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PostPosted: Sun May 24, 2020 7:57 am    Post subject: Re: pop top roof rack owners Reply with quote

shagginwagon83 wrote:
Sorry for the broken link!

But yeah so what i bought was

3x pairs of CVC artificial brackets.
3x pairs lf Yakima 1A towers
3x round Yakima bars. I think around 54-60"

With that extra weight i bought the Gowesty Hd strut assist kit.


That sounds like my progression...it continued until it progressed to a high top...
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PostPosted: Sun May 24, 2020 7:20 am    Post subject: Re: pop top roof rack owners Reply with quote

Sorry for the broken link!

But yeah so what i bought was

3x pairs of CVC artificial brackets.
3x pairs lf Yakima 1A towers
3x round Yakima bars. I think around 54-60"

With that extra weight i bought the Gowesty Hd strut assist kit.
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PostPosted: Sun May 24, 2020 6:51 am    Post subject: Re: pop top roof rack owners Reply with quote

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YosemiteBound wrote:
RoryGirl wrote:
https://campervanculture.com/shop/cvc-pair-of-west...m-version/


2) What is this roof system? So confused. Does anyone use it? It's flat and square.... would a skybox even mount on it? For those that use it do you mount three bars across or two? Why is it so cheap haha.


Those are just the "artificial gutters" that your rack mounts attach to. You'll need 1 pair for each crossbar. Not so cheap now, eh Wink


Two bars with feet is $281 which is comparable to 4 Yakima 1A rain gutter towers , $199 or so and two bars...are they $40 each? Then add the artificial rain gutters.
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PostPosted: Sat May 23, 2020 11:51 pm    Post subject: Re: pop top roof rack owners Reply with quote

YosemiteBound wrote:
RoryGirl wrote:
https://campervanculture.com/shop/cvc-pair-of-west...m-version/


2) What is this roof system? So confused. Does anyone use it? It's flat and square.... would a skybox even mount on it? For those that use it do you mount three bars across or two? Why is it so cheap haha.


Those are just the "artificial gutters" that your rack mounts attach to. You'll need 1 pair for each crossbar. Not so cheap now, eh Wink
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PostPosted: Sat May 23, 2020 11:34 pm    Post subject: Re: pop top roof rack owners Reply with quote

YosemiteBound wrote:
Guys,

Need some help. Just picked up a skybox 18.

Now I need the rack. I have an 85 Westfalia pop top.

I can see (on this thread) that I need three pairs of the Yakima Wide Body Mounts - to drill into the pop top.

I also can also see that I need three -at least - 58" long crossbars.

But what I haven't been able to determine is what towers I need to attach to the wide body mounts. Will Q towers work?

Anything else I need (again, all I have is a pop top and a skybox).

Thanks so much!


Q towers may work on a tin top with the right clips but I can't imagine they'd work with a pop-top. My guess is that Yakima will only recommend the 1A Raingutter towers.

Two bars will work fine. The Sideloader mounts are also fine (2 bolts, carriage bolt heads are not exposed, slightly cleaner, either alternative works fine).

Skybox 18, Yakima 1A Raingutter towers, two bars on sideloaders...
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Skybox 18, basket, etc. on 4 pairs of sideloaders and 1A Raingutter towers (too heavy)...

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PostPosted: Sat May 23, 2020 8:51 pm    Post subject: Re: pop top roof rack owners Reply with quote

RoryGirl wrote:
https://campervanculture.com/shop/cvc-pair-of-west...m-version/


Okay a few things:

1) Omg this site is so inexpensive. Cheapest truck mirrors I've seen yet. $100 cheaper than cip1.com in fact.

2) What is this roof system? So confused. Does anyone use it? It's flat and square.... would a skybox even mount on it? For those that use it do you mount three bars across or two? Why is it so cheap haha.
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PostPosted: Sat May 23, 2020 8:17 pm    Post subject: Re: pop top roof rack owners Reply with quote

https://campervanculture.com/shop/cvc-pair-of-west...m-version/
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PostPosted: Sat May 23, 2020 8:13 pm    Post subject: Re: pop top roof rack owners Reply with quote

I’m intrigued! But that link doesn’t work.
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PostPosted: Sat May 23, 2020 7:35 pm    Post subject: Re: pop top roof rack owners Reply with quote

1a Yakima towers work great. You can find them on craigslist/facebook.

