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human compass Samba Member
Joined: June 04, 2013 Posts: 423 Location: Flagstaff,AZ
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awesome! thanks! _________________ 84 Westy Syncro- 3.3L SVX stage 2 tune,subaru gears 6speed with tbd, front locker, porche brakes x4, aux tank, radflo susp |
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BigBlueWesty Samba Member
Joined: October 06, 2014 Posts: 23 Location: Colorado
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subter wrote: |
It's a dimmer switch located in the top of the shelf above the light on the right end. |
Sorry to reply to such an old post. But did you remove the existing galley light? That goes for most of you that installed led lights over the stove counter. Is the galley light removed? Do you tap into the power supply from the removed galley light?
Thanks for the great posts. |
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ThankYouJerry Samba Member
Joined: September 01, 2012 Posts: 2271 Location: Shakedown Street
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Jake de Villiers wrote: |
And the recommended part number is...? |
Depends which bulb (door, map, etc). The site is simple to search. Easy to find what you need there. _________________ 1990 Multivan - "Ohana"
1.8T, Auto w/3.27 R&P + Peloquin TBD |
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madspaniard Samba Member
Joined: August 18, 2008 Posts: 3795 Location: Alameda, CA
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Thanks, this is the way to go for me. I had installed two of the Eurovan fluorescent lights above the sink, stove and cabinets. I will replace them with two of these warm white LED bars. _________________ 1991 Westy auto w/ Peloquin TBD
"The only difference between me and a madman is that I'm not mad” - Salvador Dali |
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joetiger Samba Member
Joined: January 27, 2005 Posts: 5078 Location: denver
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ThankYouJerry wrote: |
Superbrightleds.com sells LED festoon style bulbs in both single and double LED rows. They also offer cool, natural, and warm color choices. |
I ordered a couple of these a while back and finally installed one last night.
I previously had the cold cathode conversion outlined here:
http://www.thesamba.com/vw/forum/viewtopic.php?t=267794&highlight=cold+cathode
I found the cold cathode light to be just that: cold. Very white, it made me feel like I was in my office building. And when I'm in my Vanagon, the last place on earth I want to be thinking about is the life-sucking sterility of my office building.
The warm LED's are definitely an upgrade. I really like the 180 degree rotation feature as well. I mounted one in the standard Weekender spot:
I plan on putting the other one to the rear/under the back shelf, so it can be used for reading at night, or working on the motor, or (rotated back) for extra light shining out of the hatch. I'm hoping to get to it tonight so I'll add a photo or two once I'm done. _________________ Joe T.
'86 NAHT Vanagon GL Syncro/ supercharged ABA 2.0 "Pigpen"
'04 GTI 1.8T
'04 Golf R32
"get metaphysical with it. if it's simply a means to get to and from places, it will let you down. if it becomes your zen, it can't fail you." -dabaron
"Still, it's good to be afield."--VWagabond
Available Now! Vanagon to Louisiana--A Two-Lane Reckoning Through Past and Present
www.josephtrussell.com |
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shadetreetim Samba Member
Joined: January 10, 2011 Posts: 1994 Location: Riverside, California
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Posted: Wed Mar 11, 2015 10:12 am Post subject: |
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I recently added these little 3 bulb LED's above the engine hatch. With a switch accessible from the rear or when lying in bed.
Switch is indicated by red arrow
Engine is illuminated enough to check oil, etc.
Having camped with these now, it was great to simply reach up and turn on a light while lying in bed. Before I had to sit up and feel around for the stock interior light.
Now I'm wondering where else I should put them. Under the dash? On the bottom of the door to illuminate the ground while door is open? They came in a roll of 20 light pods. _________________ Tim Potts
Doing my best every time I drive it to dispel the myth these Vanagons have to be slow!
