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vanagonagon Samba Member
Joined: January 27, 2010 Posts: 70 Location: berkeley, ca
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Posted: Wed Dec 29, 2010 6:58 pm Post subject: Center console concept...cup holders |
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My '83 GL doesn't have much in the way of storage so i drew up this quick center console idea that would incorporate a couple cup holders and a lowered top tray in the front so shit won't go flyin around corners. The back can double as a mini seat for the occasional van drinking session (wish I had swivel seats).
I imagine I'll make it out of some 1/2" plywood or maybe MDF. Any input appreciated... |
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woggs1 Samba Member
Joined: February 22, 2007 Posts: 531 Location: South Pacifica California
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Posted: Wed Dec 29, 2010 7:02 pm Post subject: |
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That is the perfect place for additional storage and cup holders. Right now I use a plastic box with a cheap console thing on top for cup holders. If it was for sale I would buy one. Maybe Rocky Mountain Westy can make and sell something like this. If your like me (chronic overpacker) you can never have too much storage. _________________ 4 speed 88 Westy |
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Lotek Samba Member
Joined: May 11, 2008 Posts: 126 Location: Los Angeles
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Posted: Wed Dec 29, 2010 7:04 pm Post subject: |
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I just made one kinda like that, but it houses two down-firing 10" subwoofers. I have an aftermarket console mounted on top for drinks and loose crap. If i wasn't so ineducable I'd post a photo. |
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vanagonagon Samba Member
Joined: January 27, 2010 Posts: 70 Location: berkeley, ca
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Posted: Wed Dec 29, 2010 7:08 pm Post subject: |
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woggs1 wrote: |
That is the perfect place for additional storage and cup holders. Right now I use a plastic box with a cheap console thing on top for cup holders. If it was for sale I would buy one. Maybe Rocky Mountain Westy can make and sell something like this. If your like me (chronic overpacker) you can never have too much storage. |
After spilling like 2 coffees in the van, it's time for cupholders.
I plan on building it tomorrow, I'll post pictures of the process. If it turns out to be really easy I might be able to bust out a few copies. Not sure what the shipping would be like, it would probably make sense to ship flatpacked.
Hopefully it won't restrict movement from the front to the back of the van, but I think it should be sturdy enough to stand on while jumping to the back. |
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vanagonagon Samba Member
Joined: January 27, 2010 Posts: 70 Location: berkeley, ca
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Posted: Wed Dec 29, 2010 7:09 pm Post subject: |
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Lotek wrote: |
I just made one kinda like that, but it houses two down-firing 10" subwoofers. I have an aftermarket console mounted on top for drinks and loose crap. If i wasn't so ineducable I'd post a photo. |
just post it up on imageshack, quick easy and free http://imageshack.us/ |
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DWC Samba Member
Joined: October 02, 2007 Posts: 223 Location: San Jose CA
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Posted: Wed Dec 29, 2010 7:30 pm Post subject: |
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vanagonagon,
Looks like a great plan.
I opted for a travel cooler freezer / warmer (Thermoelectric Cooler)
It's worked great as a cup holder and storage bin (CD's etc.) & when it's needed it will keep extra drinks cold or food warm.
You can also use it as a "mini seat for the occasional van drinking session" as long as it's not for someone real heavy.
Plus it's portable so you can easily move it out of the way if you need to use the space between your seats to get to and from the back of your van.
Best of all, I found mine at Target on sale for just under $14.00 a few years ago.
Looks like this one: http://www.gadgetgrid.com/wp-content/uploads/2008/09/black_n_decker_cooler_warmer.jpg _________________ 83.5 Westy Waterboxer
71 Squareback
81 Westy
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r39o Samba Polizei
Joined: May 18, 2005 Posts: 9800 Location: San Diego
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Posted: Wed Dec 29, 2010 8:23 pm Post subject: |
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One of the coolest things is the walk through feature. Why clutter up a perfectly good walkway? Yes, I "AM" Curmudgeon Man. _________________ "Use the SEARCH, Luke" But first visit the Vanagon FAQ!
1990 Multivan EJ 22, Rancho trans 0.82 4th, Small Car front AC, CLKs w/ 215/65-16, homemade big brakes 303mm, Konis, Recaros, etc....
