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Slow Steve Samba Member
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Posted: Mon Mar 21, 2011 9:50 am Post subject: Deluxe vs. Standard |
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After reading a comment from Bill May, I was a little embarrassed myself of not know exactly the difference between a deluxe beetle and a standard. I have heard people claim they have a deluxe and want more $$ for it, but I really didn't see the difference. The only difference I would assume to know is the trim level, chrome for deluxes. Is this correct? Would it say on the title? Is there 100% tell tale signs if you looked at the two side by side? School me on this. _________________ BarryL wrote:
100 years from now when they have reverse atom regeneration attractor technology perfected and in a hand held back yard mechanic's price range, someone will dig up this thread and go, "What were those guys thinking? The whole thing was all there just waiting to be re-atomized. Funny how easily they cut them up back then."
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Ga bug Samba Member
Joined: November 14, 2008 Posts: 475 Location: Albany GA
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Posted: Mon Mar 21, 2011 11:43 am Post subject: |
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Mine is a delux.I think its the add chrome.Pocket in doors.Maybe a
gravel quard.The body's are the same |
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dantrefethen Samba Member
Joined: April 28, 2004 Posts: 729 Location: Boise Idaho
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Posted: Mon Mar 21, 2011 12:01 pm Post subject: |
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The confusion for most comes from the introduction of the Super Beetle in
1971. So then you would have the Super Beetle and all the rest would
be a "standard beetle"
In reality the standard beetle is as described in the thread above.
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61SNRF Samba Member
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Posted: Mon Mar 21, 2011 1:00 pm Post subject: |
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When VW intro'd the Super Beetle, they started calling the old car just "the Bug" in the US. As said, most people call them standards here in the forums.
The real "standard" or basic models were sold in other country's, but never in the US. They had different names depending on which country they were sold in. For example in Germany, it was sold as the "Sparkafer". I think in Canada a different but more basic model was labeled "Custom"(?, someone correct me if I'm wrong) as opposed to "Deluxe"..
I've owned a Dutch '67 "standard", but not sure what it's name was there. It had numerous differences from a US '67, like small 6v GEN, one horn grille on left only, center only headliner, painted window cranks, plain door panels, 40 hp engine, blade bumpers with no guards, one speed non-canceling wipers, no chrome on dash, no script on decklid. There's more, but I've forgotten some of the smaller details. Here is an old picture of it...
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sovereignsamba Banned
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Posted: Mon Mar 21, 2011 1:33 pm Post subject: |
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I like the standard gas gauge set up or lack of one. Reserves rule. |
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bill may Samba Member
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dakdak Samba Member
Joined: March 09, 2009 Posts: 579 Location: Sydney, Australia
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Posted: Tue Mar 22, 2011 2:59 am Post subject: |
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Australian Standards (or Austerity models) offered the lack of the following:
1. No glove box lid.
2. No fuel gauge (just reserve tap).
3. No chrome strip on front boot lid.
4. No chrome strip on running boards.
5. No chrome body side strips (from about '62 to '64, then chrome afterwards).
6. Silver painted blade bumpers.
7. Silver painted hub caps.
8. Centre headlining only.
9. No interior light.
10. No interior dash chrome.
11. Plain single colour painted wheel rims.
11. Black steering wheel and gear knob, but ivory turn indicator and steering column.
12. Plain door panels - no pocket or armrest
13. No rear ashtray
12. Black painted quarter window edges - not chrome. _________________ The great enemy of the truth is very often not the lie - deliberate, contrived and dishonest, but the myth - persistent, persuasive and unrealistic.
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Slow Steve Samba Member
Joined: October 23, 2008 Posts: 715 Location: Midlothian, VA
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Posted: Tue Mar 22, 2011 6:37 am Post subject: |
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Thanks for the info everybody! I thought that deluxes would be the rare one of the two.. due to the name.... wrong! Thanks for the list and links ^^^. Now I have a better idea of what to look for. And now... I want a standard! Join the list right... _________________ BarryL wrote:
100 years from now when they have reverse atom regeneration attractor technology perfected and in a hand held back yard mechanic's price range, someone will dig up this thread and go, "What were those guys thinking? The whole thing was all there just waiting to be re-atomized. Funny how easily they cut them up back then."
