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Did a 64 ragtop exist?
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PostPosted: Thu Dec 02, 2010 10:24 pm    Post subject: Was there ever such a thing as a 64 ragtop? Reply with quote

Or did 64s have a metal sunroof? When did production for ragtops cease?
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PostPosted: Thu Dec 02, 2010 10:29 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Not in the U.S.. 64 and up U.S. cars were metal sunroofs. From what i've read ragtops existed until 67 on foreign type 1s.
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PostPosted: Thu Dec 02, 2010 10:31 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

6Kabrio7 wrote:
Not in the U.S.. 64 and up U.S. cars were metal sunroofs. From what i've read ragtops existed until 67 on foreign type 1s.


Is there anything online regarding that? Also what where the VIN codes for a 1964 ragtop/sunroof?
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PostPosted: Thu Dec 02, 2010 10:39 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Download the progressive refinements and you'll see the ragtop went into the 64 model year, dont remember how far though. Up in the corner, Technical>Manuals>progressive refinements
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PostPosted: Thu Dec 02, 2010 11:20 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Deluxe Type 1s received a metal sunroof as an option starting in 1964.

Standard model Type 1s can be ordered with an optional cloth folding sunroof up until 1967
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PostPosted: Fri Dec 03, 2010 4:43 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

ricky.santillan wrote:
6Kabrio7 wrote:
Not in the U.S.. 64 and up U.S. cars were metal sunroofs. From what i've read ragtops existed until 67 on foreign type 1s.


Is there anything online regarding that? Also what where the VIN codes for a 1964 ragtop/sunroof?


Yes, there is quite a bit of discussion on this site as well as other VW sites around the globe about ragtops to 1967. As mentioned, the progressive refinements clearly mentions the ragtop to 1967.

No, there is no VIN # verification of a ragtop or hardtop car.

The Rags after 1963 were only installed into the standard version. That is no full headliner, lacking chrome, often black steering wheel and dash knobs, single blade bumper, etc.

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PostPosted: Fri Dec 03, 2010 7:16 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Whoever answers poll no is wrong. 1967 model year was last for Ragtop. Deluxe ragtop was dropped after 1963 model year ,but Standard beetle had them as option thru 1967 model year.
vin number will not tell if hardtop or ragtop.
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PostPosted: Fri Dec 03, 2010 5:08 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

bill may wrote:
1967 model year was last for Ragtop. Deluxe ragtop was dropped after 1963 model year ,but Standard beetle had them as option thru 1967 model year.


That's what I wrote yesterday Rolling Eyes
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PostPosted: Fri Dec 03, 2010 5:34 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

RareAir wrote:
Deluxe Type 1s received a metal sunroof as an option starting in 1964.

Standard model Type 1s can be ordered with an optional cloth folding sunroof up until 1967


this is what you wrote yesterday. "up until 1967"
they were built in 1967 also. geez Glenn.
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PostPosted: Fri Dec 03, 2010 5:42 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

bill may wrote:
RareAir wrote:
Deluxe Type 1s received a metal sunroof as an option starting in 1964.

Standard model Type 1s can be ordered with an optional cloth folding sunroof up until 1967


this is what you wrote yesterday. "up until 1967"
they were built in 1967 also. geez Glenn.



Bill has you there... on a technicality! Shocked
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PostPosted: Fri Dec 03, 2010 6:28 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

bill may wrote:
Whoever answers poll no is wrong. 1967 model year was last for Ragtop. Deluxe ragtop was dropped after 1963 model year ,but Standard beetle had them as option thru 1967 model year.
vin number will not tell if hardtop or ragtop.
that's why I didn't vote Laughing
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PostPosted: Sat Dec 04, 2010 12:56 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

6Kabrio7 wrote:
bill may wrote:
Whoever answers poll no is wrong. 1967 model year was last for Ragtop. Deluxe ragtop was dropped after 1963 model year ,but Standard beetle had them as option thru 1967 model year.
vin number will not tell if hardtop or ragtop.
that's why I didn't vote Laughing


me too. the poll needs a
c. all of the above
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PostPosted: Sat Dec 04, 2010 1:06 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Ok, I don't have the answer here (hence the question) but ....

VW's built in other Nations outside of Germany, Brazil, Mexico, Australia, etc., did not always upgrade their stamping dies or assembly design updates to keep up with Germany.
A known example of this is window size increases and continued Ball Joint front end production as well as swing axles.

This being the fact, did they continue manufacturing fabric sunroofs after Germany's cut off dates or did they never produce one at all??

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PostPosted: Sun Dec 05, 2010 2:48 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

djkeev wrote:
Ok, I don't have the answer here (hence the question) Did they continue manufacturing fabric sunroofs after Germany's cut off dates or did they never produce one at all??

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Well, the ones produced in Mexico did. The owner of the local vintage VW repair and restoration shop around the corner from me has a red '96 standard ragtop with no chrome and color matched factory bumpers. Except for the colored matched bumpers, it looks like a standard mid to late 70's bug. The opening of the sunroof is actually a bit wider and longer than the '63 and older U.S. market Beetles. It stops just above the rear window. Need to get some pics of it on here. It's pretty sharp.
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PostPosted: Thu Mar 10, 2011 10:34 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

cool beans. there were more hebmullers built than these ragtops. Very Happy
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PostPosted: Mon May 23, 2011 3:35 am    Post subject: '64 Rag?? Reply with quote

In OUR market(USA)the ragtop was discontinued towards the end of '63. I've had a couple of '63s with metal sunroofs. But it's possible that it was still available in other markets. I've seen single chamber master cylinders AND a swing axle transaxle in a '73 Bug from Mexico. So I guess anythings possible in other markets.
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PostPosted: Sun Nov 27, 2011 5:52 pm    Post subject: Re: '64 Rag?? Reply with quote

Paul Ricketts wrote:
In OUR market(USA)the ragtop was discontinued towards the end of '63. I've had a couple of '63s with metal sunroofs. But it's possible that it was still available in other markets. I've seen single chamber master cylinders AND a swing axle transaxle in a '73 Bug from Mexico. So I guess anythings possible in other markets.

Swing axle after 68 were common on Canadian beetle
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PostPosted: Sun Nov 27, 2011 7:08 pm    Post subject: Re: '64 Rag?? Reply with quote

vwclap wrote:
Paul Ricketts wrote:
In OUR market(USA)the ragtop was discontinued towards the end of '63. I've had a couple of '63s with metal sunroofs. But it's possible that it was still available in other markets. I've seen single chamber master cylinders AND a swing axle transaxle in a '73 Bug from Mexico. So I guess anythings possible in other markets.

Swing axle after 68 were common on Canadian beetle

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