Click to see my ads for Cup holders, Subaru clutch fix and CLK wheels (no wheels currently) |
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vanagonagon Samba Member
Joined: January 27, 2010 Posts: 70 Location: berkeley, ca
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Posted: Wed Dec 29, 2010 9:07 pm Post subject: |
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r39o wrote: |
One of the coolest things is the walk through feature. Why clutter up a perfectly good walkway? Yes, I "AM" Curmudgeon Man. |
well it will be removable
plus it's only 8 or so inches tall, and I'm 6'3" all legs, shouldn't be a problem |
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j_dirge Samba Member
Joined: August 08, 2007 Posts: 4641 Location: Twain Harte, CA
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Posted: Wed Dec 29, 2010 9:37 pm Post subject: |
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vanagonagon wrote: |
r39o wrote: |
One of the coolest things is the walk through feature. Why clutter up a perfectly good walkway? Yes, I "AM" Curmudgeon Man. |
well it will be removable
plus it's only 8 or so inches tall, and I'm 6'3" all legs, shouldn't be a problem |
trust me.. its a pain in the ass.
6-3 here, too. And I like having the center console while driving...
Bought a $100 jobber thru JC Whitney... (garbage by the way, I think it was assembled by lemurs on acid)
With kids, though, I am often moving to the back thru the walk-thru.
Stepping over it.. or doing without. hmm...
I can't decide...
So I curse under my breath every time I have to contort rubberman-like to get over it.
I also don't like having a potential projectile in the van... (note to self: figure out a way to secure it) _________________ -89 GL Westy, SVX.. finally.
-57 pan f/g buggy with a 67 pancake Type 3 "S"
"Jimi Hendrix owned one. Richard Nixon did not"
-Grand Tour, Season 1, episodes 4 and 5
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those are straight line runs with light weight race cars for only 1/4mile at a time..
not pushing a loaded brick up a mountain pass with a family of 4+ inside expecting to have an event free vacation..
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r39o Samba Polizei
Joined: May 18, 2005 Posts: 9800 Location: San Diego
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Posted: Wed Dec 29, 2010 9:43 pm Post subject: |
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j_dirge wrote: |
With kids, though, I am often moving to the back thru the walk-thru.
Stepping over it.. or doing without. hmm...
I can't decide...
So I curse under my breath every time I have to contort rubberman-like to get over it.
I also don't like having a potential projectile in the van... (note to self: figure out a way to secure it) |
We have kids.
Our Routan has a factory fixed console (can be removed) and it is a major pain.
The Westys do not have anything much sticking in the walkway and we can move around much better.
(I almost hate the damn Chrysler it is soul less and so small inside compared to the Vanagons....arrgh...just a few more months and the Multivan will by my new driver....heee heeee....) _________________ "Use the SEARCH, Luke" But first visit the Vanagon FAQ!
1990 Multivan EJ 22, Rancho trans 0.82 4th, Small Car front AC, CLKs w/ 215/65-16, homemade big brakes 303mm, Konis, Recaros, etc....
Click to see my ads for Cup holders, Subaru clutch fix and CLK wheels (no wheels currently) |
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stevey88 Samba Member
Joined: January 16, 2008 Posts: 1317 Location: Fremont, SF Bay Area
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Posted: Wed Dec 29, 2010 10:05 pm Post subject: |
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r39o wrote: |
One of the coolest things is the walk through feature. Why clutter up a perfectly good walkway? Yes, I "AM" Curmudgeon Man. |
I also like the walk-through feature. In my hard top, I bought a cheap POS console and it is in the way but I the cup holder at the right place- I don't have to lean forward to get to the cup. In my Westy, I am going to fit the fold down table from a 2010 Toyota Sienna. People are removing them to fit a full center console. I bought mine on ebay for $10 with a $20 shipping and it looks brand new. I have not fitted it yet but the problem is once fitted, the passenger swivel seat will not be able to sway as it is in the way. BTW, I have already removed the driver swivel and is fitting a normal Vanagon seat so it is lower and the support for the leg is longer. I may remove the swivel for the passenger seat also as there are only the two of us and We never have to turn the seat. It looks like this one
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/2004-2010-Toyota-Si...2eb24c0647
but mine is from a 2010. _________________ Steve
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vanagonagon Samba Member
Joined: January 27, 2010 Posts: 70 Location: berkeley, ca
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Posted: Wed Dec 29, 2010 10:39 pm Post subject: |
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stevey88 wrote: |
r39o wrote: |
One of the coolest things is the walk through feature. Why clutter up a perfectly good walkway? Yes, I "AM" Curmudgeon Man. |
I also like the walk-through feature. In my hard top, I bought a cheap POS console and it is in the way but I the cup holder at the right place- I don't have to lean forward to get to the cup. In my Westy, I am going to fit the fold down table from a 2010 Toyota Sienna. People are removing them to fit a full center console. I bought mine on ebay for $10 with a $20 shipping and it looks brand new. I have not fitted it yet but the problem is once fitted, the passenger swivel seat will not be able to sway as it is in the way. BTW, I have already removed the driver swivel and is fitting a normal Vanagon seat so it is lower and the support for the leg is longer. I may remove the swivel for the passenger seat also as there are only the two of us and We never have to turn the seat. It looks like this one
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/2004-2010-Toyota-Si...2eb24c0647
but mine is from a 2010. |
If you get rid of your swivel I'll totally buy it.
