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Chris Paterson Samba Member
Joined: February 21, 2010 Posts: 1068 Location: Newbury Park, CA
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Posted: Mon Feb 14, 2011 3:27 pm Post subject: CV Clearancing Swing Pan for IRS Conversion |
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Hey guys. I'm not an offroader but I knew you guys would know the answer. I've upgraded my swing axle pan to IRS by welding in the pivots with a jig. I don't have an IRS transaxle yet. I'm at the point in my project where I'm going to go and get the pan sandblasted and powdercoated. I've read that you have to clearance the swing axle frame horns to accept the CV joints off the irs transaxle. Without a transmission to bolt up can someone tell me where (measurements to the center point) and how deep I need to clear for some 100mm Bus CV's?
I do have my old swing axle transmission, can I use that to know where the axles will come out? I also bought some 4.25 ID steel tubing to cut a piece out and weld into the framehorn. Any help would be much appreciated! Also I think this will be a good post once some answers come along, since there isn't any info on the samba that I can find. _________________ - Chris
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kbwakesk8 Samba Member
Joined: December 08, 2005 Posts: 1499 Location: Hacienda Heights CA
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Posted: Mon Feb 14, 2011 4:38 pm Post subject: |
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i don't think you have to. but all my baja' s a had 002 bus boxes. |
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Chris Paterson Samba Member
Joined: February 21, 2010 Posts: 1068 Location: Newbury Park, CA
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Posted: Mon Feb 14, 2011 4:41 pm Post subject: |
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kbwakesk8 wrote: |
i don't think you have to. but all my baja' s a had 002 bus boxes. |
I'm pretty sure you do if you have a swing axle pan with a bug IRS transaxle in it. _________________ - Chris
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kbwakesk8 Samba Member
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Posted: Mon Feb 14, 2011 4:45 pm Post subject: |
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i had a 61 pan i converted are you running a stock mounts? |
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Chris Paterson Samba Member
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Posted: Mon Feb 14, 2011 4:49 pm Post subject: |
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kbwakesk8 wrote: |
i had a 61 pan i converted are you running a stock mounts? |
Yeah stock mounts _________________ - Chris
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kbwakesk8 Samba Member
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Chris Paterson Samba Member
Joined: February 21, 2010 Posts: 1068 Location: Newbury Park, CA
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Posted: Mon Feb 14, 2011 5:17 pm Post subject: |
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Hmmm... I haven't heard that... In Hot VW's they did an article on Swing to IRS Conversion (I don't have it with me at the moment) and in the first part they talked about welding in the pivots. Last month I believe, they said that they also need to clearance the frame horns for the CV's. I also found this article http://www.bajaclub.co.uk/PDF_Documents/IRS.PDF that explains the same thing on page 5. _________________ - Chris
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Chris Paterson Samba Member
Joined: February 21, 2010 Posts: 1068 Location: Newbury Park, CA
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Posted: Mon Feb 14, 2011 6:16 pm Post subject: |
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Here's a type1 tranny with bus CV's (pulled from a thread on Kustom Coach Works).
_________________ - Chris
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kbwakesk8 Samba Member
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Posted: Mon Feb 14, 2011 6:49 pm Post subject: |
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never seen that
i have junk irs trans if you want to use on for mock up? |
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Garner Samba Member
Joined: January 19, 2010 Posts: 128 Location: Columbia, MO
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jeff1969 Samba Member
Joined: May 04, 2008 Posts: 69 Location: right in the middle of CA
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Posted: Mon Feb 14, 2011 11:00 pm Post subject: |
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the hot vws article stated 1/2" clearance |
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Chris Paterson Samba Member
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Posted: Tue Feb 15, 2011 11:52 am Post subject: |
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kbwakesk8 wrote: |
never seen that
i have junk irs trans if you want to use on for mock up? |
Thanks man! But, you're a wee bit too far away for me to borrow it _________________ - Chris
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Chris Paterson Samba Member
Joined: February 21, 2010 Posts: 1068 Location: Newbury Park, CA
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Posted: Tue Feb 15, 2011 11:53 am Post subject: |
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Great post! Thanks for the info. I'm hoping I can just put my SA tranny up and mark the center of where the axle comes out and use that... So I noticed in your thread on your swap that you changed the front mount... Is that something I'm going to need to do on mine? It's 63' pan... _________________ - Chris
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Chris Paterson Samba Member
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Posted: Tue Feb 15, 2011 11:55 am Post subject: |
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jeff1969 wrote: |
the hot vws article stated 1/2" clearance |
I just looked at the article you're right. It's for Bug CV's which are smaller in diameter just a bit. So I'm sure if I go just a little deeper it'll be good. But the problem is knowing where exactly to clearance without an IRS tranny for reference. _________________ - Chris
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jeff1969 Samba Member
Joined: May 04, 2008 Posts: 69 Location: right in the middle of CA
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Posted: Tue Feb 15, 2011 5:09 pm Post subject: |
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in the article they did have a irs trans to see where to cut. |
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