61-64 Convertible thread and Registry

[type117]

Nice!
Show us the car when finished with the new top and rims.
May we know the chassis and motor number?
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1962 type 117 (black beetle sunroof)
1962 type 151 (blue beetle convertible)
1974 type 265 (Baywindow double cab)

[bugmandave]

[VOLKSWAGNUT]

^ very nice indeed.

Ill be acquiring a BC for my 61 Convertible soon .. .. Even though its far from original now.. and will be far from original later.. it will be the last VW I rebuild ... so feel its worth it to have..

The 58-64 convertibles are the cream of the Beetle crop .. IMO ...

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aka Ken {o\!/o}
Its your vehicle- stop askin' for approval-do what YOU like for cryin' out loud
Better to roll em' how you want and wear em' out-than lettin' em' rot out
Its about the going not the showing
Rebuilt to drive not decorate
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[wagenbits]

Wondering if anyone has documented wheel rim color and/or paint code for
a 1962 Convertible in L1009 Yukon Yellow.
Talking with different wheel paint authorities, Moss Green and Olive have been
mentioned. Does anyone have a reference as to what is correct?

The wheels on Mary Jane's car were spray bombed black over some shade of pea green color.
Got down through the black to find that all the pea green was sanded off the
outer rim flange down to the wheel center seam, before they got spray bombed black, so the previoous intention to use them in original paint is not possible.

Hoping to get the right color identified and paint the wheels, as the Cabbie is
otherwise a finished driver.

[bugmandave]

[VOLKSWAGNUT]

[bugmandave]

Your original rims are probably the correct colors. Black outer rim is correct on a convertible and the green center disc is most likely going to be the correct accent color. If all the date stamps are correct I would bet they are original. Karmann produced convertibles as well Karmann Ghias came factory equipped with beauty rings which is why the outer rims were painted black. No need to paint them in a color since they are mostly covered up. This is my '63 vert wheel in original paint, cadmium red /black on a poppy red car. Hope this helps.

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'63 Karmann Cabriolet L456 Rubin (Ruby Red)
'71 Westfalia campmobile tourist delivery
January '59 SWR panel
'63 Karmann Cabriolet L54 Poppy Red

[theastronaut]

A black outer rim should be correct.

Another difference I recently learned about is that vert wheels were masked differently than sedan wheels. The center color extended out onto the rim, and the mask line was under the trim ring so that the center color shows on the rim inside of the trim ring, and black only shows outside of the trim ring.


As seen on this original paint wheel.

While we're on the subject of Cadmium Red vert wheels, this is a really nice example I came across on Facebook.

Been doing my homework on wheel colors and paint variations since my '63 I posted earlier is going back to stock wheels and suspension. I may do a second set of 356 wheels with Vredestein Sprint Classic tires. Also bought a Judson supercharger for it.

[bugmandave]

I will confirm the paint line does split under the chrome rings, the original paint rim I showed above is the same way. Also, the ruby vert with cadmium rims above was also mine but has since been sold. My current one is poppy red.
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'63 Karmann Cabriolet L456 Rubin (Ruby Red)
'71 Westfalia campmobile tourist delivery
January '59 SWR panel
'63 Karmann Cabriolet L54 Poppy Red

[VOLKSWAGNUT]

Great information gentlemen... Masking under the ring makes perfect ease of production sense especially since the Sedans of the era had full black wheels.

John.... I thought you sold that red 63?

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aka Ken {o\!/o}
Its your vehicle- stop askin' for approval-do what YOU like for cryin' out loud
Better to roll em' how you want and wear em' out-than lettin' em' rot out
Its about the going not the showing
Rebuilt to drive not decorate
WANTED: Local Eatin' Joints, Triple D for TheSamba contributions here http://www.thesamba.com/vw/forum/viewtopic.php?t=570510
Search "VOLKSWAGNUT" on YouTube since you cant watch a "certain" BELT change video round here
Usually and often edited

[wagenbits]

Convertible wheel disc color for 1962 L 1009 Yukon Yellow?

Thank you BUGMANDAVE, THEASTRONAUT, AND VOLKSWAGENUT for the
confirmations of the correct, original color line of demarcation for Convertible wheeels. All is clear.

Who has dealership paint color binders, Berater, Parts Lists or best, KARMANN documentaion naming the Rim color?

Pics of the original color found on all four (spare MIA) 10/61 wheels:

[wagenbits]

1962 L 1009 Yukon Yellow Convertible

VIN 4 250 4xx, built Novermber, 1961

Body No. 911
Interestingly, and in confirmation of earlier Body Match Number posts;
page 4, 9th post, 3rd pic of this thread shows the red 1967 with Body No. 944.

Engine No. 6220897

Sold at Capitol Sales, Boise ID
Original Owner Mary Jane's (really, truly) personal conveyance from 16 January 1962 through April 2020.
She's a plain Jane, radio delete blockoff, no accessory piece of KARMANN.

Light green canvas top and boot
Very light green white seat vinyl
Very light green white and light green door panels
Light green shift lever and E-brake handle
Green floormats
Light green rim discs, black outer lips
Rims sometime later spray-bombed black all over, after the lips were sanded
Carpet has been very incorrectly replaced

[theastronaut]

[hotchkiss_m201]

Just been following this thread and I'm surprised to find about the colours of the rims, always assumed they were the same as the sedans black/white. I've got a Poppy Red 1964 convertible, so would my rims have been Cadmium Red centers?

[bugmandave]

[hotchkiss_m201]

Thanks bugmandave, slightly gutted that they changed that on the 64 model year. One thing that's puzzled me about my 64 is the headliner, it's cloth and as far as I'm aware they'd already switched to vinyl?

[bugmandave]

[dougallison]

So I just purchased a 1962 convertible in yukon yellow vin 4620960 with the OG 40HP and still 6v. I've had other early bugs, but no convertibles. Trying to find out more about these and what all is different. The previous owner has had it since 1995. Previous to that, it looks like that owner purchased it in 1991, put in new pans and did a light refresh and outside respray. I there seems to be some type of square box rails on the underside with rust issues, but nothing else that I've found. Don't have pictures of that yet, but here are some of the car.

[dougallison]

So apparently the coach Build# is 5338, built March 1962.

[hitest]

Two YY '62s on one page of this thread? A seldom-seen beautiful color.

Wagenbits- having slobbered on your car in person- it's great to see it here.

I have a theory regarding black outer rims. Since Karmann intentionally scratched every convertible rim on their cars (spares included), it makes good sense they sprayed black under there. Kind of a preemptive strike and apology combo.
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