'71-'72 brakes

[60vwnewengland]

I'm going to be doing a major brake job in the near future. However I need a little help. Does anyone have a picture of the insides of the rear drum on the '71-'72 model?

Another question, drums. Is it more economical to resurface existing drums at a machine shop, or to order two new ones? Thoughts?

I'm planning on buying these when I do the job:http://www.aircooled.net/new-bin/viewproductdetail.php?keyword2=BWL0001&cartid=1220201093660430 any other suggestions on products to buy when doing this job?
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[babysnakes]

If the drums still have life in them I would get them turned. My local shop charges $10-15 per. Make sure they mic. them as you don't want unsafe drums.

[60vwnewengland]

[60vwnewengland]

[babysnakes]

Is all that for this bus?

What about rear cylinders? I hope it runs as good as it's gonna stop.

[atmellovw]

Here is a pic of my '72 rear brakes. Note the spreader is different (not sure if this a '72 only thing). The one side of the spreader was originally fastened with a rolled pin and clip. I used a bolt with a cap nut instead because the pin and clip had been replaced/lost at some point. There are more pics in my gallery.

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[nathansnathan]

There's a set of 4 unused stainless brake lines in the classifieds for half that right now.

Do you really need every single part to be new?

Also, ordering that many things from ac.net, they're bound to be out of stock on half of it...could take months.

[busdaddy]

$800 for almost a complete new brake system but no rear cylinders, front calipers or master listed?

Is all that stuff missing or damaged? There's alot of things that are pretty tough and easily re used on your list, can't beat OG parts. And the stainless lines?, nice yes, but the rubber ones work fine too for way less $.
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[60vwnewengland]

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[babysnakes]

[60vwnewengland]

[busdaddy]

[wampe]

So why do you think the bus needs a major brake job anyway?

[60vwnewengland]

[BumbleBus]

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[MaddMatt]

I just did the rear brakes on my 71, and I ran into a really weird problem.

There are to types of rear brake drums under the same vw part number.

The only difference I could find was the max diameter stamped on the outside rim of the drum.

My bus has the stamp MAX DIA 9.968, the more common drum has the stamp, MAX 9.980. The odd thing is that both types of drums have the same part number stamped on them even though there is a significant inner diameter difference.

I attempted to put a new drum on that had the 9.980 stamp and it locked up the wheel. The back plate rubs the 9.980 and the drum was stuck so bad that I had to pound the thing off with a deadblow mallet.

It took me three days of searching but I found a suitable used 9.968 drum through a friend.

It was an odd little quirk. We have 3 really awesome vw shops here in Tucson and not a single one had any knowledge of the 9.968 drum.

Just thought I'd share to save you some hassle if you find your bus has 9.968 drums on it.
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[nathansnathan]

That's more a pic of the top of the shock absorber. Beam rust is at the bottom, where the water sits inside.

[Brionp]

Such a timely forum here for me also. I just last weekend turned the corner after a year and a half of some pretty dirty work and lots of time and effort to get my shit together (literally and figuratively). And am this weekend starting to put stuff back on. So if this thread is still going, I'm doing a 71. and will be starting at the brass T junction, and can send pics if needed. Just a little advice here, find a little stand up buffer. With a buffing wheel on one side and a wire wheel on the other. And almost all of that good old German Steel is salvageable. And it fits. It takes time. And effort. But money saved for other things. Like Konis.

[60vwnewengland]