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plysaker Samba Member
Joined: August 20, 2007 Posts: 95 Location: EmeraldCity
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Posted: Thu Jun 06, 2013 5:09 pm Post subject: Tachometer SCORE! 86 Scirocco 8k Tach! |
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So I need a Tach. My ASI is a lowly L, with a actual, working analog clock. This is not my style. I need a tach.
$160 for later cluster. Meh.
PicknPull Score! Period correct VDO Tach 8k! woot!
I've check the few posts about sliding one of these in. thanks for that, those posts are what inspired me.
please chime in on what it will take to carefully slide my clock and fuel and Temp out, and slide this bad-boy in. Sorry for the fnuzzy pic.
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syncrodoka Samba Member
Joined: December 27, 2005 Posts: 12005 Location: Santa Cruz, CA
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Posted: Thu Jun 06, 2013 5:22 pm Post subject: |
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8k tach- score! I have a 7k that i yanked out of a jetta and i prefer it over the stock one.
There are a bunch of 8mm nuts on the back of the tach assembly that need to be removed from behind the blue cluster ribbon. The gas and temp gauge are bolted in with those nuts. There are 4 screws that hold the tach assembly to the cluster assembly.
You need to carefully pry the plastic catch that holds the plug from the ribbon to the tach with a small tool just enough to pull the plug out with another small pick tool.
It is a simple procedure once you get into it. Be very careful with the blue instrument ribbon. |
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chazz79 Samba Member
Joined: August 15, 2008 Posts: 2268 Location: ohio
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Posted: Thu Jun 06, 2013 7:03 pm Post subject: |
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You guys have conversions or something? The wbx cuts fuel at 5500 so anything above that is pointless IMO. I just replaced my 91 cluster in order to get my oil warning system back in order(someone made a mess of it). I got a way better deal than 160 on mine. _________________ One day as a lion, or a lifetime as lamb
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syncrodoka Samba Member
Joined: December 27, 2005 Posts: 12005 Location: Santa Cruz, CA
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Posted: Thu Jun 06, 2013 7:18 pm Post subject: |
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I do have a conversion that spins over 6k. The kaboom section of the tach for the WBX is meaningless to me and i like how it matches the speedo better. |
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r39o Samba Polizei
Joined: May 18, 2005 Posts: 9800 Location: San Diego
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Posted: Thu Jun 06, 2013 8:30 pm Post subject: |
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There will be a little gap at the bottom....no big deal.
The conversion is as simple as it gets.
Take the old tach away from the rear plastic.
Do the same for you new tach.
Put new tach in old plastic.
DONE....
I like my 7K tach, too... _________________ "Use the SEARCH, Luke" But first visit the Vanagon FAQ!
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Syncroincity Samba Member
Joined: April 15, 2007 Posts: 1557 Location: New York City
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Posted: Thu Jun 06, 2013 9:06 pm Post subject: |
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I put a diesel Jetta tach into my cluster, same procedure... as stated above, the brass nuts on the back get attached to the ribbon cable. The biggest thing here is to work carefully and slowly, this stuff is brittle. Don't overtighten the mount screws, and be very careful putting the big contact plug back onto the ribbon, the traces tend to peel off the blue plastic.
Have a tube of superglue, and a tube of 2-part plastic weld epoxy on hand to deal with any breakage you might experience.
I also painted my needles with bright orange paint, makes them more visible. _________________ '86 Syncro CHC Top AAZ Turbodiesel
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syncrodoka Samba Member
Joined: December 27, 2005 Posts: 12005 Location: Santa Cruz, CA
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Posted: Thu Jun 06, 2013 9:12 pm Post subject: |
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There is a slight gap at the bottom because it is flat at the bottom not rounded like the vanagon tach. It is not really noticeable and if it ever bothers me I can have a new one printed up but I really dislike that vendors typically print their business name on the face.
If I could get my mitts on a 8K tach at the junkyard I would pick it up.
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plysaker Samba Member
Joined: August 20, 2007 Posts: 95 Location: EmeraldCity
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Posted: Fri Jun 07, 2013 11:52 am Post subject: |
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Thanks guys! I am cool with the gap, I am just stoked to not have to spend BIG $$$ to buy a 84 wolfie tach ( If I could get one.)
1. I have a clock, no resident tach. Still carefully remove, plug and play?
2. I'm a BOSTIG BROTHER. 5k is my special tourquey spot, I'm told.
3. I got the Tach Mod from Bostig, but have read this will actually work without.
I was sad for the RED 86 'rocco she was a beauty, and a dream car of mine at one time. I and when they bring the NEW scirocco to the states I will be trading in my grey GTI for one ASAP.
