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PostPosted: Sat Mar 16, 2013 1:45 pm    Post subject: 3RD brake light Reply with quote

Blue Bay Bus Just found this on Ebay under $50.00 , also has turn signals. Fit's in my 2" hitch just plugs into trailer plug. Also with my tire on back gives the back of van more protection. And I can use it to get to my top rack. Don't you just love LED's all rear bulbs are LED. Very Happy
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http://www.ebay.com/itm/BULLY-2-INCH-HITCH-STEP-RE...231daf2259 They took my best offer. And free shipping. Idea
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PostPosted: Tue Feb 19, 2013 10:48 pm    Post subject: Re: Found one with reverse, left/right signals, brake/runnin Reply with quote

averyo wrote:
Main site: http://www.gorecon.com/products.php?p_cat=27&cname=Mini-LED-Tailgate-Light-Bars
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It came with a flat four connection + an additional wire for reverse.


I came across those lights when I was looking for a light for my bike rack (bikes block the tail lights), but could find no info anywhere on how they were wired, so I went with something else. Now that I know it's a flat-four... it's on my list! Thanks for posting about it. Very Happy
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PostPosted: Tue Feb 19, 2013 8:18 pm    Post subject: Found one with reverse, left/right signals, brake/running Reply with quote

Here is a unit with reverse, left/right signals, brake/running light.
Main site: http://www.gorecon.com/products.php?p_cat=27&cname=Mini-LED-Tailgate-Light-Bars
On Amazon: Make sure you get model Part # 26418CLW (clear) or Part # 26418BKW (smoke) because these are the only models with reverse. http://www.amazon.com/Recon-26418BKW-Mini-Tailgate...n+26418BKW

A little pricey but I went with it. I'll let you know how install goes. It came with a flat four connection + an additional wire for reverse.

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PostPosted: Tue Feb 15, 2011 7:08 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

here is the answer to my email re the OP's link.

"The brake light stripes are approximately a quarter inch wide and come in a7 inch and a 9 7/8 inch lengths. They are in a "D" shaped tube that is abouta quarter inch tall. Shipping to Ontario will be between $10 and $20. Let meknow if you need any additional information. Solomon HarrisCutting Edge Illusions1210 Interior St Suite 2Eugene, OR [email protected]usions.com"

I think that there are many more exconomical options than this expensive unit as so many have mentionned.

I'd like to have the red 3rd brake lite butted on each end with orange signal flashers, all comprised of LED. Going to look around, get some ideas. It will have to be thin because I do not have the open shelf uptop at back but I should be able to fix it right at the top of the top cupboard.

I would like to do it as an increased visibility issue = safety.
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PostPosted: Tue Feb 15, 2011 10:27 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

[quote="climberjohn"]
jmranger wrote:

Thanks to PDXwesty for showing the way on this mod.

(Yes, you need to figure out what wire goes to the brakes when you remove a taillight and gently pull off the wiring plug/harness, but that's part of the fun. It's in Bentley, but I do not have it in front of me now to tell you the page number and wire color.)

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black w/ red stripe goes to the brake lights.
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PostPosted: Tue Feb 15, 2011 10:20 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

jmranger wrote:
Per my invoice, MFG P/N is PL06147, which now links to http://www.jcwhitney.com/auxiliary-50-led-light-bars/p2011775.jcwx

For the flashers, AlanD have a nice trick: add relays to flash the rear side markers. Details in the Samba thread I linked above.

Have fun,

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X2 on this setup. It 's what I have, it mounts fine inside my Westy, and it can be seen easily thru 20% window tint.

Thanks to PDXwesty for showing the way on this mod.

(Yes, you need to figure out what wire goes to the brakes when you remove a taillight and gently pull off the wiring plug/harness, but that's part of the fun. It's in Bentley, but I do not have it in front of me now to tell you the page number and wire color.)

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PostPosted: Tue Feb 15, 2011 3:05 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

In addition to the third brake light, I added a forth brake light. When my trailer hitch
is not being used for my hitch haul.
I plug in this lamp that is wired for the trailer hitch harness. It acts as a forth brake
light as well as a parking lamp.
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I to copied PDXs' third brake light from JC Whitney, it works good as it should.
After having it installed for a few months, I found the exact same led strip at a
local business for around $15. You may want to check out some of your local truck
businesses first. Maybe you'll get lucky and get a deal?
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PostPosted: Mon Feb 14, 2011 10:25 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

How would that bolt up?
I think that would bolt up to the westy shelf but would not work on a GL unless on the outside. When i did mine i looked at the truck light but desided against it because of the low location. Even at the bottom of the window was to low for me.

I used a volvo s70 or s80 led. bright and looks good when off because its clear. Volvo did make one for there wagons that should fit with less cutting.

