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twinfallsbass
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PostPosted: Sat Oct 24, 2009 3:48 pm    Post subject: Where to buy Brake Backing Plates or adjuster retainers? Reply with quote

Started rebuilding my brakes and had to stop because the retainers for the star adjusters were missing from both front backing plates. They are riveted so I thought I would just go online and find them. Searched for well over an hour and could not find them or the brake baking plates. I looked on all the usual sites: CIP, WW, EIS, even BFY ( not that I would deal with BFY again ) with no success; I even searched here and nothing. It seems these sites only sell backing plates for beetles, later buses or disk brake conversions. Does anyone know where I can buy what I need? Thanks
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PostPosted: Sat Oct 24, 2009 3:51 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Try the used parts yards like Blair and sons... in Phoenix.
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PostPosted: Sat Oct 24, 2009 3:59 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thanks, i'll give them a call on Monday. Any reason these are not for sale new on any of the websites I have visited?
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PostPosted: Sat Oct 24, 2009 4:02 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I had one broken off on the front of my '63 and I had to get a used one from another web site member.

I have seen splitpile post that he has used pieces cut off a metal springy rake before.
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PostPosted: Sat Oct 24, 2009 4:11 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

EverettB wrote:
I had one broken off on the front of my '63 and I had to get a used one from another web site member.

I have seen splitpile post that he has used pieces cut off a metal springy rake before.


Thanks for the info, went to his site with no results found. Why is it that we have to buy these used, it's a common brake component.


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PostPosted: Sat Oct 24, 2009 7:14 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

If you can shoot me a picture of what you're looking for, I may have one or two layin' around.
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PostPosted: Sat Oct 24, 2009 7:55 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I recall a recent thread where splitpile and campingbox wrote about making those springs easily with readily available materials. The metal rake was one of them. I suck at searching, but with diligence I am sure the thread could be found. I have never run into this problem (lucky, I guess) but it seems to me they should be simple to make.
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PostPosted: Sat Oct 24, 2009 8:18 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Made a spring from a rake post:
http://www.thesamba.com/vw/forum/viewtopic.php?p=3613797#3613797
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PostPosted: Sat Oct 24, 2009 10:35 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Metal rake material is good and so is metal from steel bandings from shipping boxes.
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PostPosted: Sat Oct 24, 2009 11:41 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

x2 on the steel banding material.

I went to Home Depot and found long pieces of steel banding on the floor in the lumber aisle. I broke off a small piece and took it home. About half an hour of hacksawing, filing, and hammering later I had a reasonable copy of the brake star spring. I pop-riveted it on to the backing plate and was good to go.

It WOULD be easier if someone would just sell the things though.
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PostPosted: Sun Oct 25, 2009 10:16 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Here is a picture of my backing plate, sorry for the poor quality picture:


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PostPosted: Sun Oct 25, 2009 12:51 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Iv'e never done this but I do know banding material vs spring rake very well. I would use the rake vs the band, the band stuff would work but it is not made of very springlike material compared to the rake. Learnt all that making shivs in the pen. Rolling Eyes
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PostPosted: Mon Oct 26, 2009 11:00 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

There are a ton of ways to skin a cat but what I do now is steal the bits from Baywindow backing plates. Twisted Evil
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PostPosted: Tue Dec 18, 2012 5:08 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Trying to use the rake pieces to fab a star retainer clip. The rake pieces keep snapping. Taking a break but I am starting to get desperate as I need to drive to work day after tomorrow. Any suggestions, what tools did u guys use to get the correct radius, would heating the piece help.
Really wish someone would repop these.

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PostPosted: Wed Dec 19, 2012 12:24 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

There was a thread on here that somebody used steel banding as a suitable replacement. Ive never tried it yet but I have collected a few strips of it. Not sure if it would retain the springyness after its bent into shape.
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PostPosted: Wed Dec 19, 2012 9:50 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Have some NOS barndoor ones:
http://www.thesamba.com/vw/classifieds/detail.php?id=559959

They are different than the later 55-63 bus version, or the 1 ton version.

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These are the same as used on the back of some early beetles:

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I wish I had found bags of the later ones.
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PostPosted: Wed Dec 19, 2012 2:19 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thanks Clara. Unfortunately I have a 66. I finished the front brakes with the help of some heat. It's not pretty tho. Would love to find a couple used ones for the rear.
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PostPosted: Wed May 08, 2013 9:36 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Bringing this back to life because it seems I have the same problem and hoping there might be newish answers. And because I don't fully understand how the rake is formed into the holder.

To be specific, the adjustment holder is what I'm missing, three of them on the right side so that when I adjust the brakes they slowly go out of adjustment each time I press the brakes.


Also, somehow, my brake pedal started pressing against the right side of the hole in the floor, but I haven't gotten under there to see why yet, so maybe I'll know the answer to that in a few hours.

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EDIT: Some further google-fu and a few calls revealed that there is a new replacement part, you just have to special order it...apparently...

The OEM part number is this:
211-609-485/B

The reproduction part number is this:
J19481

So far, Bus Depot in the US and Just Kampers in the UK are the only ones I've found that sell them. Woo...I kind of answered my own question. Kinda.
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