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uberautowerks Samba Member
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Posted: Mon Jan 03, 2011 10:51 pm Post subject: Beetle to Thing/181 seat interchange years and models |
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Rumor control time (perhaps even a sticky)
Beetle to Thing/181/Safari/Trecker seat interchange list.....
1971 and 1972 Beetle/Super Beetle are the ONLY stock VW seats which are a "Bolt in" interchange.
Period.
Thanks,
Eric _________________ --- The major difference between a thing that might go wrong and a thing that cannot possibly go wrong is that when a thing that cannot possibly go wrong goes wrong it usually turns out to be impossible to get at and repair.
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'74 Thing (White)
'71 Single cab (White too)
'70 Weekender (White three)
'05 Evolution VIII (White also!!!)
'68 F-250 (White over black) |
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Chas223 Samba Member
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Posted: Sun Jul 31, 2011 1:44 pm Post subject: |
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I AGREE!! |
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Bashr52 Samba Member
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Posted: Thu Jan 12, 2012 10:34 am Post subject: |
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What about seat tracks? Is it the same 2 year beetle deal on them too? |
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uberautowerks Samba Member
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Posted: Thu Jan 12, 2012 11:40 am Post subject: |
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Thing/181 seat tracks are Thing/181 only due to the different shape of the floor. _________________ --- The major difference between a thing that might go wrong and a thing that cannot possibly go wrong is that when a thing that cannot possibly go wrong goes wrong it usually turns out to be impossible to get at and repair.
- Douglas Adams -
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'74 Thing (White)
'71 Single cab (White too)
'70 Weekender (White three)
'05 Evolution VIII (White also!!!)
'68 F-250 (White over black) |
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Bashr52 Samba Member
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Posted: Thu Jan 19, 2012 8:29 am Post subject: |
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Great, I need a set and was hoping to get away with some beetle tracks. I'm running Ghia pans on mine...... |
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Posted: Thu May 17, 2012 11:00 am Post subject: |
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can some one tell me was beetle economy and thing steering same?
thanks
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bravo122 Samba Member
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Posted: Thu May 17, 2012 11:00 am Post subject: |
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can some one tell me was beetle economy and thing steering same?
thanks |
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uberautowerks Samba Member
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Posted: Thu May 17, 2012 11:08 am Post subject: |
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bravo122 wrote: |
can some one tell me was beetle economy and thing steering same?
thanks |
Hmmm
Not really a seat interchange question.
However... I'll bite...
When you say "Steering" do you refer to a single part or to the entire steering system??
Answer...
Steering box = same
Steering box coupler = same
Steering damper = same
Tie rod ends (ALL) = same
Tie rod (left) = same
Tie rod (right) = DIFFERENT
Ball joints (ALL) = DIFFERENT
Steering wheel = same (kind of, I've been told the textured wheel was Thing only)
Anything else?? _________________ --- The major difference between a thing that might go wrong and a thing that cannot possibly go wrong is that when a thing that cannot possibly go wrong goes wrong it usually turns out to be impossible to get at and repair.
- Douglas Adams -
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'74 Thing (White)
'71 Single cab (White too)
'70 Weekender (White three)
'05 Evolution VIII (White also!!!)
'68 F-250 (White over black) |
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bravo122 Samba Member
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Posted: Sat May 19, 2012 7:42 pm Post subject: |
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uberautowerks wrote: |
bravo122 wrote: |
can some one tell me was beetle economy and thing steering same?
thanks |
Hmmm
Not really a seat interchange question.
However... I'll bite...
When you say "Steering" do you refer to a single part or to the entire steering system??
Answer...
Steering box = same
Steering box coupler = same
Steering damper = same
Tie rod ends (ALL) = same
Tie rod (left) = same
Tie rod (right) = DIFFERENT
Ball joints (ALL) = DIFFERENT
Steering wheel = same (kind of, I've been told the textured wheel was Thing only)
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thanks that really helped alot
another question
there are two types of steering wheel i saw on things of the members
one was the one that cae in 1302 beetle
http://www.google.com.pk/imgres?[url]um=1&hl=e...i:66[/url]
and the other was the econmy beetle one
http://www.google.com.pk/imgres?um=1&hl=en&...2,s:0,i:72
which one shall i buy for my 71 thing? |
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uberautowerks Samba Member
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Posted: Sat May 19, 2012 11:29 pm Post subject: |
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I believe the earlier wheel would be correct. _________________ --- The major difference between a thing that might go wrong and a thing that cannot possibly go wrong is that when a thing that cannot possibly go wrong goes wrong it usually turns out to be impossible to get at and repair.
- Douglas Adams -
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'74 Thing (White)
'71 Single cab (White too)
'70 Weekender (White three)
'05 Evolution VIII (White also!!!)
