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Nevada51 Samba Member
Joined: September 22, 2005 Posts: 138 Location: Melbourne, Australia
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Posted: Mon Sep 16, 2013 4:56 am Post subject: Whitewalls - Firestones or US Royals? |
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I'm interested in getting a set of whitewall bias ply tires for a lowlight. I've seen a lot on Firestone's and they do look great but I was hoping to get a smaller whitewall side than the Firestones. I see US Royal has a 2 1/4" WW tire. Anyone had experience with these? Has anyone got any pictures of them mounted?
Thanks in advance.
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John Moxon Samba Moderator
Joined: March 07, 2004 Posts: 13958 Location: Southampton U.K.
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NOVA Airhead Samba Member
Joined: July 20, 2005 Posts: 5221 Location: Richmond, VA
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Posted: Mon Sep 16, 2013 9:10 am Post subject: |
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Have you checked out Coker tires?
http://www.cokertire.com/ _________________ Ghia Owner Emeritus |
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(o)=!=(o) Samba Member
Joined: September 22, 2011 Posts: 31 Location: Cary, NC
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Posted: Mon Sep 16, 2013 10:38 am Post subject: White walls |
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I purchased these last year for my '71.
They were made in Indiana from old BF Goodrich molds. They have performed great so far. I ordered them from Universal Vintage Tire in Hersey PA
Van
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(o)=!=(o) Samba Member
Joined: September 22, 2011 Posts: 31 Location: Cary, NC
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Posted: Mon Sep 16, 2013 10:42 am Post subject: |
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I just realized you asked about bias tires. I would stay away from those. I almost wrecked twice coming down the mountain when I got caught in the rain. I bought radials and couldn't be more pleased.
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John Moxon Samba Moderator
Joined: March 07, 2004 Posts: 13958 Location: Southampton U.K.
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Posted: Mon Sep 16, 2013 11:20 am Post subject: |
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(o)=!=(o) wrote: |
I just realized you asked about bias tires. I would stay away from those. I almost wrecked twice coming down the mountain when I got caught in the rain. I bought radials and couldn't be more pleased.
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It does depend on where you live and what kind of driving you do. Bias ply tyres are no doubt inferior in performance to radials so that fact has to be to the forefront whilst driving in the wet.
Trouble is...bias ply tyres just look right on a Lowlight. _________________ John.
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79SuperVert Samba Member
Joined: May 31, 2002 Posts: 9758 Location: Elizabeth, NJ & La Isla Del Encanto
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Posted: Mon Sep 16, 2013 11:20 am Post subject: |
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I bought 4 Coker Classic whitewall 165/15 radial tires in April 2011 and I'm very happy with them despite the fact that once I put them on, they highlighted the fact that I needed to renew my steering linkages. Now it drives like a new car. _________________ Central Jersey VW Society
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sparkleplenty Samba Member
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Posted: Mon Sep 16, 2013 2:01 pm Post subject: |
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"Stones" for sure... _________________ '56 European Oval Ragtop-Stock
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retrowagen Samba Member
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Posted: Mon Sep 16, 2013 3:29 pm Post subject: |
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I had Firestone wide whitewalls on my late '57.
My only complaint was that the whitewall was wider than the original Continental wide whitewalls, by about 1/4".
Never drove the car in rain, so wet weather was not an issue at all _________________ David Ruby
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Nevada51 Samba Member
Joined: September 22, 2005 Posts: 138 Location: Melbourne, Australia
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Posted: Tue Sep 17, 2013 12:28 am Post subject: |
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Thanks for the responses. I am aware of the radial vs bias-ply debate, but as John suggest, you can't beat the look of them - form over function .
I think the Firestones seem to be the popular way to go, and they're not much more expensive than the US Royals. Would love to see some pics of the Royals mounted though (I did see some on wheels in the gallery by doing a 'whitewall' search, but would like to see more).
Many years ago I used to drive a 57 chevy as my daily with bias ply tyres... Turning was a breeze with them compared to radials
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Trylon Samba Member
Joined: August 16, 2019 Posts: 4853 Location: Connecticut
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Posted: Mon Oct 21, 2019 10:53 am Post subject: Re: Whitewalls - Firestones or US Royals? |
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Looking into lowlight period correct whitewalls as it seems my tires are a bit crusty. John Moxon suggested that I might resurrect this discussion.
Any new insights to share since this thread got buried? As far as that goes, I am not even sure about what size tire and how wide the whitewall should be.
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dclaxon Samba Member
Joined: April 01, 2012 Posts: 37 Location: Illinois
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Posted: Mon Oct 21, 2019 11:22 am Post subject: Re: Whitewalls - Firestones or US Royals? |
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Trylon wrote: |
Looking into lowlight period correct whitewalls as it seems my tires are a bit crusty. John Moxon suggested that I might resurrect this discussion.
Any new insights to share since this thread got buried? As far as that goes, I am not even sure about what size tire and how wide the whitewall should be.
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I had to put new tires on my '71 Vert just a few weeks ago, and I saw some 165/15s on one of the on-line tire shops, (I think it was Coker, but don't remember for sure) that they claimed have the look of bias ply.
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laneven28 Samba Member
Joined: January 09, 2007 Posts: 312 Location: Cedar Hills, Utah
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Posted: Mon Oct 21, 2019 11:22 am Post subject: Re: Whitewalls - Firestones or US Royals? |
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I struggled with this decision a few years ago when buying tires for my 56 beetle. I ended up with bias ply US Royals because I thought the whitewall on the Firestones looked too wide, and the US Royal was closer to original. What I didn't know when I bought them was just how poorly bias tires handle. They're terrible, and Ill never buy them again.
I recently bought tires for a 58 bamboo lowlight Im restoring and went with Coker whitewall radials. Haven't drove on them yet, but fingers crossed they handle much better than the bias plys.
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Trylon Samba Member
Joined: August 16, 2019 Posts: 4853 Location: Connecticut
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Posted: Mon Oct 21, 2019 5:07 pm Post subject: Re: Whitewalls - Firestones or US Royals? |
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dclaxon wrote: |
Trylon wrote: |
Looking into lowlight period correct whitewalls as it seems my tires are a bit crusty. John Moxon suggested that I might resurrect this discussion.
Any new insights to share since this thread got buried? As far as that goes, I am not even sure about what size tire and how wide the whitewall should be.
Thanks! |
I had to put new tires on my '71 Vert just a few weeks ago, and I saw some 165/15s on one of the on-line tire shops, (I think it was Coker, but don't remember for sure) that they claimed have the look of bias ply.
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Yes, I just found the Coker radials with bias look. Pretty sweet! |
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Trylon Samba Member
Joined: August 16, 2019 Posts: 4853 Location: Connecticut
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Posted: Mon Oct 21, 2019 5:09 pm Post subject: Re: Whitewalls - Firestones or US Royals? |
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laneven28 wrote: |
I struggled with this decision a few years ago when buying tires for my 56 beetle. I ended up with bias ply US Royals because I thought the whitewall on the Firestones looked too wide, and the US Royal was closer to original. What I didn't know when I bought them was just how poorly bias tires handle. They're terrible, and Ill never buy them again.
I recently bought tires for a 58 bamboo lowlight Im restoring and went with Coker whitewall radials. Haven't drove on them yet, but fingers crossed they handle much better than the bias plys.
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Your bug and pic look hyper real! Thanks for the info. |
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