SO BAD
http://www.volkswagen.co.uk/new/scirocco/home _________________ "Darth Blue" 1985 ASI Bostig Reemo-falia! More than the Sum of His Parts, Which are many. Curently on the rack, getting a new heart. From Ford.
"Snowball" White 1967 Franken-Fastback, a survivor's story. At least 3 cars donated to the project. |
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danfromsyr Samba Member
Joined: March 01, 2004 Posts: 15141 Location: Syracuse, NY
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Posted: Fri Jun 07, 2013 12:21 pm Post subject: |
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it'sd not going to be plug and play at all if you don't have am OEM tach.
1st you'll need to know if your harness has a tach signal wire run to the front dash or you'll have to run a new one.
2nd the white plastic of the housing doesn't fit the vanagon housing. you'll have to source a vanagon tach black housing (to be plug n play) or you'll have to get creative mounting your white tach to the vanagon housing.
3rd never mind what they said with the blue ribbon cable. it won't have the connections to service a tach. the clock only needed 12v.
was your cluster a H2o or aircooled van to begin with? if H2o then you'll be ok with the coolant gauge voltage (5v) if was aircooled and you are also adding a coolant gauge you'll need to supply that with a regulated 5v power source.
personally i see little use for RPMs above 5k. the engine begins to loose power there anyways.. then my butt tells me to shift.
I like the smaller scale, wider display of the lower RPM tach.. but I only run a jetta I4 w/6k redline anyways.
it's like I prefer my 85mph speedo vs the 100mph or greater speedos..
I have alot of sweep for regular driving speeds there's space from 30 to 35 to 40 mph for those sensative small towns... and 85mph+ well i don't need a speedo to tell me anything then anyways..
but to each they're own.. just wanted to chime in it's not going to be plug and play and you will need to have plastic repair and solder materials on hand for the upgrade. _________________
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plysaker Samba Member
Joined: August 20, 2007 Posts: 95 Location: EmeraldCity
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Posted: Fri Jul 12, 2013 9:12 pm Post subject: |
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and your right. this thing is not plug and play
looks like the ribbon will go over the white tach but the coolent is in wrong spot.
looks like I need a 88+ cluster after all. unless anyone has any ideas?
[/img] _________________ "Darth Blue" 1985 ASI Bostig Reemo-falia! More than the Sum of His Parts, Which are many. Curently on the rack, getting a new heart. From Ford.
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crazyvwvanman Samba Member
Joined: January 28, 2008 Posts: 9915 Location: Orbiting San Diego
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Posted: Fri Jul 12, 2013 9:33 pm Post subject: |
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You can use a complete tach cluster from 84+ Vanagon. The 7K tach will fit then.
Mark
plysaker wrote: |
and your right. this thing is not plug and play
looks like the ribbon will go over the white tach but the coolent is in wrong spot.
looks like I need a 88+ cluster after all. unless anyone has any ideas?
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plysaker Samba Member
Joined: August 20, 2007 Posts: 95 Location: EmeraldCity
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Posted: Fri Jul 12, 2013 9:35 pm Post subject: |
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ya. xcept ppl ask freaking 400 bucks for them, shoot! _________________ "Darth Blue" 1985 ASI Bostig Reemo-falia! More than the Sum of His Parts, Which are many. Curently on the rack, getting a new heart. From Ford.
"Snowball" White 1967 Franken-Fastback, a survivor's story. At least 3 cars donated to the project. |
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crazyvwvanman Samba Member
Joined: January 28, 2008 Posts: 9915 Location: Orbiting San Diego
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Posted: Fri Jul 12, 2013 9:43 pm Post subject: |
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Where are you located? The asking prices of tach clusters have gone up but you can find one for a lot less than that. You can transfer your existing speedo to it and thus can buy one without a speedo if you find one available with it removed.
Mark
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ya. xcept ppl ask freaking 400 bucks for them, shoot! |
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plysaker Samba Member
Joined: August 20, 2007 Posts: 95 Location: EmeraldCity
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Posted: Fri Jul 12, 2013 9:48 pm Post subject: |
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seattle. yes, I can buy one that is totally non-op. prefer that, at this point. my conversion has run out of funding. _________________ "Darth Blue" 1985 ASI Bostig Reemo-falia! More than the Sum of His Parts, Which are many. Curently on the rack, getting a new heart. From Ford.
"Snowball" White 1967 Franken-Fastback, a survivor's story. At least 3 cars donated to the project. |
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Bercilak Samba Member
Joined: August 17, 2009 Posts: 391
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Posted: Fri Jul 12, 2013 10:19 pm Post subject: |
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plysaker wrote: |
ya. xcept ppl ask freaking 400 bucks for them, shoot! |
I obviously need to start hitting the junkyards again, since the last one I sold was about $80. I saw them (2 years ago maybe, but it will be no different now) around 1 p/2 mo. or so. |
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