'89 Vanagon Bluestar/Country Homes 1.8T & .77 4th
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Jake de Villiers Samba Member
Joined: October 24, 2007 Posts: 5911 Location: Tsawwassen, BC
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Posted: Wed Mar 11, 2015 10:36 am Post subject: |
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joetiger wrote: |
The warm LED's are definitely an upgrade. I really like the 180 degree rotation feature as well. I mounted one in the standard Weekender spot:
I plan on putting the other one to the rear/under the back shelf, so it can be used for reading at night, or working on the motor, or (rotated back) for extra light shining out of the hatch. I'm hoping to get to it tonight so I'll add a photo or two once I'm done. |
I just installed one of these the other day. Its a nice improvement from the stock fluorescent.
Even with a warm white tube in it, the fluorescent put as much light into your eyes as it did on the subject at hand. The swivel means that you can keep it out of your eyes easily. Very nice. _________________ '84 Vanagon GL 1.9 WBX
'86 Westy Weekender Poptop/2.5 Subaru/5 Speed Posi/Audi Front Brakes/16 x 7 Mercedes Wheels - answers to 'Dixie'
@jakedevilliersmusic1
http://sites.google.com/site/subyjake/mydixiedarlin%27
www.crescentbeachguitar.com
www.thebassspa.com |
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joetiger Samba Member
Joined: January 27, 2005 Posts: 5078 Location: denver
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Posted: Sun Mar 15, 2015 10:50 am Post subject: |
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I installed a second one yesterday, up under the A/C shelf in the back. I tapped into the one above the table for power.
Setting up my fish tape:
Feeding through the hole:
I got lucky and the feed just popped right out the other side:
Drilled a couple of holes to feed the wires through and mounted the LED bar:
It works! The cool thing about putting it here is that it can be a reading light, a light for working on the motor, and with it rotated out, it lights up the open hatch area.
(I gotta do something about that trippy melted trim...)
ETA: I was concerned about the light blocking my view from the rearview mirror, but the angle is such that I don't see it back there. _________________ Joe T.
'86 NAHT Vanagon GL Syncro/ supercharged ABA 2.0 "Pigpen"
'04 GTI 1.8T
'04 Golf R32
"get metaphysical with it. if it's simply a means to get to and from places, it will let you down. if it becomes your zen, it can't fail you." -dabaron
"Still, it's good to be afield."--VWagabond
Available Now! Vanagon to Louisiana--A Two-Lane Reckoning Through Past and Present
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Tsavelle Samba Member
Joined: September 10, 2014 Posts: 7 Location: Pacific Northwest
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Posted: Wed Apr 15, 2015 7:14 pm Post subject: |
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Here are some images of my execution on this subject. Just a snippet here, I have more images posted in my gallery.
I must thank climberjohn for starting this thread and getting the inspiration rolling, timwhy for the tip about running wire behind the shelf without actually removing the shelf, and to heliodon for the inspiration to use angle-stock for the valance. There are too many others to thank for the suggested materials and online sources, and for contributing to collective development and vetting of this idea.
My goals from the onset were to:
1. Modernize the lighting plan with modern materials
2. Decrease the glare from the factory fixture
3. Create a dimmable solution that would allow brightness for tasks, or gentle ambient light for relaxing
4. Improve task lighting over the galley
5. Eliminate exposed and dangling wires from PO’s lighting solution above the rear seat
I had a single design directive: the fixture needed to be invisible. To an untrained eye, I wanted the aesthetic that it “came from the factory like that”.
Based on previous posts I concluded I wanted two LED strips to accomplish my task lighting goals, and I would use angle stock to create the fixture. I ran the angle the entire length of the shelf to make it as un-obtrusive as possible. I used 1”x1”x.125” angle stock and painted it to match the existing interior colors. In the end, I find it as invisible as is possible. I also got super OCD and painted the screw heads I used for mounting. Even though they are not outward facing, I feel this is a more completely “finished” solution. (Thanks to Houstonphotog for that tip from his blog.)
