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PostPosted: Tue Nov 23, 2010 5:39 pm    Post subject: Thext94's '67 Baja Reply with quote

I never really started a build thread on my baja because it wasn't much of a build. More like a restore i guess...but here goes!
This is my first VW, but my dad has had 3 or 4 since he was a kid. I got it in February of this year. Looked like this when I picked it up

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Did some cleaning up on the inside and outside. Then made a big trip to Moore Parts. Got two new suspension seats, 4-point harnesses, new shift bushing, and other miscellaneous parts. Also picked up centerlines for the rear to match the front

Installing carpet, seats, and harnesses

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Then we took it our for the first trip, an 80 mile poker run on St.Patrick's day in Parker, AZ.

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It ran great and didn't have any problems.

Brought it home for more upgrades. New BFG KM2's, bilstein front shocks, some painting and polishing

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also made a mount to hold the flag down

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Then recently got a roof rack and light bar made, and this is how it looks now

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Hopefully more upgrades to come soon

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PostPosted: Tue Nov 23, 2010 5:47 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Looking sweet, Dude! Where did that roof rack come from?I want something like that for my Baja. Also those flat back fenders. Do you know where I can get a set?
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PostPosted: Tue Nov 23, 2010 6:03 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

nice bug. are you running the long rear tortion bars and what size are those tires? I like the KM2s. running them on my partners Bronco.
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PostPosted: Tue Nov 23, 2010 10:30 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Looking sweet, Dude! Where did that roof rack come from?I want something like that for my Baja. Also those flat back fenders. Do you know where I can get a set?


Thanks man! I had the roof rack made by my neighbor up in Parker, AZ. I can send some more detailed pics if you want one made like it. It mounts to the cage inside and is also removable. As for the fenders they were from the PO, but they look to me like heavy-duty fiberglass rears trimmed back. You can tell that they have been trimmed from the edge when looking close-up. Wish i could help yo out more on that, let me know if you have any more questions

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nice bug. are you running the long rear tortion bars and what size are those tires? I like the KM2s. running them on my partners Bronco.


By torsion bars do you mean the leafs inside the rear tube? If so i'm not sure what they are, but the back end if pretty soft. Also the tube doesn't extend out past the tire like some do. They're capped off

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As for the tires, they're 31 x 10.5's. I love them so far

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PostPosted: Tue Nov 23, 2010 11:02 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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By torsion bars do you mean the leafs inside the rear tube? If so i'm not sure what they are, but the back end if pretty soft. Also the tube doesn't extend out past the tire like some do. They're capped off


'67 is still a swing axle, which is why the torsion housing is "capped off." IRS in later model Bugs "sticks out."
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PostPosted: Tue Nov 23, 2010 11:11 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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You might consider adding a little extra strength here...awesome bug by the way!
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PostPosted: Tue Nov 23, 2010 11:31 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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'67 is still a swing axle, which is why the torsion housing is "capped off." IRS in later model Bugs "sticks out."


ohh gotcha. makes sense!

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You might consider adding a little extra strength here...awesome bug by the way!


haha yeah i had a post awhile back about that...some people said it wasn't a huge deal so i guess i forgot about it Embarassed but i recently got access to a welder and i've been learning so that might be a good first job. do you think a weld would provide enough strength? thanks!

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PostPosted: Tue Nov 23, 2010 11:43 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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'67 is still a swing axle, which is why the torsion housing is "capped off." IRS in later model Bugs "sticks out."


ohh gotcha. makes sense!

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You might consider adding a little extra strength here...awesome bug by the way!


haha yeah i had a post awhile back about that...some people said it wasn't a huge deal so i guess i forgot about it Embarassed but i recently got access to a welder and i've been learning so that might be a good first job. do you think a weld would provide enough strength? thanks!

