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PostPosted: Sun Oct 31, 2010 12:17 am    Post subject: floor pan/interior resto Reply with quote

So, I have decided to remove all the crappy paint and bs that is covering the OG White on the inside and outside of my bug. I wanna rock the OG paint. But first, I need to pull my carpet, seats, and the rest of my interior and start from the ground up. So I chose to take a look at my pans (never done this before). At first, it scared the shit out of me. Then, I used some cleaner and a scraper and realized its pretty much just surface rust. But boy, did it look bad as you will see in the first pic. My plan is to wire wheel the pans, and coat them up nice. Here is where I am at now.

The initial unveiling.
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After a little bit of scraping.
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I also decided to start working on my seats.
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This is as far as I got today....I will post more pictures as I progress, and hopefully will have much better pans after doing this. Also, next I will start on bringing out the og paint as well.
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PostPosted: Sun Oct 31, 2010 1:39 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I feel your pain. I started my 66 with the wheels, really starting from the ground up. Cleaning the interior is a slow process. Wait til you take the old tar boards out of the door and qtr. panels.
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PostPosted: Sun Oct 31, 2010 5:20 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Well, IF your Orange County location is indeed Southern California (and not one of the multiple OTHER Orange Counties in the USA, such as Florida and New York among others) Then it is very interesting to see that you people who dwell in the land of sun also have serious floor pan rust caused by the "tar" boards installed by VW.

This link may be of interest to you going 0n in the Ghia Forums.

http://www.thesamba.com/vw/forum/viewtopic.php?t=437629

A suggestion, get all of the tar off of the floor pan before you wire brush. IT will gum up the wire wheel and also be smeared and distributed else where on the pan and you'll end up cleaning that area as well.

Use a heat gun or torch and heat it up until it goes glossy, scrape as much as possible off with a putty knife. Heat it again and wipe it away with a rag soaked in solvent, I used lacquer thinner, it works really well.... but ..... and this is a really really big BUT.....DO NOT ALLOW THE RAG TO CONTACT THE TORCH FLAME!!!!!

Believe, I KNOW why !!!! Embarassed Embarassed Embarassed

FYI Here is a photo of my floor pan on my 70 Ghia Convertible..... Count your blessings you don't live in a extreme ROT State!

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PostPosted: Sun Oct 31, 2010 8:13 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Aynthm - thanks for the heads up. I know its gonna be brutal. I've already replaced everything down low, new beam, spindles, wheel bearings, disc brakes, tie rods, ball joints, steering damper, I still need to install my new steering box, and new urethane steering coupler. All brakes lines have also been replaced.
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PostPosted: Sun Oct 31, 2010 8:16 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Dave - that's the first step I am tackling as you can see in the pics. Thanks for the tip. I will make sure to remove it completely before taking the wire wheel to it. I'm also gonna go check out the link to that thread you posted. Ya, its amazing there is rust considering I'm in California. Although, who knows where this car has been. Maybe east coast?
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PostPosted: Mon Nov 01, 2010 6:02 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

lucille66, I use bar clamps to compress the seat springs when putting on the cover. Plywood and two clamps. Makes the work easy.
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PostPosted: Tue Nov 02, 2010 4:15 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Runamoc, great tip for compressing the springs, I will do that!
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PostPosted: Sun Nov 21, 2010 5:24 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Got some wire wheel time and some sanding time in this weekend.

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OG white.
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Sanding the green off and getting the body smooth.

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PostPosted: Sun Nov 21, 2010 6:44 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Looking good!
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PostPosted: Sun Nov 21, 2010 7:01 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thanks. It's gettin there. Need another few sessions on the pan. I'm gonna paint the entire car antique white inside and out. But the right way this time. My seats are coming out better too.
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PostPosted: Sun Nov 21, 2010 7:07 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

looking good!

cant wait to see it done! Cool
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PostPosted: Sun Nov 21, 2010 7:15 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Also, I am going to be welding on the front clip...and a rear clip if I can find cheap clean one. Picked up a super clean front clip at pomona....$40.
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PostPosted: Sun Nov 21, 2010 7:30 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

IMHO these work 100X better than a wire wheel.
http://www.google.com/products/catalog?hl=en&q...CoQ8wIwAw#
They also have ones with 1/4" shank you use with a regular 3/8" drill, link is just to illustrate the disc itself. You can find them at Lowes/Home Depot etc too.
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PostPosted: Mon Nov 22, 2010 1:20 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thanks for tip. I saw those!! I was wondering if they would work better or not....
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PostPosted: Mon Nov 22, 2010 3:28 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Replace that center brake line.
Do it NOW!
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PostPosted: Mon Nov 22, 2010 9:09 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Noted.
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PostPosted: Thu Nov 25, 2010 3:12 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

My workspace. And my 85lb pitbull. His name is Batman.

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The "new" clip for the front. I will be cleaning it up, sanding it down, and welding it.

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PostPosted: Thu Dec 09, 2010 3:32 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

61SNRF wrote:
IMHO these work 100X better than a wire wheel.
http://www.google.com/products/catalog?hl=en&q...CoQ8wIwAw#
They also have ones with 1/4" shank you use with a regular 3/8" drill, link is just to illustrate the disc itself. You can find them at Lowes/Home Depot etc too.


61SNRF, How long do those discs last? I've been wire wheeling and it's slow going. I still have a bit to do. Do they wear down to a smaller and smaller disc like my metal cut offs do?

Thanks for the tip.
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PostPosted: Thu Dec 09, 2010 6:10 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

i would have killed to have had floor pans that nice! good work man, batman's gorgeous.
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PostPosted: Thu Dec 09, 2010 8:07 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Aynthm wrote:
61SNRF wrote:
IMHO these work 100X better than a wire wheel.
http://www.google.com/products/catalog?hl=en&q...CoQ8wIwAw#
They also have ones with 1/4" shank you use with a regular 3/8" drill, link is just to illustrate the disc itself. You can find them at Lowes/Home Depot etc too.


61SNRF, How long do those discs last? I've been wire wheeling and it's slow going. I still have a bit to do. Do they wear down to a smaller and smaller disc like my metal cut offs do?

Thanks for the tip.

You're welcome, always glad to help.
Yes, they wear down smaller and smaller. You can get about IDK, 6-10 square feet at least, maybe more before the'ye used up. The harder you bare down on them, the faster they wear, so it has some to do with how aggressive you get. Once worn smaller, they fit into tighter spaces though, so it's good to save them for those instances where you need them.
From the HW store, they are made as one unit, arbor and disc, but the professional grade versions have a separete arbor and once you have one you only buy the discs, a little savings in the long run. You can get those at auto paint/supply stores or jobbers.
In the deep corners where no power tool will reach, I use an old Barlow pocket knife to scrap the rust off.
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