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hiram6 Samba Member
Joined: September 29, 2006 Posts: 1880 Location: Beautiful South
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Posted: Wed Oct 27, 2010 6:38 am Post subject: replacement turn signal, marker, and brake bulbs |
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Many of you probably know who Daniel Stern is, or at least have visited his site.
http://www.danielsternlighting.com/
He is focused (pun intended) on the topic of automotive lighting. He knows his stuff, and offers lots of suggestion on improving on the factory designs. I recently contacted him to order one of his high quality 3rd Brake Light Kits. In our e-mail exchanges, he asked me a number of questions about my other lighting choices and wiring on my Westy, and for the most part, liked the improvements I have made.
Headlight relays-check
H4 primary headlights - check, although Hella would not have been his choice, the Cibie H4 would have been better.
South African grille with aux high beams - check
Third brake light - I'm ordering it, model #39 on his site, btw.
So far so good, right?
Then he dropped this little nugget into his e-mail. Remember, he can't sell me these parts, so no profit in him sharing this with me.
The brake lights and turn signals can be made 40% brighter, but I can't sell you those bulbs. You can get the required bulbs (which have nice nickel-plate bases that will not corrode and seize in the sockets) from your local Honda dealer. Part number for the single-filament variety (replacing 1141, 1156, 1073, or P21W) is 34903-SF1-A01. Part number for the dual-filament variety (replacing 1034, 1157, 2057, 2357, or P21/5W in brake/tail or park/turn lights) is 34906-SL0-A01. Don't try to buy these bulbs in the aftermarket; everything but the genuine Honda product is junk. These are ultrapremium bulbs with very long lifespan, corrosion-proof nickelplate base, etc.
I asked his permission to cut and paste here. Looks like I'm heading to the Honda dealer soon. _________________ 1985 Westy, 1.9L automatic (Daisy)
1996 Mazda Miata
1998 Jeep Grand Cherokee 5.9 Limited
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GBA 88West LA Samba Member
Joined: September 04, 2008 Posts: 1279 Location: New Hampshire
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Posted: Wed Oct 27, 2010 7:25 am Post subject: |
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thanks for the post & info _________________ 88 Westy GL Vanaru 07 2.5 EJ25/AA Trans/oiling plates, 1.14 3rd-.77-4th..solar powered cabin |
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Wellington Samba Member
Joined: September 21, 2004 Posts: 1884 Location: Montreal
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Posted: Wed Oct 27, 2010 9:48 am Post subject: |
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That is great info, the only two brands of cars i have, VW and Honda.
Funny, VW parts guy won't give me a discount but my Honda guy does. |
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ALIKA T3 Samba Member
Joined: July 30, 2009 Posts: 6351 Location: Honolulu,Hawaii and France
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Posted: Wed Oct 27, 2010 4:57 pm Post subject: |
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That's great,I wanted to buy the brighter ones from Terry Kay one of these days
Local pick up mo' betta!! |
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RCB Samba Member
Joined: September 05, 2005 Posts: 4143 Location: San Francisco-Bay Area
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Posted: Wed Oct 27, 2010 5:42 pm Post subject: |
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Can these bulbs be used without doing any wiring upgrades ? |
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hiram6 Samba Member
Joined: September 29, 2006 Posts: 1880 Location: Beautiful South
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Posted: Wed Oct 27, 2010 5:49 pm Post subject: |
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Yep, should be plug and play. They are just better quality versions of the bulbs you have there now. Wouldn't surprise me if these are the same or equivalent to what TK is selling. Wherever you get them, better bulbs is mo'better!!! _________________ 1985 Westy, 1.9L automatic (Daisy)
1996 Mazda Miata
1998 Jeep Grand Cherokee 5.9 Limited
You can't lie around on the beach and drink rum all day.................unless you start first thing in the morning. |
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RCB Samba Member
Joined: September 05, 2005 Posts: 4143 Location: San Francisco-Bay Area
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Posted: Wed Oct 27, 2010 5:53 pm Post subject: |
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Good deal thankx for the write up. |
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indytriple Samba Member
Joined: April 27, 2009 Posts: 710 Location: Brownsburg, Indiana
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Posted: Wed Oct 27, 2010 8:31 pm Post subject: |
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Great post!
