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rudygetz
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 Posted: Sat Oct 16, 2010 1:20 pm Post subject: Rear Passenger Side Squeak!!! |
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I have this insanely annoying squeak on my passenger side rear. I jacked up the car and turned the tire, no squeak.
it only happens when I drive the car...any ideas?
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Daddybus
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| torsion bar rubber bushing. Grease them. |
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oarse
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Are you sure it's suspension related?
Could it be that the distributor needs to be lubed? This causes an unbearable squeak until the cam follower fails. |
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campingbox 
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| Posted: Sat Oct 16, 2010 7:23 pm Post subject: |
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| Daddybus wrote: |
| torsion bar rubber bushing. Grease them. |
You should use graphite on those, not grease. |
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Campy
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Could it be the shock absorber?
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pyrOman
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Worn out axle bearings. 
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rudygetz
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pyrOman
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Is that a suicidal rat or is it just riding shotgun?
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clubtreb
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| so what was it. I just had the samething. thought it was a bearing. but the fluid ran low in the rgb |
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rudygetz
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| so what was it. I just had the samething. thought it was a bearing. but the fluid ran low in the rgb |
scratch that, the squeak may be internal within the transmission.
Apparently the wheel was loose, even though it had been tightend not so long ago. I tightened the axel nut and the squeak went away but there's still a problem on why the wheel came loose. The axel nut had the cotter pin in so it couldn't have come loose.
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clubtreb
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| I had had a bad hum when I got the bus. then changed the gear oil. hum went away. then got a sqweek a few years later. took apart and saw nothing wrong. put new gear oil in, thinking what the hell. drive away and never heard sqweek again. good luck |
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pyrOman
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| rudygetz wrote: |
| clubtreb wrote: |
| so what was it. I just had the samething. thought it was a bearing. but the fluid ran low in the rgb |
scratch that, the squeak may be internal within the transmission.
Apparently the wheel was loose, even though it had been tightend not so long ago. I tightened the axel nut and the squeak went away but there's still a problem on why the wheel came loose. The axel nut had the cotter pin in so it couldn't have come loose. |
How do you know it was torqued enough? Did you use a torque wrench?
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| pyrOman wrote: |
| rudygetz wrote: |
| clubtreb wrote: |
| so what was it. I just had the samething. thought it was a bearing. but the fluid ran low in the rgb |
scratch that, the squeak may be internal within the transmission.
Apparently the wheel was loose, even though it had been tightend not so long ago. I tightened the axel nut and the squeak went away but there's still a problem on why the wheel came loose. The axel nut had the cotter pin in so it couldn't have come loose. |
How do you know it was torqued enough? Did you use a torque wrench? |
Used a breaker bar and tightened the hell out of it...
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| rudygetz wrote: |
| pyrOman wrote: |
| rudygetz wrote: |
| clubtreb wrote: |
| so what was it. I just had the samething. thought it was a bearing. but the fluid ran low in the rgb |
scratch that, the squeak may be internal within the transmission.
Apparently the wheel was loose, even though it had been tightend not so long ago. I tightened the axel nut and the squeak went away but there's still a problem on why the wheel came loose. The axel nut had the cotter pin in so it couldn't have come loose. |
How do you know it was torqued enough? Did you use a torque wrench? |
Used a breaker bar and tightened the hell out of it... |
Whatever works... I never trust my own judgement as to the torque of the rear axle nut, because brake drums are too expensive. I use my 3ft. torque wrench to get it to 250, then use the breaker bar to get the cotter pin to line up. Make sure you tighten the nut further to line up the cotter pin, rather than backing it off, or you might encounter the same issue (or worse, you might strip out your brake drum.) |
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pyrOman
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| oarse wrote: |
| rudygetz wrote: |
| pyrOman wrote: |
| rudygetz wrote: |
| clubtreb wrote: |
| so what was it. I just had the samething. thought it was a bearing. but the fluid ran low in the rgb |
scratch that, the squeak may be internal within the transmission.
Apparently the wheel was loose, even though it had been tightend not so long ago. I tightened the axel nut and the squeak went away but there's still a problem on why the wheel came loose. The axel nut had the cotter pin in so it couldn't have come loose. |
How do you know it was torqued enough? Did you use a torque wrench? |
Used a breaker bar and tightened the hell out of it... |
Whatever works... I never trust my own judgement as to the torque of the rear axle nut, because brake drums are too expensive. I use my 3ft. torque wrench to get it to 250, then use the breaker bar to get the cotter pin to line up. Make sure you tighten the nut further to line up the cotter pin, rather than backing it off, or you might encounter the same issue (or worse, you might strip out your brake drum.) |
While "tight" is good, too tight may strip the threads. Though it's best to use a "calibrated" torque wrench, if one is not available the formula for torque is quite simple: Weight X Length = Torque. So if you weigh 250 pounds and stand on a 1 foot long breaker bar, it will apply 250Lb-Ft of torque. If you are a lightweight like me, then figure out how long a bar is needed. So if you only weigh 125 pounds, then a 2 foot long bar will torque it @ 250Lb-Ft. 
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