'68 F-250 (White over black) |
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Posted: Mon May 21, 2012 6:16 am Post subject: |
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1302 one? |
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Posted: Mon May 21, 2012 8:21 am Post subject: |
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http://www.google.com.pk/imgres?um=1&hl=en&...2,s:0,i:72 _________________ --- The major difference between a thing that might go wrong and a thing that cannot possibly go wrong is that when a thing that cannot possibly go wrong goes wrong it usually turns out to be impossible to get at and repair.
- Douglas Adams -
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'74 Thing (White)
'71 Single cab (White too)
'70 Weekender (White three)
'05 Evolution VIII (White also!!!)
'68 F-250 (White over black) |
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Posted: Wed May 23, 2012 2:42 am Post subject: |
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I have a question. The drivers seat back on my 73 thing is wasted,rusted beyond and is junk,both frame and backrest springs. The seat bottom is in good shape. What seat low seat back from a beetle will bolt to the seat bottom of the thing seat bottom and allow you to use thing seat covers?? |
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Posted: Mon Aug 26, 2013 6:48 am Post subject: |
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I have noticed that the thread talks about years of interchangeability of the bug/trekker seats what it doesn't talk about is how to correctly ID the 71 Bug / 72 SB seats to help source these say from a lot of 50 seats a seller has in its backyard.
I need this identification information in order to buy the correct seats to put on my 181. There is no point in ending up buying a pair of seats that are sold as 71 by the seller and not fitting in the end.
Pictures/other identification information help would be highly appreciated. Thanks _________________ 1965 1200cc SP Type114 American Spec. German Sedan Deluxe a.k.a. "Patina"
1969 1600cc SP Type224 European Spec. Bay Window Walkthrough Deluxe a.k.a. "Missionare"
1979 1600cc DP Type182 European Spec. Mexican Safari a.k.a. "Elk"
1976 ------ --- Westfalia Essen Trailer (May 10, 1976) a.k.a. "W.E.T" |
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Posted: Mon Aug 26, 2013 4:36 pm Post subject: |
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If I have had the 181 seats why would I be looking to identify a pair of 71 bug seats?
I have searched the Late Bug forum but with not much luck, all they say is they had a round knob at the seat back and thats it. _________________ 1965 1200cc SP Type114 American Spec. German Sedan Deluxe a.k.a. "Patina"
1969 1600cc SP Type224 European Spec. Bay Window Walkthrough Deluxe a.k.a. "Missionare"
1979 1600cc DP Type182 European Spec. Mexican Safari a.k.a. "Elk"
1976 ------ --- Westfalia Essen Trailer (May 10, 1976) a.k.a. "W.E.T" |
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Posted: Tue Aug 27, 2013 9:00 am Post subject: |
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well, most people want the beetle seats because they are highbacks, as opposed to thing seat lowbacks. many consider it an upgrade. I sold my thign lowbacks to affrod beetle highbacks. Jeesh, just tryign to help.
Basically, beetle lowbacks are too old, wont work. the 68-69 seats, IIRC , have wide headrests, while the later ones have narrower headrests..look at the thread i linked, it shows an older one.
73 and up seats will have a three point mount, as opposed to the rails.
68-70 rails have a different profile, more like an "L" than a "T"..
if you have access to a mid america motorworks catalog, i think you can see sketches of the seat covers and the mounting points
or look here:
http://air-cooled-vw-parts-search.mamotorworkstv.com/nav/cat2/seat-covers/cat1/interior/0
this gives you a general idea of seat profiles
71-72: http://www.mamotorworkstv.com/vw/product/319037/
65-67: http://www.mamotorworkstv.com/vw/product/313719/
74-up http://www.mamotorworkstv.com/vw/product/313727/
73: http://www.mamotorworkstv.com/vw/product/319047/
68-69: http://www.mamotorworkstv.com/vw/product/319036/
i think the 1970 standard beetle has the same shape as the 71-72, but itll have the L profile tracks .
At least this should narrow down the field. _________________ Tilda the Mustard Tigress 1973 Squareback (o'''^'''o)
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Posted: Mon Mar 10, 2014 3:41 pm Post subject: Will 2000 GTI Seats Fit 1973 Thing |
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I bought a 1973 Thing last year with no rear seats and some not so great looking front seats. My Thing does not appear to have any seat tracks currently welded to pan. It looks like the front seats are bolted to giant block of wood which I'm guessing is bolted to the floor.
I am looking for replacement/upgrades that will not break the bank. I found a complete set of leather seats from a 2000 VW GTI for sale near me and would like to know if they will fit. And how much work it will take to get them all mounted safely. |
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