Dumb question...
What quantity of each part number do I need to replace these bulbs on my van? _________________ "See The Glass As Already Broken."
87 Vanagon Westy Auto Bostig
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RCB Samba Member
Joined: September 05, 2005 Posts: 4143 Location: San Francisco-Bay Area
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Posted: Wed Oct 27, 2010 8:46 pm Post subject: |
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Heres what I came up with for my 1982 Westy. Ordered them from www.hondapartsnow.com. Honda Dealer in California.
2..part number 34901-SB0-671 single filament....$1.03 each
6..part number 34906-SL0-A01 double filiment...$3.72 each
2...part number 34903-SF1-A01 single filiment....$3.69 each
This will give you all the bulbs needed for the front turn signals and all the bulbs inside both rear brake housing units.
Still looking for the side marker bulbs. |
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78BayDriver Samba Member
Joined: September 27, 2007 Posts: 247
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Posted: Wed Oct 27, 2010 8:55 pm Post subject: |
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I was just going to replace the rear red side marker lights with after market LED Red trailer lights you can get from Walmart... I dunno, the look good on my trailer, and are roughly the safe size in diameter, just a little taller than the stock. I am curious.. Maybe I willl buy a set and try them out... BTW, great post....
Michael _________________ 1987 Vanagon GL 2.1 Flat Stanley (present)
1991 Golf GTi Forest Green
1981 Vanagon L 1.6 Diesel
1978 BayWindow Bus
1974 Bus
1990 Jetta
1979 Dasher Wagon
1972 Beetle |
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RCWesty Samba Member
Joined: April 06, 2007 Posts: 182 Location: Reno NV
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Posted: Wed Oct 27, 2010 9:08 pm Post subject: |
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It would be great to see a comparison photo when you get these babies installed..
thanks for posting.. _________________ 89 Burgundy Westy (sold)
90 Blue Syncro Westy |
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ALIKA T3 Samba Member
Joined: July 30, 2009 Posts: 6351 Location: Honolulu,Hawaii and France
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Posted: Wed Oct 27, 2010 10:48 pm Post subject: |
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RCB wrote: |
Heres what I came up with for my 1982 Westy. Ordered them from www.hondapartsnow.com. Honda Dealer in California.
2..part number 34901-SB0-671 single filament....$1.03 each
6..part number 34906-SL0-A01 double filiment...$3.72 each
2...part number 34903-SF1-A01 single filiment....$3.69 each
This will give you all the bulbs needed for the front turn signals and all the bulbs inside both rear brake housing units.
Still looking for the side marker bulbs. |
How come there is 2 kind of single filament?? I'm sure you have the correct answer.maybe you can put the affectation for each one?
I'm running single filament on my blinkers,since I put every thing like in europe....but in 8 years,I never bought a single light bulb,always took it from a junk van or car So I don't know what needed:that's kinda funny |
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RCB Samba Member
Joined: September 05, 2005 Posts: 4143 Location: San Francisco-Bay Area
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Posted: Thu Oct 28, 2010 6:57 am Post subject: |
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The tail light bulb 34901-SB0-671 is a 12V/5W bulb. You can safely identify it as its the smaller of the four bulbs in the tail light assembly. The other single filiment bulb 34903-SF1-A01 is the back up bulb and its 12V/21W. |
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78BayDriver Samba Member
Joined: September 27, 2007 Posts: 247
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Posted: Thu Oct 28, 2010 7:19 am Post subject: |
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RCWesty wrote: |
It would be great to see a comparison photo when you get these babies installed..
thanks for posting.. |
will do... Maybe this Saturday... Check back, will start different thread... _________________ 1987 Vanagon GL 2.1 Flat Stanley (present)
1991 Golf GTi Forest Green
1981 Vanagon L 1.6 Diesel
1978 BayWindow Bus
1974 Bus
1990 Jetta
1979 Dasher Wagon
1972 Beetle |
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RCB Samba Member
Joined: September 05, 2005 Posts: 4143 Location: San Francisco-Bay Area
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Posted: Thu Oct 28, 2010 2:19 pm Post subject: |
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Greetings guys and gals. I might have to stand corrected on my earlier posting about the Honda bulbs.
