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McLela Samba Member
Joined: February 05, 2005 Posts: 48 Location: Fernandina Beach, Florida
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Posted: Sat Jun 17, 2023 4:38 pm Post subject: Re: 1933 Carrington Kit cars ? LN-33 |
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Hi, I'm looking for a assembly manual for the Carrington LN-33 kit car? The cars were built by David & Nancy Gray in Florida in the early 1980's. Any help appreciated, Thanks
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tac422 Samba Member
Joined: September 22, 2010 Posts: 18 Location: Virginia
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Posted: Mon Sep 26, 2022 5:55 am Post subject: Re: 1933 Carrington Kit cars ? LN-33 |
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Mike Hillbery wrote: |
Hi, Does anyone have an assembly manual for a Carrington LN-33 kit car? any help appreciated, Thanks Mike |
Ken Neithken of Neithken Associates (540) 337-1777 may have something. He was the last producer of the kits.
If you have specific questions, I might be able to help as I've owned one. |
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DesignBuild Samba Member
Joined: September 29, 2016 Posts: 314 Location: TEXAS
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Ravinsomniac wrote: |
Smyrnaguy,
Florida Laws are a lot more relaxed down here than many other States. Headlight requirements are, "no lower than 12" on center, and no closer than 24" on center."
My projection headlights are the same as standard production cars, but they are recessed, which is legal, I checked first. The lower driving lamps just squeaked by at the minimum height requirements. Florida does not have a yearly Vehicle State Inspection, like other States do. Your car is inspected by a Mechanic when you buy it and that's it. However, a cop will pull you over, if you are riding on bald tires, or if you have a light out, but that's about it. A few years back, they started that"Click it or Ticket" Law, so seat belts are required.
Twenty five years ago, I built a home made, street legal, VW rail buggy. It had no body and looked just like a big go-cart. I made it out of regular steel water pipe with a 1/8" thick steel plate floor. A windshield was not required, but you had to wear glasses. Headlights and taillights were required, but turn signals were not. You could use hand signals for turning. My horn was an antique style, rubber squeeze ball type, which was legal. I'm sure if I drove it 10 feet across the Florida border, I would have been busted for something. |
Actually, the headlight height regulation is a NHTSA requirement for manufactures. In addition there are other NHTSA stipulations on height of tail lights as well as marker lights so oncoming traffic will recognize your vehicle as an automobile. So, your vehicle body was never intended for the street. If it was it would have had the headlight pods at least 22 inches above the road surface. You would have much better visibility if the headlights were at least 22 inches above the road surface. You could probably use the same lights but they would need to be higher than they are now. In addition, do not ever drive the car on Federal land or you could be stopped and have the car confiscated. |
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DesignBuild Samba Member
Joined: September 29, 2016 Posts: 314 Location: TEXAS
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Posted: Sun Sep 25, 2022 1:25 pm Post subject: |
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Very cool... BTW, I think the first VW kit cars were the LaDawri Quest Q.T., Thor and Alken. [/quote]
Never heard of those. What body style did they replicate ?
There were literally hundreds of body styles made in the 60's, 70's and 80's. Most never caught on, but today, when you see a nice one at a car show, there's usually a crowd around it, asking what it is.
And the funny thing,
there's usually a high dollar Corvette or Mustang sitting nearby and the owner of that car is really pissed off because nobody asks about his car.
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It is interesting that you ask what these vehicles replicated. They didn't replicate anything that came before. They may have been influenced but very few looked like a replica of anything. Go to Undiscovered Classics for more examples. A number of bodies could have been made to fit the full size VW chassis. The ALKEN was made to fit the full size chassis and it was very unique looking. The ALKEN was produced in 1958 and not many were made. Unlike many early kit cars the ALKEN was truly a complete body with internal bulkheads and complete weathertight wheel wells. It was factory assembled from all of the individual moldings to make a complete and rigid body. With a bit of ingenuity it could have been made to mount the VW drive train and not use the VW chassis at all. You can see a brochure at Undiscovered Classics. Many of the other fiberglass bodies that were produced that were designed for a 95.5 inch wheelbase could have been used as a VW replacement body. The earliest fiberglass "kit car" was made in 1952. See the Porsche patent for a unitized synthetic body for a Porsche sports car.
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Mike Hillbery Samba Member
Joined: September 04, 2003 Posts: 2
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Posted: Fri Sep 23, 2022 4:32 pm Post subject: Re: 1933 Carrington Kit cars ? LN-33 |
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Hi, Does anyone have an assembly manual for a Carrington LN-33 kit car? any help appreciated, Thanks Mike _________________ Thanks,Mike |
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msisaac Samba Member
Joined: September 30, 2012 Posts: 1
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Posted: Sun Sep 30, 2012 7:35 pm Post subject: |
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I hate to revive a dead post, but I just listed one of these kits on eBay. My wife bought it back in 2007. When I was searching for information on this kit to put into the listing, I came across this thread and realized that the very first picture in the first post is the car my wife bought! That picture was actually used in the eBay listing back in 2007! Craziness. Anyway, if anyone here is interested, the auction number is 300787273845. I hope posting that isn't against the site rules. I just thought that was such a funky coincidence that the first picture I come across when searching for information is the same picture used to sell the car to my wife in the first place, and I had to post something. |
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tac422 Samba Member
Joined: September 22, 2010 Posts: 18 Location: Virginia
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mekeys Samba Member
Joined: July 27, 2010 Posts: 124 Location: SWLA
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BL3Manx wrote: |
Mel, I was hoping no one else would find that site until I found a Glasspar G2. |
Sorry about that.Anyway there are hardly any for sale on that site.Even E-Bay doesn't seem to have many for sale either.I have been checking for about 14 years thats when I retired.However I already have a project I should be working on (Mels GT).
