled into the field and put a 1.9 in my bug. Nothing on Bug has been hacked up to do this. These engines have a very smooth power band and make a great power plant in the old VW's. I get about 31 MPG and have good heat.
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D Clymer
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I've always wanted to do a wasserboxer bug or Karmann Ghia but I just don't have the time. The wasserboxer is a great engine, once you forgive it for the water jacket seal design. It's just overburdoned in a 3500+ lb van.
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Zeitgeist 13
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I've always wanted to do a wasserboxer bug or Karmann Ghia but I just don't have the time. The wasserboxer is a great engine, once you forgive it for the water jacket seal design. It's just overburdoned in a 3500+ lb van.
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I'm not sure I'd go so far as to say "great", but it really represents the pinnacle of robustness in VAG's long series of flat-fours.
An NA engine may be "over-burdened", but I think these things will wake right up if lightly boosted. I'm giving serious consideration to recreating another member's project by swapping over the engine management system from a Volvo 7-series turbo engine. I think I can nab all the associated parts for <$100 at the local Pick-a-Part. Then it's just head-scratching, dedicated time and enduring my sloppy Mig welds. I think a reliable 130hp-150hp output is an achievable goal, without breaking into the longblock. Beyond that, it's probably time for a programmable EFI.
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dredward
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Hmmmmmmm!!!!!!! and no smog issues!!!!
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Beetsport 
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purplepeopleeater
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| The t3 looks nice....but If I where going to spend the $ I'd machine the waterjackets down and make the wbx a aircooler, you can make some pretty sick aircooled motors this way. |
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Zeitgeist 13
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343HP (373lb/ft) of torque = 11.81 1/4 mile. I'd say that's pretty sick
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Syncroincity
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Alaric.H
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dredward
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| 343HP (373lb/ft) of torque = 11.81 1/4 mile. I'd say that's pretty sick |
Those are some respectable #'s! The turbo bits can be had from places like c.b. performance or custom like the one pictured.
To the person talking about makeing the water boxer air cooled: WHY!
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j_dirge
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| xoo00oox wrote: |
I chucked the aircooled into the field and put a 1.9 in my bug. Nothing on Bug has been hacked up to do this. These engines have a very smooth power band and make a great power plant in the old VW's. I get about 31 MPG and have good heat.
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I have visions of my 2.1 WBXer in a Manx style buggy.
This radiator mount solves the bigger problem for me.
Thanks!
31 mpg? serious?
wow.
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those are straight line runs with light weight race cars for only 1/4mile at a time..
not pushing a loaded brick up a mountain pass with a family of 4+ inside expecting to have an event free vacation..
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euromog
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| 343HP (373lb/ft) of torque = 11.81 1/4 mile. I'd say that's pretty sick |
It sure is! Over 100hp more than an SVX or H6 Subaru! No way a Syncro trans would hold that kind of HP for long though.
Maybe I should stick a WBX in my Thing? |
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j_dirge
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Maybe I should stick a WBX in my Thing? |
Keep this up and our old recycled WBXers will increase in value!
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"Jimi Hendrix owned one. Richard Nixon did not"
-Grand Tour, Season 1, episodes 4 and 5
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those are straight line runs with light weight race cars for only 1/4mile at a time..
not pushing a loaded brick up a mountain pass with a family of 4+ inside expecting to have an event free vacation..
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