What are the features of an Early 67 compared to later 67?

[ricky.santillan]

Encountered a bug I am interested in that according to its numbers is a 67 (117 vin code) with what appears is a matching 1500. According to the Samba dating it is dated as an Aug 66 made bug. Question is shouldn't they have non-upright headlights? This one does. What other tell tale signs should date it as an early 67?

Thanks.

[vwsteve]

Well I am only familiar with USA models. All of those had upright headlights in 67. I think the master cylinder changed during 67. The early dual circuit ones had the small tubes from resevoir, I think. The front seat backs had the release to fold forward moved up on the side (like later high back seats) late in the production year. There are probably other changes that I can't think of.

[ricky.santillan]

[VOLKSWAGNUT]

Try here, http://www.thesamba.com/vw/forum/viewtopic.php?t=187814 Plenty of reading on the cherished 67's.
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[bill may]

usa had upright 68 style headlights. you have a non usa 67. yours probably is still 6 volt. 1200 and 1300 engines in standard beetle while 1500 non usa deluxe would have disc brakes on front and 4 lug wheels.
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[joemac]

As 1967 was a year of many changes, there were a number of oddball cars built that year.
I've seen/owned cars that were a combination of leftover parts from '66 as well as the aforementioned disk brakes and 4 lug wheels.

A friend of my sister had a '67 "European" Bug that had disks, locking steering, '66 style headlights, yet a '67 decklid and apron. It was originally a six-Volt car. but the regulator was mounted under the rear seat, as was the practice with the twelve-Volt cars. The front floor never had the accelerator pedal mounted there: it had the later style mounted to the cast aluminum base.
The car had the original 1500 engine, but with the unusual '66 Ghia flywheel/starter.
The bell housing was the correct size for a twelve Volt flywheel. (We converted to 12V.) The trans never had the Z-bar, unusual for a '67.
The car also had rare factory-installed dual horns, with the relay, as used in Ghias.
The decklid had the VW 1500 insignia.

Late production USA-bound cars had different bumper tubes.
The front was slightly bowed out and the rears were slanted from the bumper guard to the middle. After all stock of the earlier types were used up, this was the only replacement bumper you could buy from VW.
This is why you sometimes see these newer style bumpers on earlier cars: they had been replaced with authentic German VW-supplied bumpers.

The front seat release changed sometime in the middle of the year. I've seen as many with the '65-67 style as the later types.

[signtrash]

I just posted some pix of my 67 euro 1500 the other day, would be glad to answer ?'s about what it does/doesn't have.I also would appreciate any input.It's in the gallery under 67 euro 1500.

[bill may]

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[ricky.santillan]

Okay maybe be better to ask. What are the things that make the 67 unique and was it true all through the 67 or VIN 117 range?

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