I obsessed over switch options. I wanted everything in a central location that was easily reached from both a seated and a standing position. I also wanted a round rocker switch. I reasoned that the aesthetic of a round switch would please the sensitivities of a German designer (see: “came from the factory like that”). I struggled to find a rocker switch that was not 7/8” in diameter. While I am not yet sold on the red, the form-factor of what I ultimately sourced is perfect. I wanted a low-profile solution, and the full size rocker would have required much larger angle dimensions to accommodate the switch. This mini-switch required a smaller through-hole, easily accommodated by my 1” aluminum stock.
I also wanted a dimmer knob in a permanent mount, as opposed to an in-line dimmer like many have used. I found a PWM dimmer with remote rheostat; as above, this choice allowed me to us a slimmer profile angle stock. The rheostat is mounted forward-facing through the valance. The circuit board I mounted to the shelf close by, offset with some plastic washers to create clearance.
I wanted to completely eliminate parasitic draw, hence the dimmer and the rocker in tandem. I discovered that most (all?) dimmers retain some current draw even when in “off” position. For long-term storage, I wanted zero draw so I added the switch.
A corollary benefit to this project: I was able to hide the wiring for the existing lighting over the rear seat by fishing it into the space behind the shelf, and to power I had already run to the closet. Again – thanks to timwhy for this tip. The dangling wires from PO were inelegant, at best.
Parts:
Angle stock came from onlinemetals.com. They were easy to work with, and have an amazing selection of raw material. I fortunately live near one of their will-call locations, but they do ship. I discovered that Rustoleum has a basic brown that nearly matches the interior. The difference is almost indiscernible.
LED tape came from superbrightleds.com. I opted for warm-white. Their customer service team was responsive and helpful when I posed questions to them. I used two 20” self-adhesive strips, and trimmed 3” off of each side. I don’t think I needed it, and plan to use the off-cuts in another project at a later date. Maybe the glove box, or something around the center console.
Dimmer switch w/ wired remote came from Pilotlights.net. They were also very responsive and helpful when I posed questions to them.
The mini-rocker switch came from Vetco Electronics; vetco.net online. If you happen to live in the Seattle metro area – you owe yourself a visit (Bellevue). It is a wonderland of parts and oddities. The staff is extra helpful and very knowledgeable. I think one could spend hours in there wondering and wandering the isles.
Vetco was also the source of the braided expanding wire management sleeve I used to keep my bundle neat. I will never go back to the corrugated plastic management option. This expansion sleeve requires a little up-front planning, but the result is much more professional and tidy; it is also lower bulk.
Once again – thank you to the myriad of folks that have contributed to this thread. I’ve read and re-read every post and they were all informative to me in formulating my plan.
_________________ "Even an asshole can enrich your life." K. Liebetanz
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newfisher Samba Member
Joined: January 05, 2012 Posts: 1764 Location: The wet spot--Oregon
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Posted: Wed Oct 14, 2015 7:23 pm Post subject: |
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Tosed up some multi color remote controlled strips on each side of the ac tube. Tons of light, dimmable and gets your party on |
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Xevin Samba Member
Joined: January 08, 2014 Posts: 7628
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Posted: Thu Oct 15, 2015 7:18 am Post subject: |
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^^^DUDE! Are those new? Never noticed them before. You and your light show keeps getting better and better. You need to put some of those fancy lights in your roof top box and along the canopy rail that pulsate to the music
(He does) _________________ Keep on Busin'
67rustavenger wrote: |
GFY's Xevin and VW_Jimbo! |
Clatter wrote: |
Damn that Xevin... |
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I respect Xevin and he's a turd |
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My God! Xevin and I 100% agree |
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Team WorldTour Samba Member
Joined: September 02, 2010 Posts: 2426 Location: Der Vaterland
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Posted: Thu Oct 29, 2015 10:30 am Post subject: |
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Here are some pictures of my LED set-up:
_________________ 1990 Feldjäger Syncro AAZ
Click to view image
H6 Subaru Engine Swap Thread
WV2ZZZ25ZFH094138(x)/ WV2YB0257LH057308(x)/ WV2ZZZ25ZLG113270/
"Where am I going? And what am I doing in this handbasket?" -Nicodemus Jordan
When All Else Fails: Lather, Rinse, Repeat! |
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newfisher Samba Member
Joined: January 05, 2012 Posts: 1764 Location: The wet spot--Oregon
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Posted: Thu Oct 29, 2015 12:36 pm Post subject: |
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Xevin wrote: |
^^^DUDE! Are those new? Never noticed them before. You and your light show keeps getting better and better. You need to put some of those fancy lights in your roof top box and along the canopy rail that pulsate to the music
(He does) |
They are so cheap and fun to use. I just ordered 32 continuous feet of "black" background strip and am planning something with it -hehe |
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professorplumb Samba Member
Joined: November 16, 2009 Posts: 98 Location: CA
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Posted: Thu Oct 29, 2015 4:37 pm Post subject: |
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newfisher, those look spiffy! Where did you tap into for power?
