Square Headlamp Size?

[ShootingFish]

I am starting the hunt... Yes, I know that it is going to be a difficult one, for some square H4s. But I need to know the size first.

Anyone out there with the 411?

SF
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Props aren't just for boats....

'88 2WD ALH-TDI Westy
'90 Syncro 16 Doka

[K58]

Could you be a little more specific?
The standard H4 is 200mm or roughly 7" X 6"
The Vanagon has an odd size and is not directly interchangeable.

[ShootingFish]

That is a great start on info... Thank you.

SF
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SF

Props aren't just for boats....

'88 2WD ALH-TDI Westy
'90 Syncro 16 Doka

[Vango Conversions]

If you're looking to improve your square headlight lighting, don't focus too much on getting H4s. Yes, most of the bright round headlights (not sealed beams) use H4s but the bulb itself isn't really much better. It's the optics of the after market lens and reflectors that work better, not the bulb.

If you can find some better square headlights that fit the van please let everyone know, but I wouldn't limit your search to only lenses that accept H4s.

[K58]

The only way to get better rectangular H4 headlights is to retro-fit some 200mm H4's into the Vanagon.
It can be done but takes a litlle modding.
done here:
http://www.thesamba.com/vw/forum/viewtopic.php?t=274814&highlight=vanagon

The best H4's on the market are Cibie's and can be found here http://danielsternlighting.com/
along with a wiring harness and some 100/90 watt bulbs you'll be set.

ps. don't waste money on a GoWesty headlight downgrade

[ShootingFish]

You mean http://gowesty.com/ec_view_details.php?id=3093&category_id=&category_parent_id=

I actually have it already and have been pretty happy with the change in the lighting... I have just been reading about the Euro Spec H4 lenses and was curious about what that might do for the lighting.

Thoughts?
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SF

Props aren't just for boats....

'88 2WD ALH-TDI Westy
'90 Syncro 16 Doka

[SyncroGhia]

I've been looking into this for a while and have started taking note of modern truck headlights which run HID's.

I have an HID conversion kit fitted to Limey and love the bright lights but don't like the light leak off points which can potentionally dazzle other drivers. I'd love to get a more modern headlight to replace both the main and spot light units.

MG
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T3 Tristar Syncro 16 SOLD
T3 Tristar Syncro RHD SOLD

[78BayDriver]

Does anybody hae a 90-94 Passat? If so, can you measure the WHOLE lens area? I just had an idea and want to see if this works.

Michael
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1991 Golf GTi Forest Green
1981 Vanagon L 1.6 Diesel
1978 BayWindow Bus
1974 Bus
1990 Jetta
1979 Dasher Wagon
1972 Beetle

[K58]

[SyncroGhia]

That's what I'd love to do but how do you get around the lense? We need a clear lense which is the same size as the current one...

MG
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T3 Tristar Syncro 16 SOLD
T3 Tristar Syncro RHD SOLD

[ShootingFish]

[syncrodoka]

There is a higher bulb output but the DOT lenses dissipate the light and it makes the improvement negligible.
There are E-code headlight assemblies that are sometimes available but the cost is high. They direct the light output much better than the US spec units.

[ShootingFish]

I totally get that... Though it seems that the e-codes are not only expensive, but nearly impossible to locate.

Throw into this the fact that the current vanagon square lights are no longer in production, we are going to be between a rock and a tough spot in the not too distant future. That is why I am looking for some other options. It is sounding like the Ciebe E-Codes with Saab adjusters may be the way to go, or projectors, though it looks like those could be too deep to fit...
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SF

Props aren't just for boats....

'88 2WD ALH-TDI Westy
'90 Syncro 16 Doka

[a914622]

I was at the same spot your in know. I just picked up a set of Cebies form a wrecking yard. One thing i noticed was stamped right on the light is 70/60W. Im going to trade out one of the hellas i have in there now and see if there is any differance in light output using the same bulbs.
I did look at the 411 and the lights are way wrong.


jcl
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[K58]

[ALIKA T3]

some people have mounted in Europe the old eurovan lights,not the same look though

I think we have to look at lenses that are pretty flat because of the body metal behind...like the Projektzwo ones.

Good luck finding something that fits nicely

[a914622]

[ALIKA T3]

I think I saw your picture on another thread:you're right,hard to notice on a pic,but I would have noticed in reality.

It's a good match,I just donc like the round corner on the rectangular light....That'd be better looking with same shape square lights,but it's better than nothing,right??

[K58]