Also buy these brackets instead of the Yakima ones

https://campervanculture.com/shop/cvc-pair-of-west...on/[/code]
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PostPosted: Sat May 23, 2020 3:51 pm    Post subject: Re: pop top roof rack owners Reply with quote

Guys,

Need some help. Just picked up a skybox 18.

Now I need the rack. I have an 85 Westfalia pop top.

I can see (on this thread) that I need three pairs of the Yakima Wide Body Mounts - to drill into the pop top.

I also can also see that I need three -at least - 58" long crossbars.

But what I haven't been able to determine is what towers I need to attach to the wide body mounts. Will Q towers work?

Anything else I need (again, all I have is a pop top and a skybox).

Thanks so much!
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PostPosted: Tue Sep 09, 2014 4:44 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

You could just put a couple of stainless steel carriage bolts in the holes, too, with nylon washers for water-tightness.
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PostPosted: Tue Sep 09, 2014 4:08 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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I saw a recommendation for Solarez Ding Repair. Is that enough? Or do I need something stronger.


I've used the solar rez to fix two holes in my pop top.

First I used masking tape to back the hole from the inside.

I cut small circles of fiberglass mat to fill in with some structure (I had a larger hole to fill), and then just added a layer of mat and rez while pushing the van in and out of the sun. Sand flush and you're done. My holes were on the top and I plan on painting the top soon so the look was less important then a smooth finish ready for paint.

On a vertical surface I would use Scotch tape, seal the bottom and sides. "Fill"' the pocket with solarrez a little proud and leave it in the sun for 10 minutes. The stuff is magic.
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PostPosted: Tue Sep 09, 2014 2:59 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Right, so the PO installed Yakima Racks and installed fake ARGs. Really it's just some angle iron and it looks bad, but worked.

So then I install the pop top shocks and have remove the rear set of them. Also the box I have will only span 36", so I'd have to move at least one pair any way...

I'm tempted to complete replace them with Yakima ARGs. Put one back behind the strut (possibly using the rearmost existing hole) and then move the middle one to be centered 36" foreword of that (after the bump). That way I have an option of adding a third up front later on.

Which leaves the holes. Crying or Very sad

I saw a recommendation for Solarez Ding Repair. Is that enough? Or do I need something stronger.

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Anyone see problems with the plan?
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PostPosted: Sun Jun 26, 2011 8:27 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

stclair411 wrote:
"The placement (height) of the ARGs is determined by the location of JB's shock bolt so there is a good chance that your existing ARG in the front won't be aligned with the other ones."

Yeah, I figure the odds of that front ARG being at the right height are pretty slim. I'll have to either move it, and fill 4 holes, or not share an ARG mounting hole with the shocks and drill 1 extra hole. Something to ponder.


I personally don't think the dedicated bolt for the JB strut looks all that bad, especially compared to 4 patched holes if you repositioned your existing ARG.
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PostPosted: Thu Jun 23, 2011 1:01 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thanks man. That's what I was looking for. I think I will have to mount my rear ARG further back to get the correct placement. Unless I want to remove/replace the front, or space them too closely. Funny how one thing can effect so many others. Not that the PO's placement of that front ARG was wrong, just makes the decision for me. I'll be sure to trim the bolt ends so that the Bombay strut will have clearance. Thanks for the advice guys.
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PostPosted: Wed Jun 22, 2011 11:29 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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PostPosted: Wed Jun 22, 2011 5:01 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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The key is trimming your rack mounting bolts. I did not and that's where I had the prolem. If you trim your bolts down, there shouldn't be a conflict with the shocks.


yes, I had to do the same
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PostPosted: Wed Jun 22, 2011 4:46 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

The key is trimming your rack mounting bolts. I did not and that's where I had the prolem. If you trim your bolts down, there shouldn't be a conflict with the shocks.
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PostPosted: Wed Jun 22, 2011 4:25 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thanks man. I think your set up is what I will end up with. Looks fine.
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PostPosted: Wed Jun 22, 2011 4:16 pm    Post subject: racks Reply with quote

Just thought I'd add my set up for your consideration...

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I installed my racks last year before I bought the shocks from JB. I had cut all the bolts for the ARG's when I installed them to be flush with the nuts. When I installed the shocks my only concern was clearance for the bolts. No worries...it works fine.

The funny thing is...now that I'm all set up with racks...I don't see myself using them very much. They are too high for ease of use. Down the road when the kids are not interested, they will be great for two kayaks. I could have held off for a few years. I set up my little trailer with the roof box and yak racks. It's easier to load/unload.

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