j_dirge - yea the projectile issue is legit. I suppose I could secure it to the deck with some kind of removable latch. |
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Timwhy Samba Member
Joined: January 01, 2009 Posts: 4002 Location: Maine
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Posted: Thu Dec 30, 2010 5:11 am Post subject: |
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My vans' PO had built a center box for the walk way. He brought it to me a year
after I purchased my van. I have used it tough, it seems too big for what I'd like.
He constructed it out of plywood and he did a very nice job with the jointry.
He even routed a groove into the side of so the box can stay in place while the
passenger seat is being swiveled. I thought about covering it with that cheepo
carpeting for speakers and make it blend in better, but then it's the whole can't climb
over it to get to the back seat. I don't want my vans' interior to be any more of an
obstacle course than it already gets _________________ '15 Audi A3 Quattro
'09 VW Tiguan (dead)
'87 VW Westy
'91 Tin Top
'90 Cabby
What the Westy wants the Westy GETS
http://www.thesamba.com/vw/forum/album_search.php?search_author=Timwhy&show_results=summary
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teej Samba Member
Joined: November 26, 2010 Posts: 897 Location: Seattle
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Posted: Thu Dec 30, 2010 7:37 am Post subject: |
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I built one last Spring:
I looked at several store-bought consoles first for ideas. One complaint many had is that not all potential space was utilized, particularly under the cup holders.
So I designed a front horizontal access bin, right behind the shift lever, under the cup holders, for seldom used stuff.
In the rear, accessible from the main cabin area, are two little cubbys for lighters, keys, headlamps, lip balm, etc.
All those cubbies have a curbed shelf so stuff can't go sliding off.
We had a number of design criteria, it had to accomodate:
coffee and other beverages in a variety of containers
a six pack
tissue box
thermos
small waste bin
have some "secret" storage
easily portable
I suggest making it narrow enough to:
1.easily reach seatbelts (both sides!) and e-brake, and aisle power socket.
2.swivel the seat without rubbing
I like the idea of an open aisle but:
1. where to put all that little stuff, and my coffee
2. we have a dog who wants to be underfoot, the console keeps him in back.
3. Ours is easily moveable.
Good points on potential projectile. While I like that ours is easily moved from the aisle, I will consider rigging some sort of attachment/quick release. We already have the GW eyebolt seat belt bolts, maybe I will make use of them with a strap.
I added about a 7/8" shim on bottom towards the back of the console to make up for the downsloping aisle floor. It doesn't slide around on the rubber aisle mat. I have also since added "drawer liner" type material to dampen vibration and rattling of contents.
Overall we find it very useful for keeping organized on road trips and in camp. In the interest of research maybe we should "forget" it on a trip to test out the open aisle experience.[/img] |
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Cold Steel Samba Member
Joined: March 11, 2010 Posts: 587
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Posted: Thu Dec 30, 2010 9:33 am Post subject: Re: Center console concept... |
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vanagonagon wrote: |
My '83 GL doesn't have much in the way of storage so i drew up this quick center console idea that would incorporate a couple cup holders and a lowered top tray in the front so shit won't go flyin around corners. The back can double as a mini seat for the occasional van drinking session (wish I had swivel seats).