As of 8/13/11 there is one Old fiberglass body on E-Bay called a La Dawri,it's on an MG chassis..item # 130559762805.as the 14th 10:38 am it's only got 4 hours to go..
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kitcarguy Samba Member
Joined: May 06, 2007 Posts: 431 Location: North Carolina
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Posted: Wed Aug 10, 2011 8:33 am Post subject: |
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tac422 wrote: |
Kitcarguy ...
Which car had a writeup ? Carrington ? |
Yes there was a writeup on the Carrington |
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BL3Manx Samba Member
Joined: August 29, 2006 Posts: 6767 Location: Northern California
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Posted: Fri Aug 05, 2011 11:08 am Post subject: |
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Mel, I was hoping no one else would find that site until I found a Glasspar G2. |
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mekeys Samba Member
Joined: July 27, 2010 Posts: 124 Location: SWLA
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Posted: Fri Aug 05, 2011 10:12 am Post subject: Early Kit Cars |
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To read all about kit cars from the early days go to.
www.forgottenfiberglass.com
there is over 250 stories of the early days of kit cars.. go to article archive..
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tac422 Samba Member
Joined: September 22, 2010 Posts: 18 Location: Virginia
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tac422 Samba Member
Joined: September 22, 2010 Posts: 18 Location: Virginia
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Posted: Wed Jun 29, 2011 11:15 am Post subject: |
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Kitcarguy ...
Which car had a writeup ? Carrington ? |
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kitcarguy Samba Member
Joined: May 06, 2007 Posts: 431 Location: North Carolina
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Posted: Thu Jun 23, 2011 7:02 am Post subject: |
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Just in Case anyone was interested there was a write up in September 1985 Issue of Petersons Kit Car.
Highlights of the article
- The car was built by a Clearwater Company called Professional Prototypes
- Kit included a subframe that stretched the car to 113 inches.
- All Hand Laid fiberglass |
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kustoms Samba Member
Joined: November 20, 2003 Posts: 1313
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Posted: Tue Jun 07, 2011 7:37 am Post subject: |
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Why get one of those when you can get one of these. LOL.
_________________ Google this.
"Bread and Circuses"
And wondering what the heck happen to my Samba post count?!?
Tom Thompson
Tijuana Kustoms Inc. (TM)
1-516-338-8746
www.tjkustoms.com |
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tac422 Samba Member
Joined: September 22, 2010 Posts: 18 Location: Virginia
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Posted: Tue Jun 07, 2011 6:37 am Post subject: |
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found another one ...
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Ravinsomniac Samba Member
Joined: June 20, 2009 Posts: 300 Location: Palm Beach Gardens
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Posted: Fri Dec 31, 2010 2:59 am Post subject: |
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Smyrnaguy,
Florida Laws are a lot more relaxed down here than many other States. Headlight requirements are, "no lower than 12" on center, and no closer than 24" on center."
My projection headlights are the same as standard production cars, but they are recessed, which is legal, I checked first. The lower driving lamps just squeaked by at the minimum height requirements. Florida does not have a yearly Vehicle State Inspection, like other States do. Your car is inspected by a Mechanic when you buy it and that's it. However, a cop will pull you over, if you are riding on bald tires, or if you have a light out, but that's about it. A few years back, they started that"Click it or Ticket" Law, so seat belts are required.
Twenty five years ago, I built a home made, street legal, VW rail buggy. It had no body and looked just like a big go-cart. I made it out of regular steel water pipe with a 1/8" thick steel plate floor. A windshield was not required, but you had to wear glasses. Headlights and taillights were required, but turn signals were not. You could use hand signals for turning. My horn was an antique style, rubber squeeze ball type, which was legal. I'm sure if I drove it 10 feet across the Florida border, I would have been busted for something. |
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Smyrnaguy Samba Member
Joined: October 08, 2008 Posts: 115 Location: Smyrna, NC
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Posted: Thu Dec 30, 2010 7:08 pm Post subject: |
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Ravinsomniac your car looks killer. I have only 1 small interjection and keep in mind that I really like the whole look. Your headlights are illegal. You can check this site and go down to page 311.http://edocket.access.gpo.gov/cfr_2004/octqtr/49cfr571.108.htm
It appears that most of the GT kits have always been illegal. The minimum headlight height is 22" at center and the max is 54". Now you are probably going to be ok forever but there's always a chance you could run across an inspector or trooper with knowledge and a bee in their bonnet. I moved the headlights 4" further up on my Bradley just to make them legal. |
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Ravinsomniac Samba Member
Joined: June 20, 2009 Posts: 300 Location: Palm Beach Gardens
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Ravinsomniac Samba Member
Joined: June 20, 2009 Posts: 300 Location: Palm Beach Gardens
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I liked the color of my friends Chevy truck, so I had him paint it the same color. His truck has 15 coats of red, mine only has 3. Price was a factor, and considering he OWNS the Body Shop, he can afford as many coats as he wants !
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