I thought that since the front turn signal was a double filiment lamp, the rear turn signal would also be a double filiment bulb as well.
This morning I removed the front turn signal lense and did verify that it was indeed a double filiment bulb (34906-SL0-A01).
However when I removed the rear light housing to double check, I found that just about ALL the bulbs were in fact a single filiment bulb (34903-SF1-A01)
The tail light bulb IS a single filiment bulb and the part number is (34901-SB0-671)
I replaced the bulbs about 4 years ago and when I did I slathered some dialectic grease on the bottoms of each bulb. Today when I removed them to verify the size and type I was pleasantly surprised that the bulbs popped right out of their sockets and there wasnt a sign of any rust.
Thanks all for the grease tip
Still curious to as why the front turn signal bulbs have a double filiment and two contact points whereas the rear bulbs would only have a single filiment and only one contact point. |
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James 93SLC Samba Member
Joined: January 21, 2009 Posts: 937 Location: NE Ohio
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Posted: Thu Oct 28, 2010 2:35 pm Post subject: |
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RCB wrote: |
Still curious to as why the front turn signal bulbs have a double filiment and two contact points whereas the rear bulbs would only have a single filiment and only one contact point. |
The front is a parking lamp and turn signal, hence the dual filament. _________________ -------------------------
91 Vanagon Carat
93 Corrado SLC
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Photos: http://picasaweb.google.com/slc.corrado
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tencentlife "Sometimes a pooka is a problem and sometimes it's just a pooka" |
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RCB Samba Member
Joined: September 05, 2005 Posts: 4143 Location: San Francisco-Bay Area
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Posted: Thu Oct 28, 2010 2:42 pm Post subject: |
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James 93SLC wrote: |
RCB wrote: |
Still curious to as why the front turn signal bulbs have a double filiment and two contact points whereas the rear bulbs would only have a single filiment and only one contact point. |
The front is a parking lamp and turn signal, hence the dual filament. |
Thankx James...another ?? , would a 12VP 21W work in a socket that actually accepts a 12V25W bulb, and will it behave itself or cause a problem. |
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James 93SLC Samba Member
Joined: January 21, 2009 Posts: 937 Location: NE Ohio
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Posted: Thu Oct 28, 2010 3:03 pm Post subject: |
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Should work fine I believe. It's 4W lower so it won't be as bright...but not by much. _________________ -------------------------
91 Vanagon Carat
93 Corrado SLC
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Photos: http://picasaweb.google.com/slc.corrado
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tencentlife "Sometimes a pooka is a problem and sometimes it's just a pooka" |
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RCB Samba Member
Joined: September 05, 2005 Posts: 4143 Location: San Francisco-Bay Area
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Posted: Thu Oct 28, 2010 3:09 pm Post subject: |
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Thanks James |
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dhaavers Samba Member
Joined: March 19, 2010 Posts: 7756 Location: NE MN (tinyurl.com/dhaaverslocation)
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Posted: Thu Oct 28, 2010 6:13 pm Post subject: |
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RCB wrote: |
... I might have to stand corrected on my earlier posting about the Honda bulbs... |
So...can someone please put together a nice <corrected> shopping list including where each type goes? ...& what about side marker lights? That'd be awesome.
I tend to print these kernels of wisdom & deal with them later when I can...
Thanks, all! _________________ 86 White Wolfsburg Westy Weekender
"The WonderVan"
<EDITED TO PROTECT INNOCENT PIXELS> |
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