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PostPosted: Mon Mar 21, 2011 9:50 am    Post subject: Deluxe vs. Standard Reply with quote

After reading a comment from Bill May, I was a little embarrassed myself of not know exactly the difference between a deluxe beetle and a standard. Embarassed I have heard people claim they have a deluxe and want more $$ for it, but I really didn't see the difference. The only difference I would assume to know is the trim level, chrome for deluxes. Is this correct? Would it say on the title? Is there 100% tell tale signs if you looked at the two side by side? School me on this.
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PostPosted: Mon Mar 21, 2011 9:57 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

A Standard is really basic.

This thread about a '66 may explain some things:
http://www.thesamba.com/vw/forum/viewtopic.php?t=336263
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PostPosted: Mon Mar 21, 2011 11:43 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Mine is a delux.I think its the add chrome.Pocket in doors.Maybe a
gravel quard.The body's are the same
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PostPosted: Mon Mar 21, 2011 12:01 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

The confusion for most comes from the introduction of the Super Beetle in
1971. So then you would have the Super Beetle and all the rest would
be a "standard beetle"

In reality the standard beetle is as described in the thread above.

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PostPosted: Mon Mar 21, 2011 1:00 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

When VW intro'd the Super Beetle, they started calling the old car just "the Bug" in the US. As said, most people call them standards here in the forums.
The real "standard" or basic models were sold in other country's, but never in the US. They had different names depending on which country they were sold in. For example in Germany, it was sold as the "Sparkafer". I think in Canada a different but more basic model was labeled "Custom"(?, someone correct me if I'm wrong) as opposed to "Deluxe"..
I've owned a Dutch '67 "standard", but not sure what it's name was there. It had numerous differences from a US '67, like small 6v GEN, one horn grille on left only, center only headliner, painted window cranks, plain door panels, 40 hp engine, blade bumpers with no guards, one speed non-canceling wipers, no chrome on dash, no script on decklid. There's more, but I've forgotten some of the smaller details. Here is an old picture of it...
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PostPosted: Mon Mar 21, 2011 1:33 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I like the standard gas gauge set up or lack of one. Reserves rule.
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PostPosted: Mon Mar 21, 2011 11:02 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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I like the standard gas gauge set up or lack of one. Reserves rule.


true that. 62-67 deluxe had a gas guage. 62-67 standard had a reserve switch like 61 and older deluxe beetle.
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PostPosted: Tue Mar 22, 2011 2:59 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Australian Standards (or Austerity models) offered the lack of the following:

1. No glove box lid.
2. No fuel gauge (just reserve tap).
3. No chrome strip on front boot lid.
4. No chrome strip on running boards.
5. No chrome body side strips (from about '62 to '64, then chrome afterwards).
6. Silver painted blade bumpers.
7. Silver painted hub caps.
8. Centre headlining only.
9. No interior light.
10. No interior dash chrome.
11. Plain single colour painted wheel rims.
11. Black steering wheel and gear knob, but ivory turn indicator and steering column.
12. Plain door panels - no pocket or armrest
13. No rear ashtray
12. Black painted quarter window edges - not chrome.
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PostPosted: Tue Mar 22, 2011 6:37 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thanks for the info everybody! I thought that deluxes would be the rare one of the two.. due to the name.... wrong! Thanks for the list and links ^^^. Now I have a better idea of what to look for. And now... I want a standard! Laughing Join the list right...
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PostPosted: Tue Mar 22, 2011 11:31 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Here is a thread I started to gather as much info on the standard.

http://www.thesamba.com/vw/forum/viewtopic.php?t=444733
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PostPosted: Tue Mar 22, 2011 12:29 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

derluftwagen wrote:
Here is a thread I started to gather as much info on the standard.

http://www.thesamba.com/vw/forum/viewtopic.php?t=444733


Thanks! More good info!

This pic kind of gets me excited, I think it's the simple set up and steering wheel ROCKS!:

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PostPosted: Tue Mar 22, 2011 9:09 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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I've owned a Dutch '67 "standard",
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Hey, isn't that my old car? Here's what it looked like after I molested it! Twisted Evil

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PostPosted: Wed Mar 14, 2018 6:50 pm    Post subject: Re: Deluxe vs. Standard Reply with quote

There is a difference.
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PostPosted: Wed Mar 14, 2018 7:21 pm    Post subject: Re: Deluxe vs. Standard Reply with quote

Zundfolge1432 wrote:
There is a difference.

1 week shy of 7 years Laughing
Bored are we? Don't you got a torque wrench to calibrate?
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PostPosted: Wed Mar 14, 2018 8:45 pm    Post subject: Re: Deluxe vs. Standard Reply with quote

YAAAAAAAAAYYYYYY !!!!!!!!


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PostPosted: Wed Mar 14, 2018 9:24 pm    Post subject: Re: Deluxe vs. Standard Reply with quote

Yah, Deluxe vs Super. I think it was unfortunate that the non-Supers came to be called Standard. However, 1969 is not exactly a very good example since Supers did not exist at that time.
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PostPosted: Thu Mar 15, 2018 5:18 am    Post subject: Re: Deluxe vs. Standard Reply with quote

60ragtop wrote:
Zundfolge1432 wrote:
There is a difference.

1 week shy of 7 years Laughing
Bored are we? Don't you got a torque wrench to calibrate?


No not bored but it gets old seeing things misidentified on a daily basis. Reposted for benefit of somebody somewhere that was not aware of the difference. I don’t expect it will make a difference, maybe just an obscure factoid to file away in the memory bank.
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PostPosted: Thu Mar 15, 2018 8:49 am    Post subject: Re: Deluxe vs. Standard Reply with quote

Zundfolge1432 wrote:
60ragtop wrote:
Zundfolge1432 wrote:
There is a difference.

1 week shy of 7 years Laughing
Bored are we? Don't you got a torque wrench to calibrate?


No not bored but it gets old seeing things misidentified on a daily basis. Reposted for benefit of somebody somewhere that was not aware of the difference. I don’t expect it will make a difference, maybe just an obscure factoid to file away in the memory bank.

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PostPosted: Thu Mar 15, 2018 10:05 am    Post subject: Re: Deluxe vs. Standard Reply with quote

glutamodo wrote:
Yah, Deluxe vs Super. I think it was unfortunate that the non-Supers came to be called Standard. However, 1969 is not exactly a very good example since Supers did not exist at that time.


But Andy, they did have some standard features for the first time, such as no chrome around windows, no chrome strip on the running board, a black out rear vent. They reminded me ( the exception would be smaller engines) in their exterior trim levels of the 1200 Customs which are still 111's ( standards). Wasn't the Super Beetle still called a 113 and it's counterpart called a 111??? 111 is the model designation of a standard.
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PostPosted: Thu Mar 15, 2018 10:18 am    Post subject: Re: Deluxe vs. Standard Reply with quote

Yes. And No. They sort of went to multiple series numbers, like the 841-113 1111 "Custom", more like a continuation of the "Deluxe" model prior to the introduction of the series 1302-113 and 1303-133 Super Beetles.
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