Also, where did you get the cargo net in front of the evaporator compartment? That is a very helpful storage solution. |
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newfisher Samba Member
Joined: January 05, 2012 Posts: 1764 Location: The wet spot--Oregon
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Posted: Thu Oct 29, 2015 5:00 pm Post subject: |
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I ordered the cargo net from Amazon. I can not remember the size, just measured the area I wanted and ordered the net just undersized so it would be taught when hung.
The power wire runs down the left D pillar into my Blue Seas fuse panel. The remote eye sticks out of the top of the finish panel on the same D pilar |
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captainkarl Samba Member
Joined: January 08, 2010 Posts: 16 Location: San Antonio
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Posted: Sun Nov 15, 2015 7:28 pm Post subject: |
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Tsavelle wrote: |
Here are some images of my execution on this subject. Just a snippet here, I have more images posted in my gallery.
I must thank climberjohn for starting this thread and getting the inspiration rolling, timwhy for the tip about running wire behind the shelf without actually removing the shelf, and to heliodon for the inspiration to use angle-stock for the valance. There are too many others to thank for the suggested materials and online sources, and for contributing to collective development and vetting of this idea.
My goals from the onset were to:
1. Modernize the lighting plan with modern materials
2. Decrease the glare from the factory fixture
3. Create a dimmable solution that would allow brightness for tasks, or gentle ambient light for relaxing
4. Improve task lighting over the galley
5. Eliminate exposed and dangling wires from PO’s lighting solution above the rear seat
I had a single design directive: the fixture needed to be invisible. To an untrained eye, I wanted the aesthetic that it “came from the factory like that”.
Based on previous posts I concluded I wanted two LED strips to accomplish my task lighting goals, and I would use angle stock to create the fixture. I ran the angle the entire length of the shelf to make it as un-obtrusive as possible. I used 1”x1”x.125” angle stock and painted it to match the existing interior colors. In the end, I find it as invisible as is possible. I also got super OCD and painted the screw heads I used for mounting. Even though they are not outward facing, I feel this is a more completely “finished” solution. (Thanks to Houstonphotog for that tip from his blog.)
I obsessed over switch options. I wanted everything in a central location that was easily reached from both a seated and a standing position. I also wanted a round rocker switch. I reasoned that the aesthetic of a round switch would please the sensitivities of a German designer (see: “came from the factory like that”). I struggled to find a rocker switch that was not 7/8” in diameter. While I am not yet sold on the red, the form-factor of what I ultimately sourced is perfect. I wanted a low-profile solution, and the full size rocker would have required much larger angle dimensions to accommodate the switch. This mini-switch required a smaller through-hole, easily accommodated by my 1” aluminum stock.