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Slow Steve Samba Member
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Posted: Tue Mar 22, 2011 12:29 pm Post subject: |
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Thanks! More good info!
This pic kind of gets me excited, I think it's the simple set up and steering wheel ROCKS!:
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jhicken Samba Member
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Posted: Tue Mar 22, 2011 9:09 pm Post subject: |
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61SNRF wrote: |
I've owned a Dutch '67 "standard",
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Hey, isn't that my old car? Here's what it looked like after I molested it!
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Zundfolge1432 Samba Member
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Posted: Wed Mar 14, 2018 6:50 pm Post subject: Re: Deluxe vs. Standard |
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There is a difference. |
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60ragtop Bonneville Belt Bitch
Joined: March 13, 2006 Posts: 7800 Location: Big Wonderful WYO 82401
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Posted: Wed Mar 14, 2018 7:21 pm Post subject: Re: Deluxe vs. Standard |
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Zundfolge1432 wrote: |
There is a difference. |
1 week shy of 7 years
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I've restored a large number too, but I don't toot my horn quite as loud.
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maybe he just snapped cause his car sucked |
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sb001 Samba Member
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Posted: Wed Mar 14, 2018 8:45 pm Post subject: Re: Deluxe vs. Standard |
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YAAAAAAAAAYYYYYY !!!!!!!!
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glutamodo The Android
Joined: July 13, 2004 Posts: 26323 Location: Douglas, WY
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Posted: Wed Mar 14, 2018 9:24 pm Post subject: Re: Deluxe vs. Standard |
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Yah, Deluxe vs Super. I think it was unfortunate that the non-Supers came to be called Standard. However, 1969 is not exactly a very good example since Supers did not exist at that time. _________________ Andy T.
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Zundfolge1432 Samba Member
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Posted: Thu Mar 15, 2018 5:18 am Post subject: Re: Deluxe vs. Standard |
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60ragtop wrote: |
Zundfolge1432 wrote: |
There is a difference. |
1 week shy of 7 years
Bored are we? Don't you got a torque wrench to calibrate? |
No not bored but it gets old seeing things misidentified on a daily basis. Reposted for benefit of somebody somewhere that was not aware of the difference. I don’t expect it will make a difference, maybe just an obscure factoid to file away in the memory bank. |
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iowegian Samba Curmudgeon
Joined: February 16, 2005 Posts: 9829 Location: Somewhere between Dubuque and Keokuk
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Posted: Thu Mar 15, 2018 8:49 am Post subject: Re: Deluxe vs. Standard |
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Zundfolge1432 wrote: |
60ragtop wrote: |
Zundfolge1432 wrote: |
There is a difference. |
1 week shy of 7 years
Bored are we? Don't you got a torque wrench to calibrate? |
No not bored but it gets old seeing things misidentified on a daily basis. Reposted for benefit of somebody somewhere that was not aware of the difference. I don’t expect it will make a difference, maybe just an obscure factoid to file away in the memory bank. |
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Helfen Samba Member
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Posted: Thu Mar 15, 2018 10:05 am Post subject: Re: Deluxe vs. Standard |
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glutamodo wrote: |
Yah, Deluxe vs Super. I think it was unfortunate that the non-Supers came to be called Standard. However, 1969 is not exactly a very good example since Supers did not exist at that time. |
But Andy, they did have some standard features for the first time, such as no chrome around windows, no chrome strip on the running board, a black out rear vent. They reminded me ( the exception would be smaller engines) in their exterior trim levels of the 1200 Customs which are still 111's ( standards). Wasn't the Super Beetle still called a 113 and it's counterpart called a 111??? 111 is the model designation of a standard. |
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glutamodo The Android
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Posted: Thu Mar 15, 2018 10:18 am Post subject: Re: Deluxe vs. Standard |
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Yes. And No. They sort of went to multiple series numbers, like the 841-113 1111 "Custom", more like a continuation of the "Deluxe" model prior to the introduction of the series 1302-113 and 1303-133 Super Beetles. _________________ Andy T.
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