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I would probably just weld it up tight... If it wasn't providing some sort of support, my guess is it wouldn't have broken, know what I mean? With that broken, it *may* be allowing some other area to fatigue now... don't know, just looks like an easy fix that could go a long way!
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PostPosted: Wed Nov 24, 2010 12:03 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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'67 is still a swing axle, which is why the torsion housing is "capped off." IRS in later model Bugs "sticks out."


ohh gotcha. makes sense!

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You might consider adding a little extra strength here...awesome bug by the way!


haha yeah i had a post awhile back about that...some people said it wasn't a huge deal so i guess i forgot about it Embarassed but i recently got access to a welder and i've been learning so that might be a good first job. do you think a weld would provide enough strength? thanks!

Tyler


I would probably just weld it up tight... If it wasn't providing some sort of support, my guess is it wouldn't have broken, know what I mean? With that broken, it *may* be allowing some other area to fatigue now... don't know, just looks like an easy fix that could go a long way!


yeah thats a good point. the last thing i need is something more expensive breaking on this thing! now to convince my dad to let me bring it home for the repair...

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PostPosted: Wed Nov 24, 2010 2:22 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

so not all IRS's had them big long bars sticking into the wheel well then?
wow you do learn something every day...bugger for me as that is my tire limiting factor.
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PostPosted: Wed Nov 24, 2010 8:13 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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so not all IRS's had them big long bars sticking into the wheel well then?
wow you do learn something every day...bugger for me as that is my tire limiting factor.


All Factory IRS's did have the long torsion bars sticking out like yours. This is a swing axle that has be converted to IRS and the short torsion bars were used and the swing axle spring plates were cut/drilled to make it the same length as a IRS spring plate.

Common modification to give more tire clearance.

Sweet Baja BTW!
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PostPosted: Wed Nov 24, 2010 8:22 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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PostPosted: Wed Nov 24, 2010 8:46 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

If your baja came stock IRS then you still have the option of cutting the tube and getting shorter torsions though, right? It would provide more tire clearance

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PostPosted: Wed Nov 24, 2010 8:58 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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If your baja came stock IRS then you still have the option of cutting the tube and getting shorter torsions though, right? It would provide more tire clearance

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Cutting the tube? If you are referring to the tube that sticks out of the spring plate, no. Do not cut that tube, the outside end has the splines that the torsion bar goes into. It the tube is cut, there will not be anything for the torsion bar to engage.

Either a swing axle spring plate will have to be cut off and drilled (flat end, not round end) or new aftermarket spring plates are available for a IRS with short torsion bars.
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PostPosted: Wed Nov 24, 2010 9:25 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

The "tube" sticking out is part of the spring plate. The it sticks out to accommodate the longer torsion bar that's inside.

Short bars, closed spring plate covers, short bar spring plates (either cut for IRS or custom part), and a new outer bushing are needed to do the conversion.
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PostPosted: Wed Nov 24, 2010 9:44 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yeah i was referring more to converting it with shorter torsions and everything, if anyone had a problem with tire clearance, like XLR8
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PostPosted: Wed Nov 24, 2010 10:15 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

do you have any pics of the interior? particularly the rear. I wanted to see you cage a little better.
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PostPosted: Wed Nov 24, 2010 10:38 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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do you have any pics of the interior? particularly the rear. I wanted to see you cage a little better.


Yeah definitely. The rear area is a 22(ish) gallon tank instead of seats, and i covered it with a sheet of plywood and then carpeted it. Also have the battery back there with a cut-off switch. As for the cage, it isn't exactly SCORE legal, but i feel i would be pretty safe in a rollover. Rancho shocks mounted to the cage

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If you need any more pics let me know so i can get them when i'm up there this weekend

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PostPosted: Wed Nov 24, 2010 7:10 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

That's a sweet bug. Where did you get the roof rack?
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PostPosted: Wed Nov 24, 2010 9:04 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Looking sweet, Dude! Where did that roof rack come from?I want something like that for my Baja.


Thanks man! I had the roof rack made by my neighbor up in Parker, AZ. I can send some more detailed pics if you want one made like it. It mounts to the cage inside and is also removable.

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