I also wanted a dimmer knob in a permanent mount, as opposed to an in-line dimmer like many have used. I found a PWM dimmer with remote rheostat; as above, this choice allowed me to us a slimmer profile angle stock. The rheostat is mounted forward-facing through the valance. The circuit board I mounted to the shelf close by, offset with some plastic washers to create clearance.
I wanted to completely eliminate parasitic draw, hence the dimmer and the rocker in tandem. I discovered that most (all?) dimmers retain some current draw even when in “off” position. For long-term storage, I wanted zero draw so I added the switch.
A corollary benefit to this project: I was able to hide the wiring for the existing lighting over the rear seat by fishing it into the space behind the shelf, and to power I had already run to the closet. Again – thanks to timwhy for this tip. The dangling wires from PO were inelegant, at best.
Parts:
Angle stock came from onlinemetals.com. They were easy to work with, and have an amazing selection of raw material. I fortunately live near one of their will-call locations, but they do ship. I discovered that Rustoleum has a basic brown that nearly matches the interior. The difference is almost indiscernible.
LED tape came from superbrightleds.com. I opted for warm-white. Their customer service team was responsive and helpful when I posed questions to them. I used two 20” self-adhesive strips, and trimmed 3” off of each side. I don’t think I needed it, and plan to use the off-cuts in another project at a later date. Maybe the glove box, or something around the center console.
Dimmer switch w/ wired remote came from Pilotlights.net. They were also very responsive and helpful when I posed questions to them.
The mini-rocker switch came from Vetco Electronics; vetco.net online. If you happen to live in the Seattle metro area – you owe yourself a visit (Bellevue). It is a wonderland of parts and oddities. The staff is extra helpful and very knowledgeable. I think one could spend hours in there wondering and wandering the isles.
Vetco was also the source of the braided expanding wire management sleeve I used to keep my bundle neat. I will never go back to the corrugated plastic management option. This expansion sleeve requires a little up-front planning, but the result is much more professional and tidy; it is also lower bulk.
Once again – thank you to the myriad of folks that have contributed to this thread. I’ve read and re-read every post and they were all informative to me in formulating my plan.
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Looks great, could you post some more detail shots of how you fit everything? |
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[email protected] Samba Member
Joined: April 29, 2015 Posts: 704 Location: Berkeley Ca
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Posted: Mon Nov 16, 2015 4:01 pm Post subject: Re: Flexible LED lights for interior van lighting |
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Looks great, could you post some more detail shots of how you fit everything? |
X2 I too want to put a shield on the leds so the light only points down. I was thinking of cutting a dado in the shelf, but angle iron might be a better option |
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Timwhy Samba Member
Joined: January 01, 2009 Posts: 4002 Location: Maine
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ThankYouJerry Samba Member
Joined: September 01, 2012 Posts: 2271 Location: Shakedown Street
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Posted: Sat Jan 30, 2016 10:27 pm Post subject: Re: Flexible LED lights for interior van lighting |
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Great upgrade! Great Samba vendor! Highly recommended!
http://www.thesamba.com/vw/classifieds/detail.php?id=1695181
Here is an easy place to tie the positive wire into power (besides the recommended cig lighter):
The negative wire is tied into the door switch wire directly above the + wire in my photo (per the directions sent with the kit).
Thank you Adrian (supdude)!!! _________________ 1990 Multivan - "Ohana"
1.8T, Auto w/3.27 R&P + Peloquin TBD
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SteveVanB Samba Member
Joined: June 01, 2008 Posts: 1645 Location: This side of Daytona
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Posted: Sun Jan 31, 2016 9:00 am Post subject: Re: Flexible LED lights for interior van lighting |
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Not sure if this is the proper thread, but I was at the local junk yard a while back and found some LED's in a Ford Focus. Come to find out they were multi color ones. I believe they had 3 leads and a multitude of colors. Hooking up certain wires produced different colors....pretty spiffy _________________ 91 CARAT |
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