I would say the 3rd light should be the FIRST upgrade right behind the fuel lines Very Happy

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PostPosted: Mon Feb 14, 2011 9:36 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thanks-- I hadn't noticed the comments about the turn signals when I read that thread this morning, nor the other link that went right to the one you bought. Rolling Eyes

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PostPosted: Mon Feb 14, 2011 9:27 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Per my invoice, MFG P/N is PL06147, which now links to http://www.jcwhitney.com/auxiliary-50-led-light-bars/p2011775.jcwx

For the flashers, AlanD have a nice trick: add relays to flash the rear side markers. Details in the Samba thread I linked above.

Have fun,

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PostPosted: Mon Feb 14, 2011 9:16 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

jmranger wrote:
Susie,

Your call, but I personally hate vehicles with flashers somehow integrated in the central braking light. I find that setup way confusing, since my brain associates any bit of red light coming from that area as a braking indication.

Before proceeding, I'd encourage you to read Wikipedia on this topic: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Automotive_lighting#Centre_High_Mount_Stop_Lamp_.28CHMSL.29
And no, I didn't contribute to that article Smile

For my van, I shamelessly copied PDXWesty setup, described here: http://www.thesamba.com/vw/forum/viewtopic.php?t=285490

Enjoy,

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yeah I like pdx's too-- the link just leads me to JCWhitney's home page-- haven't found the exact light you guys have yet...
The original light I posted about comes in a clear or smoke cover in which you can get amber turn lights...

I know what you're saying about the red turn lights... I will probably go with just a flat red bar for the third light.



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PostPosted: Mon Feb 14, 2011 9:09 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Susie,

Your call, but I personally hate vehicles with flashers somehow integrated in the central braking light. I find that setup way confusing, since my brain associates any bit of red light coming from that area as a braking indication.

Before proceeding, I'd encourage you to read Wikipedia on this topic: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Automotive_lighting#Centre_High_Mount_Stop_Lamp_.28CHMSL.29
And no, I didn't contribute to that article Smile

For my van, I shamelessly copied PDXWesty setup, described here: http://www.thesamba.com/vw/forum/viewtopic.php?t=285490

Enjoy,

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PostPosted: Mon Feb 14, 2011 9:07 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I've been wanting to get one of these for awhile now:

Left half is one turn, right half is the other, works as turn and brakelight. Hard to argue with safety.
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PostPosted: Mon Feb 14, 2011 8:55 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I got one from JC Whitney for like $10 or $15 bucks. It was about 9" and had the capacity to flash left or right (half). The half flashing kinda seems silly once I had it ready to mount, so I just wired it for breaks only.

Once I put on some really good rear bumpers, my rear defense will be complete.

Do a search for 3rd break light.
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PostPosted: Mon Feb 14, 2011 8:01 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

yeah that's what I was thinking-- that's kind of expensive-- that's why I haven't bought one yet-- thanks for the link I'll check it out!

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PostPosted: Mon Feb 14, 2011 7:58 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

James I was thinking much like your idea. LEDs are so all over the place
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PostPosted: Mon Feb 14, 2011 7:11 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

$75 is awfully expensive for that setup.
A little extra fab work yourself and you can save a bunch of money by building one with LED strips from these guys: www.oznium.com

Get a 9.5" red strip for $11.49 and two 4.7" orange strips for $6.99 each. Mount them on some angled aluminum and run wires. That should be less than 1/2 the cost.
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PostPosted: Mon Feb 14, 2011 5:43 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

SL1 wrote:
I got one of these on e-bay
7 1/2 inches long, 24 LED, super bright

http://cgi.ebay.ca/24-LED-Car-Red-Third-Brake-Stop...27adc6b39f

costs $7.98, free shipping


The OP is talking about a 3rd brakelight that also does turn signals.
The link you gave does not look like it has this feature.

To the OP, while it's on the spendy side, this looks like a nice addition. Please post pix ("PPP", a new Samba acronym?) and tell us your install adventures.

IMO, you should get the wider of the two models. A 7" light bar is not very much.

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PostPosted: Mon Feb 14, 2011 5:41 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I used to use a unit meant for motorcycles called a pulsestop. When the brakes were depressed it also flashed both the rear turn signal lights. When someone was tailgaiting you and you tapped the brakes they really took notice. I took the unit off my vanagon because of all the idiots with road rage today!
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PostPosted: Mon Feb 14, 2011 5:27 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

SL1 wrote:
I got one of these on e-bay
7 1/2 inches long, 24 LED, super bright

http://cgi.ebay.ca/24-LED-Car-Red-Third-Brake-Stop...27adc6b39f

costs $7.98, free shipping


that's a great deal-- I was thinking about getting a light with turn signals in it just for additional "bling' as my husband says Wink
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