Bronco tire carrier: Bis repetita ....

VisPacem

Last year I posted an inquiry re Bronco II rear tire carrier:

http://www.thesamba.com/vw/forum/viewtopic.php?t=444930&highlight=bronco+rear+tire+carrier

No response. However at least two members here mentioned said carrier in their posts, one back on 2008, mentioning he would post pictures.
So far nothing.

I am about to drive a bit to acquire one of those mythic Bronco carrier and before driving across the desert I would have loved to get some information, pictures would be great of a Bronco carrier installation.

But after all, it could be that said carrier does not fit and that it was just a dream in the mind of the previous posters.

Anyway thank in advance Cool

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FrankenSubySyncro · Posted: Sat Feb 26, 2011 9:27 pm Post subject:

I just replied to your same post on the syncro list:
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Syncro/photos/album/304292746/pic/list

see pics at the above link

Pathfinders are easier to get in my area. $10 at the pick n pull.
Here is mine:
http://www.flickr.com/photos/subyvanagon/4902692558/in/set-72157624747893200/
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VisPacem · Posted: Sat Feb 26, 2011 9:35 pm Post subject:

r39o · Posted: Sat Feb 26, 2011 9:48 pm Post subject:

noganav · Posted: Sat Feb 26, 2011 10:28 pm Post subject:

Sweet homemade bull bar on the GoWesty bumpers. Any welding required?

I'd love to see Rocky Mountain Westy add something like that to their lineup.

whynotvw · Samba Member Joined: May 04, 2004 Posts: 1322

check this site it has a syncro with bronco tire carrier

http://www.cardomain.com/ride/2278297/1986-volkswagen-vanagon

http://www.cardomain.com/ride/2278297/1986-volkswagen-vanagon

http://www.cardomain.com/ride/2278297/1986-volkswagen-vanagon

VisPacem · Posted: Sat Feb 26, 2011 11:47 pm Post subject:

Escorial Syncro · Posted: Sun Feb 27, 2011 8:24 am Post subject:

Here's what a bronco II carrier looks like on my old syncro.

I liked the pass. side mounting for weight distribution, but I have to say it does get in the way when you are camping and have the van opened up. Same when you are parked on the street trying to unload.

The real finesse and hassle for me was getting the swing geometry right. I had to use spacers on the top hinge so that it would sit correctly on the van. If I had to do it over I'd just make new hinges rather than try to make the aluminum ones that came with the carrier work. I did a bunch of cutting/shaving on the aluminum to makes things work.

The other hard part was building a sub-frame to go inside the D-pillar to support the carrier. Lots of trial and error here. I ended up building a frame with welded in nuts matched up to wholes I drilled in the body. Shocked

Which is another aspect of this carrier that isn't for the faint of heart. Anyway, my little subframe bolted to the rear of the D-pillar, hidden right on the door jamb of the rear hatch, and then I hid another mounting bold right under the cover for the sliding door just forward of the carrier. So the sub frame was securely suspended inside the D-pillar. Really the only way to do it, as otherwise you are trying to hang the whole mess off of the van's sheet metal. Shocked

X2

Also, the carrier stop and securing post is attached to the rear hatch door, so that might not be the most solid of mounting points, but it worked okay on mine.

I customized mine by moving the spare tire mounting so that it was more centered on the van, allowing just enough space for a jerry can mount that I built.

I've got a welder and I enjoy hack engineering, and most importantly, I was't in a hurry. I think these are three factors required to make something like this work. Not the best photos, but hopefully they show the basics...

Image may have been reduced in size. Click image to view fullscreen.

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vanagonjr · Posted: Sun Feb 27, 2011 8:51 am Post subject:

VisPacem · Posted: Sun Feb 27, 2011 10:59 am Post subject:

Escorial ....... Cool

You are Da Man. Thank you very much. Your post is invaluable to me and I do appreciate the details and photos.

Love your van, I wish mine were this exact tint, they really should have made some GreenStar, instead of Blue and whatever ElseStar.
Smile

Thank you very much.
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VisPacem · Last edited by VisPacem on Sun Feb 27, 2011 11:50 am; edited 1 time in total

Well now, **may** I hijack my own thread,actually I would rather say develop my thought process and widen my search Cool

I have reviewed the results in Search regarding, the Pahtfinder and a few others and also the fancy pants custom made offers for millionaires.

Thanks to Escorial's terrific answer and post, I am starting to have serious doubts on the **easy** the installation of a Bronco carrier, which leads to the equation and question:

I need a carrier

- As light and compact as possible

- It can hold only the spare, if it can hold three jerrycans, two bicycles, three hi lift jacks and a crock pot it's ok but not really desirable.

- Carrier swings out, not UP, my wife would never be able to lift the monstruosity Crying or Very sad

- As simple and easy to install

- Not cost 3 million piastres

- Does not require changing the bumper, the steering wheel or the sliding door Laughing

- Does not have to be able to resist going across, djebels, rice paddies or fech fech.

I do apologize if anyone is **indisposed** by this diversion which is only a quest for the easy, simple, and El Cheapo carrier, IF it does exist Embarassed

If it does NOT exist, then here comes the "donut" secured behind, on the back of driver or passenger seat. Crying or Very sad

I tried to be diplomatic and smooth I hope it works Dancing

Thanks in advance
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Escorial Syncro · Posted: Sun Feb 27, 2011 11:46 am Post subject:

FrankenSubySyncro · Posted: Sun Feb 27, 2011 12:50 pm Post subject:

VisPacem · Posted: Sun Feb 27, 2011 12:57 pm Post subject:

VisPacem · Posted: Mon Feb 28, 2011 7:25 am Post subject:

Hello again Franken

Just curiosity. the Heim joints , the 1.75" metal tube, flatbar for mounting tabs and base of post are they absolutely necessary to make the Pathfinder carrier fit or did you install them to improve to have additional capability?
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r39o · Posted: Mon Feb 28, 2011 12:11 pm Post subject:

FYI: Through an acquaintance I can get ready to go and MODIFIED Pathfinder setups with attachments and reinforcement plates for $300. I make nothing on this. He has one ready to go now which I will likely claim. I know he gets them at the Pick A Part. Down here they surely aren't just $10 though. Whatever. He does all the hard work. He should make a bit for his efforts. I am getting lazy or just have too many other things to do than get paid 5 cents and hour for my efforts!
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psych-illogical · Posted: Mon Feb 28, 2011 12:59 pm Post subject:

Another option is the carrier from a Kia Sportage. There was a thread on here a year or two ago where somebody used that one. I didn't bother to go check just now but my recollection is that it was pretty much a bolt on but does still require some kind of reinforcement inside the 'D' pillar.
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joetiger · Posted: Mon Feb 28, 2011 1:15 pm Post subject:

Kia (found this in another thread)

http://mtsoprisventures.shutterfly.com/pictures/73#73
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FrankenSubySyncro · Posted: Mon Feb 28, 2011 3:55 pm Post subject:


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