I imagine I'll make it out of some 1/2" plywood or maybe MDF. Any input appreciated... |
The main problem with isle storage is you cant walk there anymore. Its so nice to slide to the side and move to the rear. Lets face it the only problem we are all trying to solve is where to put the drink holder.
I think the real solution is on the dash.
My 2 cents...
Oh by the way, I still have not come up with my own solution so your doing better than me _________________ 91 Syncro
I am a samba thread just waiting to happen!
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DAIZEE Samba Member
Joined: January 26, 2010 Posts: 7552 Location: Greater Toronto Area Ontario West Side
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Posted: Thu Dec 30, 2010 9:42 am Post subject: |
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When I'm driving it is imperative that I have a place for my water, for kleenex and a thousand other things as I don't have a co pilot and I've tried the hangers, too far and too low to reach. I like one that can be moved, only my passenger seat swivels.. I'm watching all your ideas.
Presently using a cooler that fits snugly (have long seat belt holder) with the lid reversed that has bottle holders. It's got a lot of problems and bought an inexpensive console but its crap!!! So I'm following all leads about removeable consoles. _________________ '09 2.5L Jetta 5 cylinder, 5 spd, super turbo, see thread in H2O Cooled Jetta, etc...
83.5 Vanagon L Riviera Model with 98 1.9L TD AAZ 4 speed Daily Driver 3 out of 4 seasons (sold)
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fairweather Samba Member
Joined: August 26, 2007 Posts: 663 Location: Aspen, CO
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Posted: Thu Dec 30, 2010 10:14 am Post subject: |
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I've built a few of these, always tweaking it to make it better. I angled the bottom to match the floor and stopped it just forward of the seat belt bolt to preserve the walk thru ability. I can step over it just fine and the seat still swivels.
This is my current setup with the dash mounted unit, the black disappears which I like. The material is 12mm baltic birch with a lacquer finish, dovetailed at the corners with a PC Omnijig. Bamboo would be a nice choice because of looks and it dovetails nicely but it is 200$ a sheet vs 30$ for BB.
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pioneer1 Samba Member
Joined: February 11, 2008 Posts: 2069 Location: Ontario Canada
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Posted: Thu Dec 30, 2010 10:43 am Post subject: storage |
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Good ideas everyone. I used a Styrofoam packing box that surrounded a ceiling fan-lots of little cut outs for pens,cups,maps and then threw it out after the trip. The openings are also a great source of survival food -it's amazing how many donut and cookie crumbs fall in there. _________________ "Always waiting for tomorrow ruined everything"
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rockfish Samba Member
Joined: February 13, 2007 Posts: 740 Location: Palo Alto, Calif.
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Posted: Thu Dec 30, 2010 11:01 am Post subject: |
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I have used this low profile console for a few years - works for us. Cup holders and a small tray for miscellaneous stuff. Still allows easy movement to the back of the Westy. And it's easy to move out of the way when we're at a campsite and want the space for other uses.
I have the cup holders facing the other direction than what you see in the photo above - i.e., facing towards the front. It has "teeth" on the bottom of the unit - so it never moves when driving...
We have cup holders in the doors as well (covers old power window switch slots), but I'm uncomfortable with a hot cup of coffee so close to the steering wheel. _________________ 89 Westy
GW 2.5 5-speed trans
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vanagonagon Samba Member
Joined: January 27, 2010 Posts: 70 Location: berkeley, ca
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Posted: Thu Dec 30, 2010 2:36 pm Post subject: |
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fairweather wrote: |
I've built a few of these, always tweaking it to make it better. I angled the bottom to match the floor and stopped it just forward of the seat belt bolt to preserve the walk thru ability. I can step over it just fine and the seat still swivels.
This is my current setup with the dash mounted unit, the black disappears which I like. The material is 12mm baltic birch with a lacquer finish, dovetailed at the corners with a PC Omnijig. Bamboo would be a nice choice because of looks and it dovetails nicely but it is 200$ a sheet vs 30$ for BB.
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sweet setup! How'd you do the jointery on the console?
do you have a detail shot of the dash cupholder?
I like the compartments you guys have goin on. Makes more sense than one big space. |
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